JP84Z430HP

Ok now, here's the story. about 5 or 6 months ago, I bought a Kicker Solo 12 L7 sub (Dual 4 ohm voice coil, wired in parallel), and a DX700 amp to run it. At the same time I bought 2 ZR240's to run the rest of the car.
After about a week, the DX700 would go into protection most of the times that I turned it on. Took it back, and they handed me another amp, and it worked great.....for about a week. That amp really fried. It blew all 3 fuses in the amp, and then wouldn't come out of protection.
Well, I decided enough is enough, and had the shop do a thorough check of my installation, and put the next one in for me. The only thing we could come up with after the installer talked with kicker was the alternator voltage would go up to about 15 volts when cold. I didn't have any problems with the second 2 amps when cold, but after playing them for a while.
It worked pretty well except it would shut down after beating on it pretty hard for a few minutes. It would come right back on after shutting the system down though. Yesterday, I was driving along with the volume at maybe half, and the amp shut down. It wouldn't come back on, and the protection light came on. The fuses were good, and the amp was cool. I took it back to the shop, and they are sending it out to Kicker.
I haven't had any trounles with the other 2 amps, and I am becoming very disappointed with this amp.

Anyone have any ideas?

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'84 Z28 LG4 305 with 200,000 original miles!
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Building 430 HP 350 (ZZ430)
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myposcamaro

kicker is a great company, i cant understand this. My clarion was doing the same thing too. I went back and checked all the wiring, EVERYTHING. Turns out (so i think), that it was one of the 'gold-plated' ends of my 'inline converter' were touching.. which im guessing made the amp work harder and just cut out.

Quite frustrating.. hope lady luck swings by your way.

kev

JP84Z430HP

I am a big fan of Kicker. This will be my third or fourth car with all Kicker speaker, and the second with all Kicker amps also. I typically love their stuff, but this DX700 is just not kicking!

Unfortunately, I don't have anything inline like that, I just wish it were that easy! The only thing I have in there is the Kicker SWX crossover module that comes with the amp, and we even changed that with the last amp. I hope Kicker looks at it and can tell me what is going wrong!

Thanks for the reply!

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Working on:
'84 Z28 LG4 305 with 200,000 original miles!
Added dual elec fans.
145 MPH IROC Speedo
Building 430 HP 350 (ZZ430)
using primarily GMPP parts.
Short block sitting on a stand.

Starting to look like the Kicker poster child!

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KlayBuRn

Kicker....HaHa

Polecat

JP84Z430HP,
Sorry to hear about your problem. Send it in and I'm sure our warranty tech's will take care of you. Or if you want, send it in and call lance at ext.218 about it.
Tell him Tracy sent you..........

JP84Z430HP

Thanks Polecat!
It is already on it's way! I took it back to the dealer that I bought it from Sat. and they said they would get it out for me. I may make the call next week sometime, and maybe get some ideas of what could be wrong with the setup, if anything.

I just dread being without my amp for the month or so that my dealer said to expect.

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Working on:
'84 Z28 LG4 305 with 200,000 original miles!
Added dual elec fans.
145 MPH IROC Speedo
Building 430 HP 350 (ZZ430)
using primarily GMPP parts.
Short block sitting on a stand.

Starting to look like the Kicker poster child!

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pookey

I also have an amp and a kicker (ha ha I said kicker) but not getting anything out of the left side for some reason. Haven't investigated to deep yet. Any advice will help.

GndPrx

Sorry to hear you are having problems with Kicker stuff. I have never had any problems except with their solo subs.

I personally have a 1252ix running a pair of old c10's and have never had problem one with any of it. Usually their amp lines are bullet proof.

Good luck and I hope they take care of you. (*ahem*...Polecat )

Carl
CarAudio Resources
http://www.caraudioresources.net

Polecat

If the dealer told you a month, he is way off or setting your amp out back on a bench. EVERY amp we have come in has a 48 hour turn-around policy. If it comes in today, it's out in 2 days unless we need to contact the dealer or person. Some dealers hold stuff for a week or so, to send as much back at once. I understand that since they have to pay freight to us, but I totally disagree to making the customer wait longer than needs too. Call the dealer, if he hasn't sent it, ask him to to expedite it, and that you know of the 48 hour turn around, or send it in yourself.
Any amp, even if it is out of warranty, can be fixed. there may be a cost. I saw posted somewhere a kid had one out of warranty by 2 years, and had a problem. He thought about selling it on Ebay for $100 or so. Found out after he sent it in anyway, he got it fixed for $46.00. So he saved alot!!
Worth a try. If you have any questions, please feel free to email me anytime and I will do what I can.

