Firechicken86

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I'm thinking about upgrading my subs to a more bigger setup but unfortunately do not know a whole lot about subs and amp on the more technical part of things . I've heard really good things about these subs http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...****-122X.html and decided I'm going to get two of those. For the amp I came across two different ones: http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...MF2000-1D.html and http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...FQ5mhwodiTtudQ would one of these two be a suitable amp for two of those subs?

88TransAmGuy

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The bamf would. I dont think theres anyway that a power acoustik is gonna RMS at 1500 W,just my opinion.Out of a 12 youre probably looking at 500-800 Watts. For the subs anything 1000W and higher will work fine.it doesnt have to be the same brand either. Crunch amps are VERY nice. Out of all the amps ive had thats the best one for the price. And if you run the subs 2 ohm,you wont be getting the max wattage out of them.Since its tuned so low,youll be getting more of the deep tones and vibration rather than power.Thats what i prefer and i LOVE it. I ran 4-8 ohm before and it had power but didnt sound half as good as subs tuned to 2. So pretty much any amp that is 1500-2000 wattage will be fine.

Firechicken86

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Okay perfect! now my next question is, would I be able to run two of those subs off of that amp?

88TransAmGuy

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Yes. The only thing i dont like about it is that its a mono block,so youll only get a frequency from half the song.Its hard to explain

one92rs

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i never did like the peak power ratings. for 90% of the time they are bs. remember peak power is what a piece of equipment got close to (maybe) for 1 second. shop for equipment using rms power only. since the amps are digital they should work really well. here is a link about hooking them up.
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-h0kCQjp...amp_guide.html

Firechicken86

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Hmmm, now I'm having second thoughts about those amps. Does anyone have any they would recommend for those subs?

88TransAmGuy

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The same as me.A Crunch. Theyre great.Or a soundstream

Firechicken86

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How about this one? http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...PZA2000.1.html

88TransAmGuy

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Thats ok but its a Mono block

fadedirocz28

Should you really be trying to have your subwoofers play frequencies your mids should be playing though? monoblocks are fine, they don't need to see 20khz because your subwoofer shouldn't really be playing anything over 120hz or so anyway.

Crunch is ok, not great but ok. I believe they're made by maxxsonics, which also makes the newer lower quality mb quart/hifonics gear.

Do yourself a favor and just get 2 JBL GTO's, and a kicker zx amp near the power to push em.

Or get 2 tidal audio ref 12's, They're reconed Image dynamic 12's, Half the price of the real thing but the same woofer. Only thing with the tidals though is they can dig deep to 20hz without a problem, So make sure whatever amp u buy if you get them, doesn't limit you to 30hz as the lowest cutoff

This is all just opinion.

dcil

Don't get the ****'s. Mono block has a "mono" signal, not half of the signal. You get what you pay for, to a point. If you want true power, expect to pay around 40-50 cents per watt. Cheaper amps will say 2000 watts, when in most cases when clamped will have around 300 or 400. Still good power for the money, but not what they advertise.

dcil

Agreed, mostly. Only thing is in a camaro, there isnt enough room for 2 twelves to perform EFFECTIVELY at 20 hz, 30 is a stretch. It'll play it, it just wont be happy about it. There again, most music, even rap and a lot of bass music, doesn't dip much below mid 30's

dcil

Max power is rated at a specific frequency for a specific amount of time on a specific load. The key is HOW it is checked

Firechicken86

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I'm pretty set on the *****, the ratings for them have been nearly 5 stars on multiple websites. Here's more specs from the manufacturers website: http://www.poweracoustik.com/pa2011/subs-****-122X.html

fadedirocz28

Looked around some audio forums for you, instead of just reading reviews on crutchfield or sonicelectronix, which are usually wrong.

The general consensus is, They're overrated for power, they CAN get loudish, but it wont sound good. One guy said "if you expect anything remotely close to music to come out of this sub, you'll be disappointed"

Firechicken86

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I stand corrected

stringbean

I would recommend 2 alpine r type 12s there priced about the same at around 125 each rated at 500 rms each and will take a little bit more. The reason that i suggest that sub is because they will work well in a small box around .75 cu ft each. As for a amp a kicker zx1000.1 is a great amp for the price and is the perfect size the subs.

Firechicken86

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I was looking at those too and they seem really good. I also came across the kicker CompVR's http://www.kicker.com/compvr and those seem really god for their price range.

highgear

I run a Power Acoustic P3 15. Got a Boss 3500 chaos amp. Class d mono block. The amp more than enoigh power. And it pounds. You can pick up a P3 on amazon for about $80. Really has clear crisp bass. Look for a 2ohm DVC. That way you can wire it at 4 ohm to a monoblock. The amp wont have to work hard and you get a clear sound. If you just lookin to be loud. Wire it to 1ohm. You have to decide if you want clarity or sound pressure level.

dcil

At the shop I work at we sell kicker and memphis. The comp vr is a descent sub, but from experience the alpine type r's will slaughter them. If you go kicker, I'd go with a single L5 10 in a ported box, tuned around 38hz. Whatever you chose, go single 10 or 12, in a ported box. Output will be substantially more than 2 in a sealed box. There isn't enough room to properly use a 15.

I have a "scrap" system in my car right now. Made up of leftover stuff that has been sittin in storage. I have a very old 10 in a ported box with a cheap amp. Hits really good for junk.

That bein said, if you go with a single sub.ported box, let me know what you use and your air space and I'll get you your port size and length if you want.

dcil

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...o-SEX12D2.html
These things do pretty good also.
http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...I-S550.1D.html

stringbean

I have personally heard 2 alpine r types in a Camaro and they have very clean tight bass and are fairly loud. If you want to go with only 1 10 or 12 the best that i have found is the rockford t1 series of subs they are shallow enough to mount in the trunk area of our cars but are a amazing sub. I have one of these subs in a 1.65 cu ft box powered by a kicker zx750.1 and it is just as loud as 2 r types but there is only enough air space for one sub to truly perform in our cars.