Convertibles Discussed here are problems and solutions to convertible specific questions, including difficult to find part numbers and other convertible tech help.

Got a gooooood Christmas this year

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-24-2006 | 11:48 PM
  #1  
BlueZee28's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supreme Member

iTrader: (30)
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 6,258
Likes: 4
From: O'Fallon, MO
Car: 1991 Z28 convertible built 3/1/1990
Engine: Cammed 6.0L LSX
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: custom Ford 8.8", 4.10 gears
Got a gooooood Christmas this year

Almost better than 3 yrs ago when I got my PS2

I just ordered my UMI weld-in, black subframe connectors My granparents don't have the interweb so I ordered them and I'll get em' kinda early since I had them shipped to my house I can't wait to weld em' on! WOOOOT!
Old 11-25-2006 | 09:22 AM
  #2  
Cadillac's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 4,168
Likes: 2
From: Marietta, GA
Car: '91 Firebird Convertible
Engine: 305 TBI (LO3)
Transmission: 700r4, Vette Servo
Axle/Gears: 3.27 9 Bolt, PBR disks
The PS2 came out in 2000 so that means you were really behind the curve.



Will you be able to tell if they are any different that than the Alstons or Spohns?
Old 11-25-2006 | 12:40 PM
  #3  
BlueZee28's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supreme Member

iTrader: (30)
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 6,258
Likes: 4
From: O'Fallon, MO
Car: 1991 Z28 convertible built 3/1/1990
Engine: Cammed 6.0L LSX
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: custom Ford 8.8", 4.10 gears
Originally Posted by Cadillac
The PS2 came out in 2000 so that means you were really behind the curve.

Yep, that's me. I'm always behind on things, it's cheaper that way. I'm also just now getting an iPod for Christmas too


Originally Posted by Cadillac
Will you be able to tell if they are any different that than the Alstons or Spohns?
I don't know, I have never ridden in a car with Alstons or Spohns
Old 11-25-2006 | 07:09 PM
  #4  
nelapse's Avatar
Supreme Member
iTrader: (17)
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 2,716
Likes: 2
From: Mobile, AL
Car: GTA
Engine: 383 HSR
Transmission: TH-700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.42
This may sound silly... but the only SFC's UMI makes for thirdgens are not compatible with verts. Under the discription in caps it says (WILL NOT FIT CONVERTIBLES) I just do not want to see you disappointed with a great company.

What is the part number of the part you ordered?
Old 11-25-2006 | 11:11 PM
  #5  
92RS(real slow)'s Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 2,151
Likes: 0
From: Osceola Indiana
Car: 92 RS(sold) 1989 IROC-Z
Engine: 350 TPI
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: ones that turn
there probaly for his 89 G92 Lucky you, tell us how eveything goes after you get them installed Im always behind with everything too lol I always get things way late much cheaper that way$$$
Old 11-25-2006 | 11:17 PM
  #6  
Tobias05's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,779
Likes: 2
From: any clime or place...
Car: 1987 Camaro SC, 1999 Z28
Engine: GMPP 350HO, LS1
Transmission: Built 700r4/EDGE 3200, T56
Axle/Gears: 3.42 Eaton 7.625, 3.42 Zexel Torsen
sweet! love buying my own christmas presents, i always get what i want!

my spohn sfcs made a huge difference, noticed it as soon as i got behind the wheel. i need to add a couple more welds though, and paint them...

good luck!
brandon
Old 11-25-2006 | 11:51 PM
  #7  
BlueZee28's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supreme Member

iTrader: (30)
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 6,258
Likes: 4
From: O'Fallon, MO
Car: 1991 Z28 convertible built 3/1/1990
Engine: Cammed 6.0L LSX
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: custom Ford 8.8", 4.10 gears
FOCK FOCK FOCK FOCK FOCK FOCK FOCK

You're effing right...they don't work for convertibles....I ordered the UMI's because someone made the point in a sfc thread in the CONVERTIBLE forums, that UMI makes the best crap out there...so I guess I ASSumed they would work for CONVERTIBLES since it was posted in the CONVERTIBLE forum....FOCK