KlayBuRn

Kicker...HaHaHaHa

Polecat

Dude you really got to sober up.......

KlayBuRn

sober or not, Kicker still makes me laugh =)

Polecat

good, glad we please you too.

myposcamaro

klayburn..

something funny? Kicker is quality, why are you laughing? All their stuff has never let me or probably half the people on this board down.. you probably cant afford their stuff.. the only thing you might have goin for you is that you drive a 3rd gen.. so like polecat said.. sober up.. we're tryin to help someone out

kev

Polecat

Well said Kev, we try to help someone out, and someone comes in stomping mud on the carpet.

KlayBuRn

yea, i can afford better, its called Fosgate, my friend has a Kicker Solo ran by a Kicker 550 or something, and my Pioneer GM-X922 ran a 12' Earthquake HP (300 RMS), and it sounded better than that Solo did...I dont base any of my opinions unless I've heard them...another friend had 2 12' Kicker Comps in his car, and pushed by some Kicker amp, and he sold those and bought some pioneer premier subs and liked those a lot better...i know Kicker is ghetto or generic, but all i have seen people experiences with them has been nothing fun, i have been running premier and fosgate since day one, never had any problems, and am a satisfied customer...

also added to the equipment ive had that blows, jensen, kenwood, and Crossfire amps...

myposcamaro

for the benefit of everyone...

please disregard the above post.

kev

KlayBuRn

ok, what was the point of that?

myposcamaro

well the point was to benefit everyone...

it would benefit you becuz everyone wouldnt think your a moron if they disregard the post all together..

and it would benefit everyone else becuz they wouldnt listen to your post..

kev

Polecat

I don't like to do name bashing, but one day you'll step up. I like Rockford to some degree, I have alot of repsect for the company.
If a person has Solobarics, they have to be installed properly and have the amp to push them properly, as well as nay speaker. if you have solo's and but a BOSS amp to them, yea, they will sound like crap. But do any system correctly, and it will sound like you want it too.

But this post was about getting someone else taken care of. if you have something else to add, do it somewhere else, or you won't gain much respect around here. And I might add, you look like your off on a bad foot already.

I will try to help anyone I can, that acts like they really want help.
You are given the right to have your own opinion,so does everyone else.

KlayBuRn

Polecat, i agree with your theory on the runing of speakers, ive been into car stereos for a long time, my mom has always had a car stereo, and i learned half my stuff off her, my brother has always had a car stereo, and that makes it even better, ive had systems in my car since ive been driving, so i do know what im talking about...but i dont even care anymore...the main point is, i said they was running kicker speakers, and kicker amps, not a boss amp...if you had god equipment, then throw something ****ty in, its gonna be ****ty, you buy ****ty equipment, you get ****ty sound...

Polecat

So who's been showing mom how to install?

There is no Kicker 550.(?)
If you don't like our gear,fine,go use Pioneer for goodness sakes.

And until "god" himself makes stereo gear, we are all stuck with something, right?

Jeeezze. To each his own I guess.


[This message has been edited by Polecat (edited February 28, 2001).]

85ws6TA

thats strange, my sister's 12" kickers hit arround 125db and she is only running 250 watts to each one. and they sound as good now as the day she bought them. lets get real, Rockford, really blows. pretty much anything that is sold at best-buy either blows or is overpriced. (minus clarion and alpine) EVERY Fosgate system ive heard made me thankful i didnt buy thier crap. thier old stuff was great great stuff, but post best-buy era, i think thier in it for the money, not quality. i have always been very impressed with kicker systems. ive never heard a bad one. i think there is better (Eclipse subs, mtx amps, mb quart full/mid range) but i think kicker is a great value. and i think your probably out numbered on your point of view KlayBuRn, but hey we have diffrent opinions.

