Hey all of you trans am gurus. I just saw a 91 or 92 Trans am or gta vert. It was green and had the lumbar tan interior. Was the new green and purple that came out the last half of 92 available on the firebird line or was it a standard color. Someone school me on this car since I may need to try and buy it since it was in very good shape and I am sure a rare car. It had the good crosslace wheels. Someone let me know numbers and rarity.

 

If I understand the question correctly, that dark green was a factory color in 1991/1992; however the purple you're talking about was only available on Camaros. And if it's a convertible then it's a Trans Am, not a GTA since no GTA convertibles were made during those years. The car you're talking about seems to match the description of mine; green with tan interior. 1991 saw only 555 TA verts built and 663 were built in 92.

https://www.thirdgen.org/1991-pontiac-firebird

https://www.thirdgen.org/1992-pontiac-firebird

The rarity is why I love my car, I've owned it close to 3 years and the only thing I've seen closest to it on the road was a normal 92 Firebird 'vert at a carshow and a beat up 1992 Trans Am 'vert rotting away in someone's backyard.

Definitely hop on that if you can get it for a good price.

 

YES, the car looks just like yours. I know it has to be a very low number car being a green with tan top and interior car with the lumbar seats and the good gold wheels. Do you know how many they made and is a 91 or 92 rarer and are there any differences. I am glad someone finally posted some info. I was wanting to knwo about what the car was worth before I track them down and start throwing out numbers. It looked to be a 7 out of 10 car so what would it be worth and what would you offer?

 

Well I'm not sure where you'd fine the EXACT production numbers of color combos, etc, but 91 is the rarer year as a whole for the Trans Am convertibles since, like I said, that year saw 555 compared to 663 in '92. The only differences I know of between the 91/92 models consist of a different shade of tan in the 92 interiors and supposedly better build quality. Apparently thirdgens in 1992 saw better/more sealants and insulators, etc, used to help reduce squeaks and rattles in the interior. Also, later 1992 models had a blank plate on the throttle body on tpi engines instead of the words "Tuned Port Injection" along with black valve covers on those engines compared to the silver used before. Those cars are pretty unique since they're among the very last thirdgens built.

As for a TA convertible that's about a 7 out of 10? I'd probably say it's worth $4-5500. I paid $2800 for mine back in summer of '09 but it was far from perfect; clearcoat/paint was shot, had some rust, engine needed new fuel injectors, top was beat up, and a lot of other odds and ends that added up and my car at the moment is probably a 7 out of 10 tops haha.

How I found my car:




How she sits now:








Thanks for giving me an opportunity to ***** out pictures of my car... hahaha

 

Its scary how the car just popped out of the blue and 1991 is 5?? cars and 1992 is 6?? cars for extremely low total production so it has to be less than a hundred made in the green of either year. I remember just a few green 91-92 ta's (non vert) around back in the day and you don't see many third gens period anymore. My black 92Z vert and a late 80s white iroc is all that is left in central Arkansas that I have seen on a consistant basis for the last few years. I figure the car is worth around 4 to 55 comparing it to mine which it will be rarer since they made 1254 of mine which is still extremely rare comparing it to 89 turbo ta's which were 1555. I want one of them as well as an all black 89 or 90 GTA t-top. The 85-90 TA had the best looking nose. I didn't think anything would be as cool as a 70-73 trans am nose but the late 80s was very close. Please post some interior shots of your car and more pictures period since it will boost my drive to obtain the car. I was never a huge green fan but this seems to be like a carrot being dangled in front of me. More pictures and info if you don't mind.

 

It would be my pleasure!







I kinda have a funny story similar to yours about when I bought this car...

When I was looking to buy a thirdgen a few years back, I had little/no intention of specifically finding a convertible, let alone one like mine. I was actually searching for a t-top (a convertible would've simply been a bonus for me) 82-90 thirdgen with a V8 and 5-speed (unless it was a 350 TPI car) since initially I wasn't crazy about the 91-92 refreshed body styles. I was having trouble finding something that fit the picture (with my budget) until one day I accidentally stumbled across a classified thread that was about a year old on this forum for what turned out to be my car. Even though it had a slushbox transmission with the 5 liter TPI, I instantly fell in love with the dark green exterior with the gold mesh wheels and tan top/interior. I thought it was a very tasteful color combination. And in my humble opinion, very few cars can pull off dark green as well as this one. And after researching the production numbers, I just HAD to at least check this car out, despite how far away it was from me. By the way, 5-speed convertibles are VERY rare; I think only about 120 or so TA 'verts were built with 5-speeds in 1991.

