bd_slim

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i just recently picked up a 1989 iroc vert from a friend that owed me some money. it needs a lot of work, but i think the potential is there. being new to the 3rd gens, and not really knowing anything about the verts, is it really worth putting the money in to restore one? one day i'll want to part it out, and a few days later i'll want to keep it. so i guess i'm just looking for some opinions. here is a little info on the car if it'll help. i would replace the floor pan, fenders, front bumper cover, top, doors, and of course the damage to the rear.



1989 iroc vert
305tpi
700-r4
4wheel discs
posi
pwr windows, locks, seat

bd_slim

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1991z28camaro

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imo I would restore the car .

Tmic87TPI

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that 1/4 needs alot of attention, probably replacement. good luck with the car

1991z28camaro

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Yeah I seen the 1/4 panel but after all the work it would look good. I would'nt mind having it.

Tmic87TPI

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yeah I'd restore it.

Darkshot

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That car looks to be pretty messed up with that rear damage. That's nothing you can just replace just like that.....thats all part of the unibody. It's a lot of work and money.

It is however a very desirable car. You'd be very hard pressed to find that car in decent shape, but then again you are going to be very hard pressed finding vert-specific parts for that car.

With the money it would take to fix THAT car I would look for another vert that may need some work but has a solid body unlike that car. Then you already have this vert for those hard-to-find parts (except the trunk lid).

Start dismantling the rear portion of the car and figure out what parts of the unibody are really damaged.

2500hd

If you have the resources (tools, garage, mechanically inclined) I say restore it. But if not, the money you pay someone to fix this thing, you'd be better of selling this and buying one in better condition.

bd_slim

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thanks for all the input so far. yeah, that rear damage is scary. i could do all the work except for that. a local body man happens to owe my dad some money, so he was going to take care of that to work it off. but, after health problems, it looks like he may be closing up shop. i think i'd rather have a t-top 5sp z, but i'd hate to just throw this away. it kinda grew on me. but on the other hand, no one around has any vert parts. and from what i see on here, the vert specific parts are hard to find.

1992rs/ss

I have to agree that the money you would put into this one would be better spent on a good roller vert and use the 2 cars to build 1 good car. these verts are hard to find these days but people stop and stare that aren't even into cars. they are just that good looking. especially in black.

2500hd

After looking at the pictures again, it looks like there's some rust on the rear decklid as well. If it's rusted there, it's a good possibility that there's rust in other places(floor pans, bottoms of the doors, & rear fender wells). I see you're from Michigan so I check this out as well.

CrimsonDragon

It has the potential if you have the desire to see it through. It's going to be a long project but it could be stunning in the end. There is nothing cooler than a black convertible with the top down, sitting in the weeds, and cruising on a warm summer night. Keep posting pics and let us know how its going.

Mitch91Z28

dude and if you decide to part ways with it... i need a parts car bad!

VERTIGO Z28

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With my reserves I could fix that car in one month with parts from just one room of my house.

bd_slim

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yes, there is some rust on the decklid, and the floor pan is shot. the doors aren't that bad, but with them having shaved handles i would replace them as well...same with the fenders. and surprisingly the rear fender wells are pretty good, minus the quarter damage. i think i would have to replace almost all of the body panels. the interior is manageable only needing a carpet kit and door panels, a steering column, as well as the rear seat panels.

again, thanks for all the input. i'd have to say at this point i'm leaning twards getting rid of it/parting it out. i'll keep everyone informed. and if i do part it out, i'll post a list of available parts.

Kevman

If you don't want it, I have an enclosed trailer and a few hundred bucks.

EDIT: I'm looking for a vert to restore, and you can't be too far from me.

VERTIGO Z28

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A few hundred will not buy that car. I don't care if it is wrecked. If it has a title and has not been partialy parted it is worth at least............YOU can tell I want to score this one.