Hopefully it's not too late to cancel my order
Old 11-26-2006 | 12:14 AM
  #8  
Tobias05's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,779
Likes: 2
From: any clime or place...
Car: 1987 Camaro SC, 1999 Z28
Engine: GMPP 350HO, LS1
Transmission: Built 700r4/EDGE 3200, T56
Axle/Gears: 3.42 Eaton 7.625, 3.42 Zexel Torsen
just put them on the iroc then?
Old 11-26-2006 | 12:56 AM
  #9  
BlueZee28's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supreme Member

iTrader: (30)
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 6,258
Likes: 4
From: O'Fallon, MO
Car: 1991 Z28 convertible built 3/1/1990
Engine: Cammed 6.0L LSX
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: custom Ford 8.8", 4.10 gears
Originally Posted by Tobias05
just put them on the iroc then?
I wanna do my full suspension on the vert first before I mod the IROC. I hate chassis flex, and I get a lot of it in the vert since it's missing the top half of the car



And oh yea...it's a '90 G92, not a '89


But anyways, I still gotta get that thing painted also, before I mod it. Should have it all pretty before the end of January
Old 11-26-2006 | 06:49 AM
  #10  
nelapse's Avatar
Supreme Member
iTrader: (17)
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 2,716
Likes: 2
From: Mobile, AL
Car: GTA
Engine: 383 HSR
Transmission: TH-700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.42
It was me who convinced you they were the best in the other thread. They are, but I was not under the impression they were for your convertible. If I have known that I would have said something.

If they cannot cancel your order, which I am sure they can due to the holidays. If not I am sure some minor mods could make them work.
Old 11-26-2006 | 09:43 AM
  #11  
BlueZee28's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supreme Member

iTrader: (30)
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 6,258
Likes: 4
From: O'Fallon, MO
Car: 1991 Z28 convertible built 3/1/1990
Engine: Cammed 6.0L LSX
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: custom Ford 8.8", 4.10 gears
Originally Posted by nelapse
It was me who convinced you they were the best in the other thread. They are, but I was not under the impression they were for your convertible. If I have known that I would have said something.

If they cannot cancel your order, which I am sure they can due to the holidays. If not I am sure some minor mods could make them work.

Don't sweat it man, I should had read the fine print at the top of the screen before I hit "check out"

I'm sure they won't have a problem cancelling the order, I sent them an email last night and they won't even be back in business until tomorrow. They took a really long Thanksgiving weekend, so it's not like it's already been processed since I just ordered them this weekend.

I went ahead and ordered the Alstons from Top-Down Solutions. They look just as good as the UMI stuff, and they WILL work for my car. I can't wait to see how much different the car rides after that!
Old 11-26-2006 | 09:45 AM
  #12  
nelapse's Avatar
Supreme Member
iTrader: (17)
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 2,716
Likes: 2
From: Mobile, AL
Car: GTA
Engine: 383 HSR
Transmission: TH-700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.42
UMI is a great company, I did not want you to have bad blood with them.
Old 11-26-2006 | 10:19 AM
  #13  
Tobias05's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,779
Likes: 2
From: any clime or place...
Car: 1987 Camaro SC, 1999 Z28
Engine: GMPP 350HO, LS1
Transmission: Built 700r4/EDGE 3200, T56
Axle/Gears: 3.42 Eaton 7.625, 3.42 Zexel Torsen
so for the vert, whats after the sfcs?
Old 11-26-2006 | 12:58 PM
  #14  
Cadillac's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 4,168
Likes: 2
From: Marietta, GA
Car: '91 Firebird Convertible
Engine: 305 TBI (LO3)
Transmission: 700r4, Vette Servo
Axle/Gears: 3.27 9 Bolt, PBR disks
Originally Posted by Tobias05
so for the vert, whats after the sfcs?
If you were asking me that answer would be...
  • 3.42 Posi Rear with Disks
  • Rims/Tires: Either some new(er) GTA's or something bigger (17's) - Current GTA's are bent.
  • Motor/Tranny: L-Something, T-Something
Other than those things getting a new paint job keeping up with the wear on the trim and my car is done.
Old 11-26-2006 | 04:05 PM
  #15  
BlueZee28's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supreme Member

iTrader: (30)
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 6,258
Likes: 4
From: O'Fallon, MO
Car: 1991 Z28 convertible built 3/1/1990
Engine: Cammed 6.0L LSX
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: custom Ford 8.8", 4.10 gears
Originally Posted by Tobias05
so for the vert, whats after the sfcs?
WonderBar
Ported and polished heads
cam
stall
4th gen rear end w/ 3.42's

Old 11-26-2006 | 06:40 PM
  #16  
WillSpeedy's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 393
Likes: 0
From: Central Alberta,Canada
Car: 88 Iroc Vert/ 1980 Z28
Engine: 305 TPI/ 350
Transmission: 700R4/ TH350
Axle/Gears: 2.73posi/ 3.08 Open
You'll love the Alstons they make a big difference. 2/3 of your rattles will be gone.
PS where do you have your exhaust cutout mounted? I have an electronic one coming in the mail but I'm not sure where to mount it yet.
Old 11-26-2006 | 09:24 PM
  #17  
BlueZee28's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supreme Member

iTrader: (30)
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 6,258
Likes: 4
From: O'Fallon, MO
Car: 1991 Z28 convertible built 3/1/1990
Engine: Cammed 6.0L LSX
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: custom Ford 8.8", 4.10 gears
Originally Posted by WillSpeedy
You'll love the Alstons they make a big difference. 2/3 of your rattles will be gone.
PS where do you have your exhaust cutout mounted? I have an electronic one coming in the mail but I'm not sure where to mount it yet.