Noticing the thread was a year old, I assumed the car was long gone but I figured it couldn't hurt to fire off a PM to the seller and ask. He still had it! And was very flexible on the price, probably because he had trouble selling it (who knows why).

My dad and I drove up from central CT to southern NH to look at the car (about a 3 hour drive) and, even though there was just a little more rust underneath than what I would've liked to see (mostly surface rust so I guess it's not a big deal), we came back up 2 weeks later with a u-haul trailer and brought it home considering what a unique specimen it was that we came across.

I was also surprised to see that my car came with a factory CD player as you can see in the interior shots. Unfortunately it suddenly stopped working less than a year after I bought it but considering it's scarcity, I still have it sitting in my garage with the intention of one day sending it off to get repaired/restored. The car also came with a "Pontiac Excitement" CD which pretty much talked about the cars features, etc.

I also ordered an original 1991 Firebird dealer brochure from ebay a while back and I was surprised to see that it didn't mention ANYTHING about convertibles. Once I find that I can scan it and post it online if you'd like since I noticed TGO doesn't have this one posted on the "multimedia" page.

 

I saw the car again today and some ******* had his arms hanging out of the passenger window. Your car is growing on me and I never thought I would own one vert much less two and much less a green TA. I saw it from about 50 yards away today in the bright sun and it looked great. The paint was almost as shiny as yours and looks to be the exact same color. I have heard some of the TA guys talk about a bass boost option with some kind of switch on the dash. Do you know what it is and what it does? Are there anymore TA specific or vert specific things to look for? What rear and gear does your car have?

 

Hehe very nice! And I'm not aware of any "bass boost" switch on the dash... obviously my car doesn't have it if this option does in fact exist. As for convertible specific things, definitely keep at eye on the top mechanism and any convertible-specific trims parts, etc that might be broken or missing. Sometimes they can be a real pain to replace. Put the top up and down and see if it moves smoothly. Also 91-92 Trans Am ground effects might be hard to come by as well, so just keep that in mind if your car is a little battered. There might be a few more things to keep in mind that I'm forgetting.

As for my car, it's got a 2.73 posi drum rear. Chances are that your car has the same. 5-speeds had 3.08s I think.

 

Here are some funfigures for you:

There was 555 T/A Verts in 1991, this is from a list of 548, so it is missing 7 from the total.

In 1991
There was about 87 Trans Am verts in the 45U Green,
83 of those had the Tan interior
66 of those had Leather
(4 of the 87 had Black interior (3 of the 4 had Leather))
65 of all the Green 45U Trans Am's had WS6


1992 I will have to do later. (Fortunately 663 of the 663 T/A Verts are on this list)
There was 161 Green (45U) T/A convertibles
157 Had Tan Interior
138 of the 157 Had Leather
2 Had Black Interior
only 1 of those had Leather
2 Had Gray Interior, both were Leather.

Of all the 161, 106 Had WS6

Enjoy

 

Its definately cool to be the moderator and have access to all of that info even if he is in the Doghouse. This one has tan leather and the lumbar seats. I could tell from the headrest. Has the good wheels to. Either year seems to be less than 100 cars and that is very cool no matter what car your dealing with. Most Ferraris have higher numbers than that. How many triple black 92 z28s, black with black top and black/grey cloth interior, 305 tpi auto with power everything. I know there were 1254 total but how many like mine?

 

Here is a photo of my '92. It looks to be a copy musclecar70sfan's car. I bought it from the second owner about a year ago. It currently has 70k miles and fortunately a boatload of documentation. While not the fastest third gen, its a very fun car to cruise in.

okfoz, now you have me curious about the '92 production numbers after posting the '91's!



Jason

 

Okfoz - I inquired about the 1991 TA Convertible production back in 2003 and Jim Mattison (PHS) replied that there were a total of 637 built. He attributed the difference to Canadian units (555 US and 82 for Canada). Have you heard of this difference?

