Cord

Hello all, i have posted before but still fairly new at working on engines, i had a q-jet that was in bad shape and made a good trade for some computer hardware for a barely used edelbrock 1406, a friend helped me put it in of the weekend, and now im thinking maybe i should have checked up on what he knew about my car first :P

Ok so heres the rundown, its a stock 305, everything else was stock in it until we removed the q-jet, and put on the 1406. He started removing vacum hoses saying stuff wasnt needed anymore, and im not sure he really knew what he was removing, he also hooked up the linkage, and the throttle felt like it was pushing back against my foot. I think i have solved the linkage problem, but it still wants to stick every once in a while. If anyone has any pics of what the linkage should look like with this setup it would be awesome.

The last thing that i think is still going on with the car is that the shifting seems out whack. It doesnt feel like it shifts correctly at all, i have read some stuff on the board about controlling the TCC (what does TCC stand for?) but i know he didnt mention anything like that to me so thus my feeling that he knows less about my car than he should have.

Oh, and its an automatic transmission....i guess i should have put that earlier too. Thanks for any help you can offer.

Apeiron

Check the TV cable geometry for your shifting problems. Are you using the stock Qjet cable bracket?

Cord

Yes i am using the stock cable bracket, do i need a different one? and which one is the TV Cable?

Apeiron

The TV cable is the lower one that gets pulled out as the throttle opens. Its geometry affects the shift timing and firmness, and if it's far enough out of whack, it'll even negatively affect transmission longetivity.

The stock bracket was designed to work with the throttle arm location on the Qjet, but the distance from the bracket to the throttle arm on the Edelbrock is shorter. You may be able to adjust the TV cable to improve things somewhat (search for directions), but to get things 100% correct you'll probably need a new bracket.

Cord

Ill just search for the correct bracket then and replace it, the angle looks very wrong on it anyways its not straight out, it goes at a downward angle towards the linkage on the edelbrock.

So there are 3 cables coming out of that bracket, there is one with a single eyehole for a bolt, and then one that has a long section to be able to adjust it, then one that is a very thin cable that has a connector on it that looks like it just hooked on the q-jet and snapped in place....which one of thes is the TV cable, and what are the other two?

My friend called the small one a kick-down?

Apeiron

The cable with the eye on the end is the throttle cable, the one with the long slotted end is the cruise cable, and the one that snaps on to the stud that your friend calls a kickdown cable (which is not a kickdown cable) is the all-important TV cable.

I don't know offhand of any brackets that will work while retaining your cruise cable, but there must be something available. Edelbrock P/N 8036 looks like it might work. What intake are you using?

Can you post a picture of how things are set up right now?

Cord

I can post a pic when i get home, when you say cruise cable, you mean cruise control? i really dont care about that if thats what its for, he didnt have a place to attach the TV cable to, so he "*******ed" it and used a zip tie, that would explain why it feels so sloppy.

Apeiron

Yes, I mean the cruise control cable.

You'll definitely want to get the TV cable fixed. The stud to mount it should have come with a new carb, or you should be able to get one at a parts store.

Getting back to the original question, the TCC is the torque converter clutch. Without the computer you'll need to provide a way to lock it up in 4th. A search should turn up a few different ways of doing it.

While you were doing all this, did you replace the distributor like you should have?

Cord

Of course not, i was told that i would not need to, it was suggested however which followed along with what has been said on the stuff i have found on here. Ill have to hit the parts store and look for some more parts it looks like.

Apeiron

It's probably a little late to mention, but the 1406 is pretty much a downgrade in all respects from the factory Qjet. A rebuild would probably have taken care of any problems it may have had.

Cord

I still have the old carb, maybe i should just rebuild it and stick it back on, and sell the edelbrock.

Cord

Ok, so i put the q-jet back in, and of course have run into issues. After running for a few moments fuel starts pooring out the front of the carb. My father-in law is a mechanic and knows a bit about carbs, and said he thought it was the float, we took things apart and tried to get it to stop, but it is still doing it. Do i need to rebuild the carb at this point?

How do i tune the float to work correctly?


EDIT: After reading some more, i have seen some issues with the fuel overflow problem when the fuel filter is removed from the inlet, is this really an issue? We left the in-line fuel filter from the Edelbrock and didnt use the internal filter, i did replace the white plastic gasket however.