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Old 07-05-2001, 07:53 AM
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Edelbrock 600 CFM ??'s

I have a 355 with a Edelborck 600. It was the manual choke model, but the electric choke has been added. After some changes to the springs, the carb runs great. BUT, when you really stick your foot in it the car blows fuel smoke out the pipes. You can see the cloud hanging behind you. Its not oil smoke either (new motor and you can smell it). I cannot see a 600 dumping to much fuel for a 350, so there must be something wrong somewhere. I have a 750 DP on it and it never smoked. Any ideas??

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Keep tuning, your running too rich. The CFM is how much AIR the carb will flow. It has nothing to do with how much fuel it will supply.

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Sounds like you need jet and/or rod changes. Make sure your needle/seat assemblies are not stuck open and that the float levels are ok and FP not too high, If those are fine, you'll need the Edelbrock Tuning kit for that carb. Enough rods and jets and springs and directions in there to get you right.
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I'm having the same problem, the smell of gas and the cloud of smoke, plus black powder on the tailpipes, I would think these carbs would come adjusted properly without running rich.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Mark A Shields:
I would think these carbs would come adjusted properly without running rich.</font>
Be reasonable. Adjusted properly for what? How would they know exactly how to tune a carb to run on your car? They're shipping a carb that the customer is going to put on anything from a mild cammed small block to a fairly nasty big block. Out of the box it will get the car running. Optimizing its performance is your problem. If you don't like that idea, then get a factory FI car.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by 82camaro:
Keep tuning, your running too rich. The CFM is how much AIR the carb will flow. It has nothing to do with how much fuel it will supply.

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true CFM is airflow but the lower CFM carbs also have smaller jets than the bigger ones.

Did you just bolt the carb on? Have you tried dialing in the A/F mixture? Is the timing right?


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The carb you describe is built for performance, number 1404/1405 I think. The jets and rods compared to a 1406 larger. You are not getting enough air in higher rpms to burn all the fuel so I would drop down the secondary jets untile the problem goes away.
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As I suggested, by the Edelbrock Tuning kit for your carb P/N. Go to there website and there are some sample AF problem instructions there. You will also need to do some ignition curve fine tuning, I am sure...

There is no way a single carb could be setup perfectly for every situation/engine. If a carb could do that by itself OOB, it would outsell all other carbs combined.
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Generally they are rich right out of the box. Dont ask me why.

I'd suggest a carter strip kit or the edelcrock kit, and tune it. More than likely you will have to drop the rear jet sizes by 4 and the fronts by 2, depending on what they stuck in it. The rods with the largest drop from the upper to lower diameter generally give the best driveability, and put the pump shot one step above the lowest setting. Thats a good starting point, then go from there.
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Thanks guys. I figured it was rich, but I was stunned by how much. Yes, this is the "performance" 600. I just called and ordered my new springs and struts, so I added a kit to it.

Besides the problem, the carb ran fine out of the box. I guess they set them a tad rich to be on the safe side. I would rather be rich than lean!

Thanks again.

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