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Old 04-28-2009 | 04:32 PM
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Flip Screen Bypass Questions

I have a Pioneer AVH-P5000DVD for my KARR and I was wondering if anyone has bypassed the parking brake safety feature. I'm NOT planning on watching DVD's while I drive, but I want to be able to play DVD's while the car is at shows. I don't want to have to lift up my parking brake though. I read somewhere about connecting the wires to a ground source, but I'm not sure that would work. Does anyone have suggestions on this?

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Old 04-28-2009 | 06:04 PM
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Check this out.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_do_you...ash_DVD_player

Maybe you could wire it up so it only works when the trans is in park?

Check your manual to see which switching mechanism is used on your DVD player.
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Check this out.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_do_you...ash_DVD_player

Maybe you could wire it up so it only works when the trans is in park?

Check your manual to see which switching mechanism is used on your DVD player.
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some states its illegal to do that
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some states its illegal to do that
so is my 1983 Pontiac Trans Am it is killing the polar bears

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Old 04-29-2009 | 10:11 AM
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There is a way to connect the e brake cable and still watch the movie. When I did this on my cougar i ran the e brake cable (pink) to the e-brake signal line. then there is a code you have to enter to override the e-break. its in a backup menu. i can look around and get the code for you and directions on how to do it.
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There is a way to connect the e brake cable and still watch the movie. When I did this on my cougar i ran the e brake cable (pink) to the e-brake signal line. then there is a code you have to enter to override the e-break. its in a backup menu. i can look around and get the code for you and directions on how to do it.
thanks, I have a Pioneer AVH-P5000DVD and please let me what you find out
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here is a switch route you can take...go buy a toggle switch from autozone checkers or your local radio shack. it just has to be a 2 prong toggle or push button. all you do is connect one of the pins to the green wire that you are supposed to connect the emergency brake and the other pin to a ground. As soon as the "Don't drive while in motion....." screen comes up....just click the button once.

I am still looking for a code to where you connect it to the actual e-brake and then just bypass it but for now this is one way.. keep me posted if it works for you. I will keep looking. Just be careful!!
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Originally Posted by 91ZRocker!
here is a switch route you can take...go buy a toggle switch from autozone checkers or your local radio shack. it just has to be a 2 prong toggle or push button. all you do is connect one of the pins to the green wire that you are supposed to connect the emergency brake and the other pin to a ground. As soon as the "Don't drive while in motion....." screen comes up....just click the button once.

I am still looking for a code to where you connect it to the actual e-brake and then just bypass it but for now this is one way.. keep me posted if it works for you. I will keep looking. Just be careful!!

thanks I can use some knight rider buttons, but if you find the bypass code please let me know.
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Old 05-16-2009 | 01:59 PM
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If you want to bypass the e-brake so you can watch a dvd when you want, all you have to do is ground the e-brake wire on your radio. Attatch the e-brake wire on the radio straight to ground and tape it up. No switches needed. This will allow you to watch a dvd whenever you want. This is what I did to the panasonic tv I have in my other car.
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If you want to bypass the e-brake so you can watch a dvd when you want, all you have to do is ground the e-brake wire on your radio. Attatch the e-brake wire on the radio straight to ground and tape it up. No switches needed. This will allow you to watch a dvd whenever you want. This is what I did to the panasonic tv I have in my other car.
can you post photos of this radio that you installed?
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Step one> Simply take out your head unit

Step two> connect the parking break wire to one end to toggle switch,

Step three> connect other end to vehile ground or black wire...,

Step four> mount switch easy to access location and you are done.

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Step one> Simply take out your head unit

Step two> connect the parking break wire to one end to toggle switch,

Step three> connect other end to vehile ground or black wire...,

Step four> mount switch easy to access location and you are done.

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I did this two years ago in my 05 impala and all you have to do is ground the wire. I had to run a toggle switch because if the radio was ever reset you had to un ground it then reground. Just run the wire to a toggle switch and if it doesnt let you watch a video then flip the switch off and back on.
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I recently did this with my stereo, I just grounded the wire that was supposed to hook up to the e-brake. I had issues after I installed the head unit and an amp of my battery going dead after a few days. I rechecked everything I knew of and the grounding the ebrake wire was the only thing I could think of that wasn't wired to manufacturer's specs. Do you think that could cause the battery drain?
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Re: Flip Screen Bypass Questions

Originally Posted by jermdm
If you want to bypass the e-brake so you can watch a dvd when you want, all you have to do is ground the e-brake wire on your radio. Attatch the e-brake wire on the radio straight to ground and tape it up. No switches needed. This will allow you to watch a dvd whenever you want. This is what I did to the panasonic tv I have in my other car.
This is all you have to do to watch DVD's whenever. I did mine that way also. I have a Valor touchscreen.

