Mechanical secondaries VS vacuum secondaries?
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Car: 1984 Trans Am
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Mechanical secondaries VS vacuum secondaries?
What do you prefer? I am experiencing a major bog in my TA right before my quadrajets vacuum sec's open and I am thinking about getting a 4brl with mechanical sec's rather than rebuild the quadrajet. However I have never owned a carb with mechanical secondaries and I was just wondering if they are any better or I should say do they have a smoother transition between 2brl operation and 4brl wide open throttle. The TA is so bad right now when I floor it, it nose dives for about a full second and then takes off like a bat out of hell. The motor is a 350 with a mild cam and 202 heads probably putting out about 300hp so I was thinking maybe a holly 650 with mech sec's as this is more of a red light to red light and in town cruiser and will hardly ever see anything above 5500rpm. Looking for any and all suggestions.
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From: Mercedes Norte, Heredia, Costa Rica
Car: 1984 Z28 Hardtop
Engine: 383 Carb
Transmission: 4L60
Axle/Gears: 3.54 Dana 44
Re: Mechanical secondaries VS vacuum secondaries?
Quadrajets don't have vacuum secondaries. Have you tried adjusting the secondary air valve tension?
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You need to adjust the secondary AV tension, which is discussed in the tech article about getting the most out of your q-jet, linked from the home page. You may also have a bad or disconnected choke pull-off, which plays a part in this, too. The way this is supposed to work is the pull-off and tension keep the AV closed when the throttle blades first open, then slowly open the AV so only a little air flow is allowed into the secondaries, enough to start pulling the fuel in, and then the AV opens to full flow. It's mainly a trial-&-error adjustment - add tension, test drive; readjust, test drive, etc., until you don't feel the secondaries open - If you can feel them open, you are bogging and you need to add a little more tension.
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Re: Mechanical secondaries VS vacuum secondaries?
Thanks I tried this today and it took me about 2 hours to get it just right but boy what a difference...very snappy acceleration and I got it so the AV for the secondaries opens at about 3700rpm and it opens smooth with no bog.
And I was going to buy a new carb...like I said thank you again!
Everyone I ever talked to says quadrajets are junk but my car is running ripe...gonna go out and kill me a civic with a cold air intake and a wing this weekend, LOL!
And I was going to buy a new carb...like I said thank you again!
Everyone I ever talked to says quadrajets are junk but my car is running ripe...gonna go out and kill me a civic with a cold air intake and a wing this weekend, LOL!
Last edited by 4playta; 03-27-2007 at 12:45 AM.
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Car: 84 trans am
Engine: 305
Transmission: built 700r4
Re: Mechanical secondaries VS vacuum secondaries?
no need for a holley on these cars. the qjet is not the limiting factor. sure if you want one buy one , and the adaptor to make it fit on your manifold too. but its not nessicery
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