 

That would make sense...

My source is compnine.com great place to get some ideas of production. Unfortunately from 82-89 is Canadian cars only for the F-body, and 91-92 is about 90%-95% there. Interestingly 1990 is 100% complete...

The 555 Trans Am number is found multiple places.
FIREBIRD Red Book 104 Manual Trans and 451 Automatics for 555
Standard Catalog of Firebird 1967 - 2002 shows a total of 555

Compnine.com is not 100% complete, I know that, but it is the best we have right now... I have been trying to help them with some of this to hopefully at least get 91 & 92 complete, as I suspect the information is there, but for some reason it is not picking it up. I also know that the Canadian exports are in compnine, at least some of them are.

I am adding to my previous post for 1992 production.

John

 

Looks pretty good. Makes me wish I had a firebird

 

Wow thanks for the tidbits okfoz! I learned something new. Makes me appreciate my car a little more now.

 

John,

Got anything for 92 TA verts with 18U Green-grey metallic? Search on Compnine doesn't have rarity with my vin.

Kevin D.

 

Okfoz - Just in case you don't have my 91 TA VIN, it is 1G2FW33F0ML241480.

I could pull it up on Compnine, so it probably is not new to your file, but good luck finding the ones you are missing from the 555 production number.

 

For the Jade Green (Green/Gray) 18U for 1992
there was only 30 Convertibles in this color
21 Trans Am Convertibles
1 with a Black interior (cloth)
20 With a Beige interior (all with Beige Top) (4 Cloth, 16 Leather)

Of all the 21, 14 had WS6

YELLOW Trans Am convertibles
24 TOTAL
19 With Black Interior (1 Cloth, 18 Leather)
5 With Gray Interior (2 Cloth, 3 Leather)

18 of the 24 had WS6

Other Tidbits
Manual Transmissions on the 663
10 White (10U)
4 DK Green Gray (18U)
23 Black (41U)
31 Med Green Met (45U)
5 Yellow (52U)
8 Red Metallic (75U)
21 Red (81U)
3 Blue (80U)
0 Aqua (37U)
105 TOTAL

TOTALS (Just because I feel like it)
95 White (10U)
21 DK Green Gray (18U)
92 Black (41U)
161 Med Green Met (45U)
24 Yellow (52U)
49 Red Metallic (75U)
188 Red (81U)
33 Blue (80U)
0 Aqua (37U)
663 TOTAL

Odd one for you, only 616 of the 663 Had the LB9... 47 had the L03 (all exported)

John

 

Awesome.

Thanks!

 

Yes there is a button that has a music note and in the same switch there is a slide. now I have owned cars with theis option but the componants where removed and just the switched remained. from what i have read the cars with this option used a special speaker in the sail panel that could handle some bass and it smplified just those two speakers so you could crank the bass up without blowing out your dash speakers. However while it was a good idea, the speakers still sucked. In the cars I have had it in the radios were replaced, and this feature only works with the stock radio, so it was just a empty switch, I will see if I can find a pic of the switch for you


edit: it will look like this or simaliar

 

I got an Iroc that was painted dark green back in the day and i think whoever did it used the same color paint as the firebird above what do you think?

 

another 1

 

Just bought a 1992 Trans Am WS6 convertible in black!!! Pics and information soon!

 

Did you buy Marios' car?

 

Yes I did...

 

Pics or it didn't happen!

 

Getting it this weekend. Thirdgens.... What an addiction! 22 hour drive in around 25 hours with a couple drivers. Wish me luck!









one owner 80k, all original...... I'm pretty excited to cruise with the girls(wife and two kids) this summer!

 

No kidding! Had 1 last week this time, and now 3 this week haha!!! GOOD LUCK MAN!

If I can really work some things out, I will be keeping my convertible too and put the wifey and kid in it too Car shows and cruises are great family environment.

 

Thanks man. We have my blue car, her 99 SS(with a 408, t56, and a 12 bolt), my yellow 86 iroc I've had for 15 years(no motor and a cage I want to cut out...At one time I wanted to make a drag car out of it. Want to go back stocker with it one day) , and now this.


I hope I can make it work too. 4 F-bodies is a lot and my blue one is too race for the kids, lol