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I recently did this with my stereo, I just grounded the wire that was supposed to hook up to the e-brake. I had issues after I installed the head unit and an amp of my battery going dead after a few days. I rechecked everything I knew of and the grounding the ebrake wire was the only thing I could think of that wasn't wired to manufacturer's specs. Do you think that could cause the battery drain?
No

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can you post photos of this radio that you installed?
Here are a couple pics of the tv/dvd player in my other car that I did a e-brake wire straight to ground with no switches. Never had a problem with it since I did the install about a year ago.
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Old 09-30-2009 | 04:13 PM
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Try here.
http://avic411.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16629
this is supposed to work on all newer Pioneer radios.
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im pretty sure u jus connect the wire to ground and itll work. my flip has actually a code u put in with the remote in the options screen and it brings up a secret screen. type in ur model and search for a bypass code on google
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Just ground the wire going to the parking brake.
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i found these on egay

http://cgi.ebay.com/PIONEER-VIDEO-BY...d=200366161717

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA:IT&ih=013
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Go with a PAC TR7 to over ride the parking cable. Many headunit you can over ride with a code or grounding the parking brake cable. Anyone that tries using the switches has got to be a hack. That would look so stupid to flip switches to make your headunit video work.

I know I'll get flamed for saying this, but the switches technique is for the noobs. Headunits have that parking brake safety device for legal reasons but can always, I mean ALWAYS, be bypassed.

Many people buy after market equiptment for marine usage. Where is the parking brake on a boat?
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Go with a PAC TR7 to over ride the parking cable. Many headunit you can over ride with a code or grounding the parking brake cable. Anyone that tries using the switches has got to be a hack. That would look so stupid to flip switches to make your headunit video work.

I know I'll get flamed for saying this, but the switches technique is for the noobs. Headunits have that parking brake safety device for legal reasons but can always, I mean ALWAYS, be bypassed.

Many people buy after market equiptment for marine usage. Where is the parking brake on a boat?
which one of the links is the PAC PR7? they dont say pac PR7 anywhere

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i just got the flip screen bypass
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Ok guys im not "supposed" to reveal this info due to me being a Car Audio installer but if you want to bypass the brake wire on ANY screen just ground it to the ground wire.

Now on most alpinse screens you still have to hook up the foot brake wire but there is a sequence that you do to bypass those
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Ok guys im not "supposed" to reveal this info due to me being a Car Audio installer
Why, are installers like a secret society, like the Masons or something?
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lol and the information given wasn't even true...
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I have a feeling deadd works at best buy or a hack up shop! Not only was the info untrue, because it only works for a few units, but the foot brake on the alpines doesn't have to be connected. Cheap headunits can be bypassed by grounding but those units are sold at fry's, best buy, and other cheap car audio places.

Once again, where is the footbrake on a boat?

If you are going to give technical advice and say that you are a professional, at least give good advice, otherwise shut up.

I forgot about this thread and I'm sorry. The Tr7 I was referring to is like this.

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_5257_PAC+TR-7.html

The Tr7 has been around for quite a few years now and is used to pulse a signal so you don't need to hookup the safety devices to make your video work. Further more, if anyone takes the advice of deadd or any other "installer" that can't tell you how it's done because of his "profession", please ignore the wannabe and get advice from someone who knows.

I guess deadd's grounding method would work on the new Pioneers with a gyro receiver? LOL, so grounding the input would make the headunit think the car isn't moving? Durrr, go back to best buy and install some more Jensens and Duals!
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KITT1983, trying searching google and see if there is an internal parking brake override.

I have a Jensen VM9512 in my car and there is a secret menu that can only be accessed by a sequence on the remote. Within this menu, there are many options and tests not intended to be available to the consumer. One of these options is the parking brake override. This electronically disables the parking brake feature.

I enabled it a few days after buying the stereo and just capped the parking brake wire. I don't watch DVD's while I drive but sometimes it keeps the passengers entertained. Yes I am aware that is illegal and that is why I will see the cop before he sees me because I am the one that has my eyes on the road.
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Originally Posted by all4u
I have a feeling deadd works at best buy or a hack up shop! Not only was the info untrue, because it only works for a few units, but the foot brake on the alpines doesn't have to be connected. Cheap headunits can be bypassed by grounding but those units are sold at fry's, best buy, and other cheap car audio places.

Once again, where is the footbrake on a boat?

If you are going to give technical advice and say that you are a professional, at least give good advice, otherwise shut up.

I forgot about this thread and I'm sorry. The Tr7 I was referring to is like this.

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_5257_PAC+TR-7.html

The Tr7 has been around for quite a few years now and is used to pulse a signal so you don't need to hookup the safety devices to make your video work. Further more, if anyone takes the advice of deadd or any other "installer" that can't tell you how it's done because of his "profession", please ignore the wannabe and get advice from someone who knows.