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1985 WS6 Trans AM
T-tops
bone stock sloth of an engine LG4
T-5 tranny. thank god, i couldnt stand an LG4 auto.
Plans for an LT-1 or LT-4,
dual flowmaster exaust,
& a pounding stereo.
mods right now include a radar detector.

zerogauge

125db!? Thats all with them getting 250 watts rms? I hit 136.8 with 2 - 12 JLW6's and a kenwood x201 thats giving them maybe like 150 rms....

KlayBuRn

yea, hmmm...my 2 15' 250 watt RMS Rockford Fosgate Punch XLC's, powered by my Fosgate amp 800a2, hits 146.3 DB's...

myposcamaro

im willing to bet those 15"s sound like **** too. Klayburn, god forbid you ever need help with you 3rd gen stereo cuz with the amount of respect (or lack of) that you already have on this board... i dont care if your hittin 200 dB.. you aint gettin any help.

true about the opinion stuff, we're all entitled. But when someone needs help, not opinion... try keepin your mouth shut

kev

p.s. XLC's arent even that great

KlayBuRn

uh ok whatever...

85ws6TA

im talking about a saturn, not an F-body

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1985 WS6 Trans AM
T-tops
bone stock sloth of an engine LG4
T-5 tranny. thank god, i couldnt stand an LG4 auto.
Plans for an LT-1 or LT-4,
dual flowmaster exaust,
& a pounding stereo.
mods right now include a radar detector.

85ws6TA

ya know theres a seat and metal divider and **** in the way of the sound, man you sure arent intelligent...
oh and i just checked her amp box and i farked up. the 250 watts is mono 4ohm to one channel. its 100 watts to 2 4ohm channel. so 200 watts total gave her 125. (was actually 125.3 but i figgure .3 isnt much more) and it geared twords Sound quality, not db. she didnt want to do it but i stole her car and wen to see what it did, to see if my 10 in my vette was louder. unfortunatly i never rated my vette but i figgure it was arround 130s (150watt bridged jensen into cerwin 10") it did so wicked because of the small Airspace of the the corvette (the dash was about 3-4ft from the sub, plus the rear glass dosent hurt either.
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1985 WS6 Trans AM
T-tops
bone stock sloth of an engine LG4
T-5 tranny. thank god, i couldnt stand an LG4 auto.
Plans for an LT-1 or LT-4,
dual flowmaster exaust,
& a pounding stereo.
mods right now include a radar detector.

[This message has been edited by 85ws6TA (edited February 28, 2001).]

KlayBuRn

yea well i never had any problems with my 2 12 inch Earthquake HP's, being pushed by a Pioneer 300 RMS amp, in my topaz with a metal divider and my backseats, still hit 137.1

85ws6TA

ok, lets whip out the measureing tape, ill go check the space of my sisters car you go check a topaz. then we can figgure out why you got 12more db with 150 more watts... oh wait you had more power... compareing two diffrent cars with diffrent subs and amps and components, and blah blah blah... the trunk are diffrent, the seats are diffrent, the metal is diffrent. there are too many variables to compare here. im not sure why you posted it.

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1985 WS6 Trans AM
T-tops
bone stock sloth of an engine LG4
T-5 tranny. thank god, i couldnt stand an LG4 auto.
Plans for an LT-1 or LT-4,
dual flowmaster exaust,
& a pounding stereo.
mods right now include a radar detector.

KlayBuRn

ok 85ws6TA
pertaining to your last post...

compareing two diffrent cars with diffrent subs and amps and components, and blah blah blah... the trunk are diffrent, the seats are diffrent, the metal is diffrent. there are too many variables to compare here. im not sure why you posted it.

then why did you say this stuff ?

im talking about a saturn, not an F-body...

well whats the difference between a saturn and a f-body then?

and....

ya know theres a seat and metal divider and **** in the way of the sound, man you sure arent intelligent...

well why did you post all that then ?