Kevman

I've looked at alot of cars in my life time, in terms of restoring. This one here is in the 10-15000 range. Subframe is probably crunched in the back, 1/4 needs to be cut, and removed, floor needs to be cut and rewelded, needs a new top, tail lights, rear bumper, front clip, and all the other fun stuff that was damaged. Honestly, I won't fight for it. I'm just saying, if this guy wants to part it, I'd rather save it's life.

dst80944

ANOTHER LONG SHOT POSSIBILITY IS TO FIND A DONOR T-TOP CAR AND CONVERT IT INTO A CONVERTIBLE. YOU HAVE ALL THE BRACES AND ONE OF A KIND PARTS. IF YOUR GOING TO SPEND THE MONEY IT MIGHT BE WORTH IT. I'M IN THE 5TH YEAR OF A ONE YEAR REPAINT MYSELF OF AN 88 CONVERTIBLE.

okfoz

I think the truth of the matter is that the car is pretty beat up. Jsut about every panel needs work. I agree that ideally you might be well off finding another car and use this one as parts. Its sad but true.

JOhn

Iroctopless

I agree.

Scooby Doo

Wow what a beautiful car, I hate to see them get in that shape.
I suspect if you were not doing the work yourself the costs to get it back to good condition would be way more than you could buy a decent one for.
You would be better off selling (parts or whole) to get the money you were owed and then if you want a 3rd G Vert go shopping across the country for a better one, the internet is a dangerous tool.
That's a shame, how did they do that to the rear. I've seen a few of these wrapped around telephone poles, but that is usually the front, not the rear.

bd_slim

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a friend of mine suggested that as well, but i'd really rather not get into something like like.

thats probably the best way to go. but until i got this car i've never seen a 3rd gen vert with my own eyes before. not a z or rs. well, i seen one at the woodward cruise this past year, but thats it. and if i have to travel or have a car shipped, i'd much rather to it for a car thats good to go.

i'm just torn, every other day i change my mind on this thing. but i'd like to do something with it soon.

and as for the rear damage, i was told that it was rear ended, but who knows for sure.

Mr.SS

I bought a 1990 Iroc vert last Sept in PA with just under 16,000 original miles in really nice shape for $12,000. I truly doubt you could fix the one you have for anything close to that. I found mine by looking at the Autotrader online. I had to fly there and drive it 15 hours or so back home but my wife came along and we had a great trip. If I had it to do all over again, I would. Just something to think about. I would do that and part the one you have myself.

GMZombie

Ya know im just going to have to say you really cant tell the extense of the problem till you start to tear the bumper off the rear end. I believe the 1/4 could easily be fixed once the rear is adjusted. Now i could be wrong but i would first take apart the places that look bad if possible and survey the damage. give some pics of the damage up close after you remove the bumper and possibly under car then i think you can say what you should or shouldnt do...but this is just my opinion

okfoz

Where are you located, if you live close enough I might look at it and tell you what I really think...

IROCZ28KevinZ

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That saddens me to see that car like that. Not only is it a thirdgen vert, but it's an IROC at that. I forsee the IROCs being the most desireable of the verts in the future, at least the ones you can find easier than the rest (the TTA vert, TransAm/GTA Verts, 350 TPI Verts, those don't count lol). The IROC back in its day was THE car to have according to guys I work with and such that were in high school back then. Imagine the history that car had. That car probably had more people stare at it than you can imagine when it was in its prime. A shame to see it as it is now. Makes me want to cry, but also makes me appreciate the 1991 Z28 vert I bought last year even more.

If I can add my 2 cents here there ya go; just imagine what it will be like cruising that bad boy up and down the main drag in town during a summer night, top down blaring some classic rock or music of your choice. I don't give you 10 minutes and you'll be the talk of the whole place. That's how it is with mine, anyway. Great feeling.

bd_slim

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i think thats going to be my next step. sometime within the next 2 weeks i plan to dig into the rear and see whats really there. i don't really want to tear too much of it down yet...if i decide to sell and someone wants the complete car, i don't want a bunch of torn off parts and have something come up missing. i've got 2 younger brothers and that tends to happen more than i'd like. but i'll keep everyone informed.

on a side note, could someone give me a price for a set of used fenders or a new quarter? those seem to be the last two parts i can't find. thanks