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Old 12-04-2001 | 06:21 PM
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which sub to buy

first off i wuold like to ask if anybody has or knows anybody who has eclipse subs and how they sound and how much they cost, cause the website doesn't say and it will be weeks b4 i get the catalog. i have narrowed my choices to either those the eclipse 8000(i think, which ever is the highest), the RF punch power, the kenwood tornado's. if anybody has an opinion on which ones i should get and a legit. answer please reply, i would really like to know how much those eclipse's are cause they look real good. i am planning on getting 2 10's, i am tryin to find a good amp to power these 2 subs, pref. only one so i dont have to do a bunch of extra wiring, lazy me. thanks to anybody who replys.

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Old 12-04-2001 | 10:20 PM
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I don't know much about Eclipse, but from what I've heard and the few I've listened to in a showroom (Aluminum cones I think) they would kick Rockfords @ss and definatly blow away Kenwood.

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Old 12-04-2001 | 10:55 PM
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yea dude, eclipses all the way over RF and KW. I see more upscale systems at shows including Eclipse over the other 2.

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Old 12-07-2001 | 07:51 PM
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What about Kicker Solo-Barics. Those things THUMP. I know a dude that has 3 in a little Nissan truck. His roof caves in and bows out when he turns his amp whide open!
Old 12-07-2001 | 11:40 PM
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i think the Eclipse Titanium Pro 8800 DVC is like $800, but the other ones your talkin about should only be from like $250-600, not real sure, but man do Eclipse subs pound lol
Old 12-09-2001 | 07:21 PM
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yea, solo barics are tight but where am i gonna fit those, and why would i want them in a muscle car. anyway i found some audiobahn's for a really good deal and think i have changed my mind and will prob. go with those. they look good and sound pretty good too. thanks for the input

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Old 12-09-2001 | 07:35 PM
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I had a single eclipse 88100 hooked to my 500a2 fosgate amp, slammed hard as sin and SQ to no end, then my box started venting plus the 2 ohm load on my fosgate prob was throwing a clipped signal at it so it ripped the coil away from the cone, sweet sub, probably buy a match for it and put in my 79 after it comes back from warranty, definetly worth the money, they are like $250 from www.buyloud.com i think, oh i've also had: Fosgate HX2, Diamond Audio M5, Cerwin Vega, Fosgate HE, MTX6000, and i'd take the eclipse over EVERY one of them.
Old 12-09-2001 | 09:42 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by hot86z-28:
yea, solo barics are tight but where am i gonna fit those, and why would i want them in a muscle car. anyway i found some audiobahn's for a really good deal and think i have changed my mind and will prob. go with those. they look good and sound pretty good too. thanks for the input

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Which Audiobahns? I'm familar with all the Audiobahn products and their SQ subs that retail for $350 don't come close to the Eclipses that Z28racer said were $100 cheaper. Audiobahn has lots of SPL, but not the great SQ. Just curious on why your changing your mind.

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Old 12-09-2001 | 11:32 PM
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after being in the sound scene for a while now and hearing many systems and all kinds of setups.... eclipse aren't bad but with the same amp, i heard a kicker l7 whoop the eclipse 15" *** .... personally i would always recommend audiobahns...alpines...boston(www.bostonacoustics.com) they are a sub company of BOSE....and cadence and fusion....these r my favs by far....u want thump....those r the bad boys
Old 12-10-2001 | 11:19 AM
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Sorry but i highly doubt that L7 would beat an Eclipse 88100 in a SQ comp, and after looking at audiobahn and working with them some im not buying another product from them, no way in He!! the audiobahns come close to the quality of Eclipse, and that single 10" I had in the back of my Z was enough to make your head hurt, not to mention some guy in a drive thru get out of his civic and beg me to install his system, he stood there for several minutes arguing with me that i had 2 12's, but wouldnt bet me any money oh well its your money, waste if you want, i say go with JL or Eclipse, i've played with a lot of products and they actually impress me.
Old 12-10-2001 | 03:35 PM
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I'm with Z28racer again, No way an L7 would top an Eclipse 88100 in SQ comp., not sure who would win SPL wise. High end Audiobahns are good for SPL, not SQ (Exception the aluminum cone which is clear with good SPL). I've heard Kicker and Eclipse few times, but enough to know who would win in comp. By the way some SQ guys (like myself) don't like big 15" subs becouse they tend to not be as responsive as a 10" of the same model. This varies, but is usually the case.

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Old 12-10-2001 | 04:36 PM
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the audiobahn's that i am looking at are the 10" compression piston subs, they only handle 350 but i am gettin 2 so it will sound better, i am planin on gettin an amp that puts out about 300 x 2, not sure what brand but somethin that puts out that much. i am gettin a really good deal on these and that is one of the main reasons i am buyin them. i have heard 1 12 and it sounded pretty good for the amp the guy had, it only put out 300 x 1 but for the boom it put out good.

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Old 12-11-2001 | 02:13 PM
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forget all those choices and buy a set of 12" alpine type r's.

i have them in my 1985 iroc and they pound.
backed up by a mrv-t757 nuttin will beat em.

ALPINE all the way!
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by IROC355:
forget all those choices and buy a set of 12" alpine type r's.

i have them in my 1985 iroc and they pound.
backed up by a mrv-t757 nuttin will beat em.

ALPINE all the way!
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Nuttin will beat em huh ? sorry had an R10 and compared to my Eclipse 88100 it got its doors blow off, *edit* or should i say "voice coil blow out" hehe, nice sub, but sorry doesnt compare.


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Old 12-11-2001 | 08:09 PM
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sorry to reply to this topic again but at the sound levels we were hearing the l7 vs. eclipse subs at weren't that high.... they were bout midway that the amp could do...but YES the L7 outdid the eclipse....
(no it was not setup wrong...this was at Ovation) also..i second the whole ALPINE ALL THE WAY thing....
Q: ever heard four audiobahn 12" with 1000max hooked up to 3 1,000 watt plus one 900 watt amps? ummm didn't think so
Old 12-11-2001 | 09:04 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by korbin:
sorry to reply to this topic again but at the sound levels we were hearing the l7 vs. eclipse subs at weren't that high.... they were bout midway that the amp could do...but YES the L7 outdid the eclipse....
(no it was not setup wrong...this was at Ovation) also..i second the whole ALPINE ALL THE WAY thing....
Q: ever heard four audiobahn 12" with 1000max hooked up to 3 1,000 watt plus one 900 watt amps? ummm didn't think so
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First of all Audiobahn makes $70 piece of junk subs and then they make $1000 subs and everything in between, which series were the four that you heard. Also there are at least four series of subs that Audiobahn makes that are rated at 1000 watts. And ummmmm no I have not heard 4 of them I've heard 12 of them in a competition van (by my local dealer, Pro Audio) with memphis amps. They were the Aluminum cone subs that are rip offs of Eclipse's. I was impressed, but they retail for $350 per sub, not to mention Memphis amps are some of the best amps I've seen.

Again as I've said before in this post of course the Kickers are louder, they have like 23% more cone area. However, if you are in SQ competition the Eclipses will "outdo" Kickers. Not SPL.

Alpines are pretty good, they woulden't keep up with Kickers or Eclipse, but all around Alpine is a good company if wanted to get the whole system. I'm not sure if Eclipse amps are as good as Alpines, but IMO Eclipse has Alpine beat in every product (HU to subs). They do cost significantly more though. It depends on what you plan on spending.

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Old 12-21-2001 | 11:23 AM
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well what happened to everybody, what about those audiobahn subs. good price but would it be worth it in the long run? o hope i get some more replys
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