85ws6TA

ok read slow.... an F-body is a hatchback, i know i said the H-word, im sorry. this means that sound can freely flow from the rear of the car to the rest of the vehicle. the whole well is great for subs because as Jim put it, it is designed like a horn to make the bass louder.

the reason i said "is a saturn not an F-body" is to show that it got 125 in a trunk-style car. you were comparing your top DBs in your HATCHBACK to her saturn with a TRUNK. if i dropped her subs in my car i wouldnt doubt i could get into late 130s. exactly how it is. (including her pioneer deck with a box that would fit in the well with the same airspace so the subs worked the same.) personally i think thats pretty damn good for 200 Total watts 2 2 12s. although i am completly guessing.

i think you need to learn a bit more and take a diffrent look at sound systems before you go ripping apart peoples choices. Ever hear of Focal? i doubt it. research em. they may have the best line of components on the market. i have a friend who bought a pair that, if i remember correctly, cost him $700 for a 5.25" and a 2" tweeter. and you may say thats a rip off, but he can hear the diffrence, and he swears by em

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1985 WS6 Trans AM
T-tops
bone stock sloth of an engine LG4
T-5 tranny. thank god, i couldnt stand an LG4 auto.
Plans for an LT-1 or LT-4,
dual flowmaster exaust,
& a pounding stereo.
mods right now include a radar detector.

zerogauge

damn i didnt mean to start a war. regardless of the car(most cases not all) 2 kicker 12's with 250 watts a piece is going to hit harder than 125db. this is assuming its a good box and all. the assumption is because it was even taken to a competition. you said you misread the amp, and with the new wattage your talking, im feeling 125 is ok.

thank you for the clarification. =)

85ws6TA

yes i sat there thinkging, "i thought she had a fairly weak amp, not a 500 watt one..."
so i went out to the garage, found the box, and started laughing. it made alot more sense to me too.

oh and i didnt take it to a comp. just to a sound place who has a mic. oh and her box sucks ***** too. it works but i know its not right for the subs. she got it for $20 at some wherhouse in the ghetto. i keep tellin her to get a better one but it works for her.
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1985 WS6 Trans AM
T-tops
bone stock sloth of an engine LG4
T-5 tranny. thank god, i couldnt stand an LG4 auto.
Plans for an LT-1 or LT-4,
dual flowmaster exaust,
& a pounding stereo.
mods right now include a radar detector.

[This message has been edited by 85ws6TA (edited February 28, 2001).]

JP84Z430HP

Ok, I would like to say a few things as the starter of this thread. My reply will probably get the thread closed!

First and foremost, I would like to thank the people that had helpful replies (Polecat especially) without putting down my personal preference.

Secondly, Klayburn, Have you priced Kicker products? They are in the same price range as Fosgate. I ran Fosgate amps with my Kicker speakers before Kicker started making amps. I just have reasons for not liking Fosgate AS WELL as Kicker. If I was looking for something cheap, I would've gone with Kicker Impulse, or Jensen, or something geared for the people that don't want to spend a lot.

Thirdly, Klayburn (again). I think we all got the idea that you don't like Kicker after your first reply, I don't understand your need to keep going with it. I hope for your sake that everyone forgets the things you've said here, and the way you said them, if the day comes that you need help (although I doubt you ever will, you sound to be an expert!)

Finally, a question for you Klayburn.....Do you have a Mitsubishi engine in your f-body? Your attitude seems to be right in line with the ricers that I have met that think that there is nothing better out there than what they have. Hate to break the news, but there's always something better out there!

I'll shut up now!!!

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Working on:
'84 Z28 LG4 305 with 200,000 original miles!
Added dual elec fans.
145 MPH IROC Speedo
Building 430 HP 350 (ZZ430)
using primarily GMPP parts.
Short block sitting on a stand.

Starting to look like the Kicker poster child!

ASE Certified Master Tech

[This message has been edited by JP84Z430HP (edited February 28, 2001).]

85ws6TA

preach on brothaman!

i 100% agree. you cant insult someone because of thier opinon. and you can say that thier stuff sucks if you havent heard it. and if it sounds good to them, what the hell do you care? it seems like your trying to sound very educated about sound engineering, dont get me wrong, im no expert. but i have learned alot about systems through personal experience and this board. alot of that i owe the Jim85IROC, who happens to be highly educated in eletronic crap, (thats the technical term right?) well ill quit ranting now, but klayburn, serious, dont be so judgemental.