I guess deadd's grounding method would work on the new Pioneers with a gyro receiver? LOL, so grounding the input would make the headunit think the car isn't moving? Durrr, go back to best buy and install some more Jensens and Duals!
the TR7 wont work on a pioneer only alpine

I bought this one though

http://cgi.ebay.com/PIONEER-AUTOMATI...%3D5%26ps%3D63


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Tr7 could work but you would have to program it. It wouldn't work with the pioneers that have a gyro but it would work with anything that needs a pulse. I think you put the switch to the number three position on the tr7, and program for the pulses and then for it to see a constant ground, I'd have to check, it's been a while.

I'm glad everything worked out but once again, don't listen to the "secret society of installers" because they are out to get your money and stereo isn't really that difficult. While deadd wasn't out for anyone's money, he reminds me off the amateurs that try to act like they are professionals. People like this rub me the wrong way.
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All4u,

I can say I am a licensed tech and yes I do work for bestbuy and Ive been installing in the field for 10+ yrs.I can say legally depending where you are,as a licensed tech your not supposed to give a step by step how to of making such devices work in an illegal way.If..and a big "if" your caught doing so..you might lose your license.I dont see that happening without major proof lol.

Moving along, alot of information above is right and wrong.Most older and cheaper units do work with the grounding of the parking brake wire.Most older pioneers used to do this and then were changed to advanced bypasses "gyro".Even if you had done the ground wire or a switch..once the car started moving above a certain speed...it would still shut the video off and only play sound.

I suggest for the tried and true bypasses on the nwere style pioneers to simply look it up on avic411.Dont waste your money on the $50 dollar ebay timer modules when you can simply do it yourself easily by following instructions there. Either a simple re-pin or a relay triggered by remote wire and your on your way without worrying about having to unground a wire if the battery goes dead

Secondly with alpines everyone by now knows about the tr7 which is designed for this purpose first and foremost..you can use an other decks if you wish as a latching timer output by reprogramming it and connecting the proper wires accordingly.If you dont want to use the tr7 method..you can hardwire a bypass aswell with 2 switches and 2 relays to do the sequence required..and yes you must do it in proper sequence with the brake and ebrake wires connected for the bypass to work on alpines.There is no simple grounding or not connecting the other wire.

Ive done all of these many times and I could tell you all the do's and donts for this stuff.I dont call myself a professional..just mearly an experienced installer with a legal piece of paper stating so.**Do these at your own risk** as your all aware,its only illegal if you get caught..if you are caught..I hope you were smart enough to have a master kill switch nicely hidden.Anyone willing to do this for you will not acknowledge they did for it after this point,its your vehicle..your responsibility as far as Im concerned.
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All4u,

I can say I am a licensed tech and yes I do work for bestbuy and Ive been installing in the field for 10+ yrs.I can say legally depending where you are,as a licensed tech your not supposed to give a step by step how to of making such devices work in an illegal way.If..and a big "if" your caught doing so..you might lose your license.I dont see that happening without major proof lol.

Moving along, alot of information above is right and wrong.Most older and cheaper units do work with the grounding of the parking brake wire.Most older pioneers used to do this and then were changed to advanced bypasses "gyro".Even if you had done the ground wire or a switch..once the car started moving above a certain speed...it would still shut the video off and only play sound.

I suggest for the tried and true bypasses on the nwere style pioneers to simply look it up on avic411.Dont waste your money on the $50 dollar ebay timer modules when you can simply do it yourself easily by following instructions there. Either a simple re-pin or a relay triggered by remote wire and your on your way without worrying about having to unground a wire if the battery goes dead

Secondly with alpines everyone by now knows about the tr7 which is designed for this purpose first and foremost..you can use an other decks if you wish as a latching timer output by reprogramming it and connecting the proper wires accordingly.If you dont want to use the tr7 method..you can hardwire a bypass aswell with 2 switches and 2 relays to do the sequence required..and yes you must do it in proper sequence with the brake and ebrake wires connected for the bypass to work on alpines.There is no simple grounding or not connecting the other wire.