I cut the cat off, and it sits right where the cat used to be. It's angled down and out.
Old 11-26-2006 | 10:04 PM
  #18  
Tobias05's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,779
Likes: 2
From: any clime or place...
Car: 1987 Camaro SC, 1999 Z28
Engine: GMPP 350HO, LS1
Transmission: Built 700r4/EDGE 3200, T56
Axle/Gears: 3.42 Eaton 7.625, 3.42 Zexel Torsen
Originally Posted by BlueZee28
4th gen rear end w/ 3.42's
mmmm....you're running 4th gen offset rims correct? if so i'd think there'd be more piece of mind removing the spacers in that case.
Old 11-27-2006 | 12:33 AM
  #19  
BlueZee28's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supreme Member

iTrader: (30)
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 6,258
Likes: 4
From: O'Fallon, MO
Car: 1991 Z28 convertible built 3/1/1990
Engine: Cammed 6.0L LSX
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: custom Ford 8.8", 4.10 gears
Originally Posted by Tobias05
mmmm....you're running 4th gen offset rims correct? if so i'd think there'd be more piece of mind removing the spacers in that case.
Exactly
Old 11-28-2006 | 03:53 AM
  #20  
Pat Hall's Avatar
Supreme Member
iTrader: (31)
 
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 3,347
Likes: 3
From: Roy,UT USA
I've got the Alstons on mine and I've been way happy with them! Mine has t-tops, so it's not quite as prone to flex as your convertible, but all the typical creaks and pops associated with a t-top car, like when you pull into a steep driveway at an angle, completely disappeared after putting them on. I initially installed them just using the bolts, but I had them welded a couple of days later, and I highly recommend that you do the same with yours. I've never dealt with UMI before, but I've heard good things about them. If you've never dealt with TDS before, you're in for a treat. Lon is another awesome guy to deal with!
Old 11-28-2006 | 10:07 AM
  #21  
BlueZee28's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supreme Member

iTrader: (30)
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 6,258
Likes: 4
From: O'Fallon, MO
Car: 1991 Z28 convertible built 3/1/1990
Engine: Cammed 6.0L LSX
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: custom Ford 8.8", 4.10 gears
Originally Posted by Pat Hall
If you've never dealt with TDS before, you're in for a treat. Lon is another awesome guy to deal with!
I'm seeing this already! Lon got my order yesterday morning, and he had the subframe connectors shipped off early yesterday afternoon!
Old 02-21-2007 | 10:17 PM
  #22  
91 Ragtop's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 197
Likes: 0
From: Canal Winchester, Ohio
Car: 1991 Trans Am Convertible
Engine: 305
Transmission: 5-Speed
So how did the install go? Making the ASSumption that you got them installed, did you notice a major difference.

I'm starting to look at several options for the Trans Am this upcoming spring....
Old 02-21-2007 | 10:53 PM
  #23  
BlueZee28's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supreme Member

iTrader: (30)
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 6,258
Likes: 4
From: O'Fallon, MO
Car: 1991 Z28 convertible built 3/1/1990
Engine: Cammed 6.0L LSX
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: custom Ford 8.8", 4.10 gears
Originally Posted by 91 Ragtop
So how did the install go? Making the ASSumption that you got them installed, did you notice a major difference.

I'm starting to look at several options for the Trans Am this upcoming spring....
After jacking the car up, the install took about 15-20 minutes. It's supposed to take longer than that, but since I have no catalytic converter, I could actually run the passenger side connector over the exhaust pipe (over the cutout). The reason it's supposed to take longer is because you can't fit the passenger side over a cat, so you have to unbolt the exhaust, which we didn't have to do.