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1985 WS6 Trans AM
T-tops
bone stock sloth of an engine LG4
T-5 tranny. thank god, i couldnt stand an LG4 auto.
Plans for an LT-1 or LT-4,
dual flowmaster exaust,
& a pounding stereo.
mods right now include a radar detector.

JP84Z430HP

One more thing, I have been told by a couple dealers that they send back substantially more Fosgate amps and speakers than they do Kicker.

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Working on:
'84 Z28 LG4 305 with 200,000 original miles!
Added dual elec fans.
145 MPH IROC Speedo
Building 430 HP 350 (ZZ430)
using primarily GMPP parts.
Short block sitting on a stand.

Starting to look like the Kicker poster child!

ASE Certified Master Tech

85ws6TA

comomn lets not be petty with facts...

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1985 WS6 Trans AM
T-tops
bone stock sloth of an engine LG4
T-5 tranny. thank god, i couldnt stand an LG4 auto.
Plans for an LT-1 or LT-4,
dual flowmaster exaust,
& a pounding stereo.
mods right now include a radar detector.

[This message has been edited by 85ws6TA (edited February 28, 2001).]

JP84Z430HP

Sorry WS, I was just quite upset about having my opinion of what equipment I like bashed. I was just stating some facts to back up my reasoning for liking Kicker.

I will refrain from anymore comments in this thread unless they are directly related to my problem, and I would appreciate the same from everyone else.

As a final comment, I was just trying to get some help, and now I feel offended. This web site hasn't gotten to where it is by people acting the way they have in this post, nor will it continue to grow with people acting that way.

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Working on:
'84 Z28 LG4 305 with 200,000 original miles!
Added dual elec fans.
145 MPH IROC Speedo
Building 430 HP 350 (ZZ430)
using primarily GMPP parts.
Short block sitting on a stand.

Starting to look like the Kicker poster child!

ASE Certified Master Tech

[This message has been edited by JP84Z430HP (edited March 01, 2001).]

85ws6TA

i completely agree with everything above ^

Polecat

JP84Z430HP,
If you need anything, email me!

later guys!

zerogauge

polecat id like a kicker ZR600 for $200 please
*grin*

Polecat

But santa told me you were bad all year!

zerogauge

well ****.

myposcamaro

$200??? i was thinkin more along the lines of $50... c'mon polecat, pull some strings for me!

kev

Polecat

$50..........ouch......................

JP84Z430HP

Hey Polecat...
What's the word on the DX1400 amps?
I think one of those on my S12L7 would be awesome. Although I'd have to get a new sub to utilize it at 1 ohm as it is rated.....

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Working on:
'84 Z28 LG4 305 with 200,000 original miles!
Added dual elec fans.
145 MPH IROC Speedo
Building 430 HP 350 (ZZ430)
using primarily GMPP parts.
Short block sitting on a stand.

Starting to look like the Kicker poster child!

ASE Certified Master Tech

Polecat

We are hoping the DX1400 get's released in January WCES.........there's alot of meat in that bad boy of an amp.

I'll keep you posted.

JP84Z430HP

Ok, I got the amp back today, and so far it sounds great. The repair sheet said something about replacing an IC chip, an the next line says "revised". I'm guessing that there is some kind of revision that has been made to the amp that they performed on mine?

I noticed a problem though, and I had posted about this before, but now I have more detail.

I have my 4 ga. power wire running through the same hole that my antenna runs, and the radio reception sucks! When the DX700 was out for repair, things were pretty decent (4 ga. goes back to the dist block, then 2 8 ga. wires going to the 700, and 1 8 ga. for each ZR240. Now that I put the 700 back in, the reception is back in the toilet.
Any ideas?



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Working on:
'84 Z28 LG4 305 with 200,000 original miles!
Added dual elec fans.
145 MPH IROC Speedo
Building 430 HP 350 (ZZ430)
using primarily GMPP parts.
Short block sitting on a stand.

Starting to look like the Kicker poster child!

ASE Certified Master Tech