Ive done all of these many times and I could tell you all the do's and donts for this stuff.I dont call myself a professional..just mearly an experienced installer with a legal piece of paper stating so.**Do these at your own risk** as your all aware,its only illegal if you get caught..if you are caught..I hope you were smart enough to have a master kill switch nicely hidden.Anyone willing to do this for you will not acknowledge they did for it after this point,its your vehicle..your responsibility as far as Im concerned.
can you show me the bypass module without all the BS reprogramming?
Is this the bypass you were talking about?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8HCcNy9QQQ

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Re: Flip Screen Bypass Questions

Something tells me you answered your own question my friend.Enjoy lol Gotta love the vast information you find with a search on the net.
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if your pioneer is not a nav unit you can use a relay tthat you can pick up at any parts store about ten bucks its a 5 pole single throw 30 amp the same that is used for adding fog lamps.use the amp remote wire and go to pole 86 ground 85 and 30 take the ebrake wire from the head unit which is green and go to 87a this will trigger the ebrake wire evrytime turn the radio on and will allow you to watch dvds in motion
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Re: Flip Screen Bypass Questions

all the wire looks for is a ground , i used a simple toggle switch and you throw the switch twice and then the dvd part will play ...this is with a brand new clarion i have in my truck ..
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Re: Flip Screen Bypass Questions

I think the switch idea is dumb. You should only have one kill switch to cut the ground and there fore make it seem you can't watch video while driving. Throwing two switches everytime you start your car is too much of a hassle, and I think it looks ghetto-ized. The tr7 is probably about 5 bucks from your local audio shop and is easier for someone to install. It also takes less time and you can leave it connected so if you switch cars, all you do is switch headunits and that's it! You don't have to install switches in the new vehicle.

As far as if it's legal, I do alot of installs on boats, and there is no legal issues there. Tell me where the parking brake is on a boat? The bypasses for a boat are the same as a car and can be used the same.

As far as the Pioneer with the gyro, it too can be bypassed, but it's description gets off the point of this thread. If you know what you are doing and have a soldering iron, and know how to open a headunit, you can take out the gyro completely but if you screw up something, your warranty will be void.

I'd go with the TR7, it's cheaper than the two switches and wiring you want to buy, it's easier to hookup, takes less time to hookup, switches to other cars easier, and doesn't look ghetto-rigged. Also your stereo buddies will ask "Dude, how did you bypass the parking brake safety?" You will have something to talk about after you told your buddy his mom looked hot.
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well thanks for the nice comment i guess im dumb and ghetto all in one.... well in my truck i hid the ONE switch in the storage area in dash which is easy to flip back and forth twice and is operational after that but hey sorry for tring to help..
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It looks horrible to flip switches to over ride your flipscreen. "Dude, what are you doing?" you reply, "I gotta over ride my flipscreen safety features, I got these pimp switches that do for me, wired 'em myself."
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you must be a little person who has to make himself look better by making fun of someone...why dont you grow up and if there is information out there you dont like just ignor it..
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I don't need to make myself look better, I am fine the way I am. I deal with ignorant A holes all the time in my line of work. I don't care if you are offended by my comments, just realize the truth. I don't have to ignore stupidity, it isn't info that is useful.

I'm also sorry if you don't like the truth to be said, I've defended this country three times and taken four bullets for this country and it's freedom of speech, I think I have the right to exercise that freedom once in a while, especially when I see stupidity.
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this is my last post on this topic .... your really looking like the A hole here lashing out at someone such as myself for a post you dont agree with ....im sure your no more then 20 yrs of age as your acting ....that why i say grow up....if you wanna bash me more go ahead....dont care ....
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Actually, I am in my late twenties and I don't like false info or ghetto-rigging stuff. I like to do it the professional way and I'm sorry if it seems like I'm lashing out at you. I agree to disagree.
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guys calm down everyone has a voice in my thread lets be civil here. i wanted to get some help and have a how to thread to help other members as well

some may like the toggle switch idea. but i am looking for a bypass module that does not need to be reset if my battery dies and makes my radio a clean looking install.



does the Pioneer AVH-P5000DVD have a gyro?

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Re: Flip Screen Bypass Questions

I'll look into that unit and let you know.

Just for reference, the tr7 doesn't need to be reset if you unplug the battery. I took my alpine D106 out of my firebird, put it in the fiero, realized that it fit weird and that I couldn't see the screen well with the way it is in the car and took it back out, and stuck it back in the bird. Not once did I have to mess with the tr7, just had to reprogram my radio settings, eq settings, and display settings on the unit.

I'll get back to you on your pioneer question.
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Originally Posted by all4u
I'll look into that unit and let you know.

Just for reference, the tr7 doesn't need to be reset if you unplug the battery. I took my alpine D106 out of my firebird, put it in the fiero, realized that it fit weird and that I couldn't see the screen well with the way it is in the car and took it back out, and stuck it back in the bird. Not once did I have to mess with the tr7, just had to reprogram my radio settings, eq settings, and display settings on the unit.

I'll get back to you on your pioneer question.
thanks please let me know what you find out.


can you program me a TR7 for my Pioneer AVH-P5000DVD and have you ever used a TR7 on a Pioneer AVH-P5000DVD?
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My buddy told me that unit doesn't use a gyro. I'll look into the over ride. My buddy is a pioneer guy, I'm into alpine.


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