I noticed a difference as soon as I rolled out of my buddy's driveway. Made a major difference in handling and ride quality. The ride is a little rougher because it's more firm, but I like it.
Old 02-22-2007 | 03:25 PM
  #24  
89ROCDROPTOP's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 106
Likes: 0
From: S.E. MI
Car: 89IROC conv
Engine: LB9
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.73 posi
Where did you purchase your SFC's from. Im not modding my car, but I cant stand sqeaks & rattles.
Old 02-22-2007 | 03:27 PM
  #25  
BlueZee28's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supreme Member

iTrader: (30)
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 6,258
Likes: 4
From: O'Fallon, MO
Car: 1991 Z28 convertible built 3/1/1990
Engine: Cammed 6.0L LSX
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: custom Ford 8.8", 4.10 gears
Originally Posted by 89ROCDROPTOP
Where did you purchase your SFC's from. Im not modding my car, but I cant stand sqeaks & rattles.

top-downsolutions.com They were $202 shipped to my door.
Old 02-23-2007 | 09:21 PM
  #26  
91 Ragtop's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 197
Likes: 0
From: Canal Winchester, Ohio
Car: 1991 Trans Am Convertible
Engine: 305
Transmission: 5-Speed
Thanks for the update. Looks like a definate purchase for this year!!
Old 02-23-2007 | 09:55 PM
  #27  
Pat Hall's Avatar
Supreme Member
iTrader: (31)
 
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 3,347
Likes: 3
From: Roy,UT USA
Originally Posted by BlueZee28
After jacking the car up, the install took about 15-20 minutes. It's supposed to take longer than that, but since I have no catalytic converter, I could actually run the passenger side connector over the exhaust pipe (over the cutout). The reason it's supposed to take longer is because you can't fit the passenger side over a cat, so you have to unbolt the exhaust, which we didn't have to do.


I noticed a difference as soon as I rolled out of my buddy's driveway. Made a major difference in handling and ride quality. The ride is a little rougher because it's more firm, but I like it.
Did you weld them or just bolt them in? I initially used bolts on mine, but I had them welded a day or two later. If you haven't welded yours yet, I highly recommend doing so. It makes them even stiffer and they won't shift around at all. Actually, mine are welded and bolted. I figured there was no point in taking the bolts back out. P.S. I have a cat in mine, and I had to hammer the top part of the casing towards the rear of it flatter because it was rattling against the connector. I also had to use a cutoff tool and trim the top of the I-pipe flange a tad. Wasn't a big deal. You're lucky you don't have to worry about clearance for the cat though.

Last edited by Pat Hall; 02-23-2007 at 09:59 PM.
Old 02-24-2007 | 01:43 AM
  #28  
BlueZee28's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supreme Member

iTrader: (30)
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 6,258
Likes: 4
From: O'Fallon, MO
Car: 1991 Z28 convertible built 3/1/1990
Engine: Cammed 6.0L LSX
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: custom Ford 8.8", 4.10 gears
Originally Posted by Pat Hall
Did you weld them or just bolt them in? I initially used bolts on mine, but I had them welded a day or two later. If you haven't welded yours yet, I highly recommend doing so. It makes them even stiffer and they won't shift around at all. Actually, mine are welded and bolted. I figured there was no point in taking the bolts back out. P.S. I have a cat in mine, and I had to hammer the top part of the casing towards the rear of it flatter because it was rattling against the connector. I also had to use a cutoff tool and trim the top of the I-pipe flange a tad. Wasn't a big deal. You're lucky you don't have to worry about clearance for the cat though.

Yea I never even had mine bolted on, just set them up on the car and had them welded right off the bat. Is your car a dual cat car? A friend of mine has a '92 Z03 car with dual cats and he had to actually cut up the exhaust and then re-weld it after he put on the sfc's.
Old 02-24-2007 | 03:32 AM
  #29  
Pat Hall's Avatar
Supreme Member
iTrader: (31)
 
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 3,347
Likes: 3
From: Roy,UT USA
Nah, luckily mine has the 3" single cat. I can't even imagine trying to put them on with dual cats. Probably a major PITA. If I had dual cats I'd probably just go with Spohns or some other brand that's perimeter style. I really do like my Alston's though. I like how they go straight from the front frame rails to the rear. Seems stronger to me that way. I realize the vast majority of members here run the Spohns so I'll probably get flamed for saying I think the Alstons are stronger, but that's my personal opinion.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
colton_carlson
Firebirds for Sale
7
03-08-2019 12:21 PM
Cornholio7979
TPI
4
09-20-2018 02:31 AM
92GTA
History / Originality
45
04-09-2016 07:39 AM
Americanmouse
Transmissions and Drivetrain
10
09-07-2015 12:10 PM
ChaseDale3and8
Mid-West Region
12
08-25-2015 06:34 PM



Quick Reply: Got a gooooood Christmas this year



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:13 AM.