i currently have infinity kappa 10' subs in my car with a sony explode (i know sony but dont bash me thats what is going to stay) 1200 watt amp. the amp pushes 500 watts rms to one channel and 200 or 250 rms to 2 channels. well my problem is that right now one of my kappa's is blown. i found an awesome deal on a set of infinity reference 10 inch subs, which handle 250 watts rms apiece. compared to the kappa's 350 watts rms apiece. the amp i have really cant push these subs to thier potential which is why im wondering if it wouldnt hurt to just buy two new reference subs and sell my kappa. my question is how will the 2 infinity reference subs compare to my one infinity kappa? the reason im considering this is because a new infinity kappa is about $150 and the infinity reference subs are about $100 for both + i can sell my old one or use it in something else. has anyone on these boards used infinity reference? i have heard a 12 reference and i was pretty pleased.

 

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so do you think 2 infinity reference subs will sound better than my one infinity kappa on this amp?

 

I have a Sony headunit (love it BTW) & have Infinity 6X9 reference speakers (I know not subs) + Alpine amp & cheap 10inch subs. I haven't fine tuned everything yet. Just got the headunit 5 days ago, blew one of the 6x9's. My fault by pushing too much wattage thru it.
So that should answer your question. You got it covered. Reference or Kappa both are Infinity brand. Kappa are higher end, but Reference series are still better than any other brand, IMO.

 

Question: were you running the 6x9 off the deck or an amp?

 

off the amp. I don't know why both didn't blow. My brother told me that there is a shop here in Phx that will fix the coil. Don't really know how speakers work.

 

Getting back to the orginal post, kappa > reference but you can buy better for the money ($150).

 

As far as brand in speakers, I think Infinity is the best in auto speakers/subs. (since B&O doesn't make car audio). Kappa is suppose to be better than Reference.
Yesterday thru craigslist.org I bought 2 pairs a 6.5in & 4in Reference speakers for $50 (they weren't new, look & sound new though). I think I paid just under $50 for my 6x9's a couple of years ago on ebay. They were brand new, one of them had the metal boogered alittle totally comestic (it was the other one that blew).

 

you have much to learn, grasshopper.

 

teach me wise one

 

infinity is one of the sharper, cleaner sounding brands of the major corporations, kenwood, alpine, pioneer, but are by no means the best there is.

 

i thought that was a very good deal, 2 10" infinity reference subs bnib for under $100... what kind of subs can i get for a better deal than that? what would you recommend if i wanted 2 10" subs for <$150? i want decent sound quality but i also would like them to get pretty loud.

i really like infinity the kappa that i have now sounds great im really pleased with it but this is my 1st system and im not real big into car audio.

 

This pretty much sums up what you should do. If you like it but it. Two drivers that you like for $100 is a damn good deal. I will be lucky to keep it below 5 or 600 when I eventually decide on drivers for myself but I'm obsessed and spend a lot of time driving

 

ya the only thing is im taking a step down from one kappa 10" to 2 refence 10" do you think it will sound just as good?

 

Sound quality might get impacted some but output should increase assuming that both drivers have similar excursion limits.

 

I just installed two Infinity 10" Reference subs in my car the other day. They're being power by an Infinity Reference 1741A amp.

Its a decent sound, imo.

Considering I got both subs for only $90, I'm happy with it.

If you wanna upgrade to the 12" Reference subs it's only $9 more.

 

So what brand delivers better sound than Infinity?

 

well i want 10"s b/c the box i have is for 10"s.... how do those subs sound johnjm22? and how much power are you running to them?

 

going to have to be more specific. as with anything, its users preference. as far as components go, i'm very partial to rainbow components, focals and dynaudios also sound incredible. next to a set of infinities, the difference is about like infinity to pyle or boss. cdt and crystal make some nice cheaper components for the people that dont want to drop 200-1k on a component set. boston and diamond also make great components, morel, dls, plenty of companys out there that walk all over infinity.

as for bass, i mostly am into internet companies because of the much higher price/quality ratio. i run soundsplinter rl-p 12's right now, they're great, but im probably going to upgrade to some 15's, thinking either some digital designs 9515 or 9915's, audioque hd's, or stereo integrity magnums. nothing thats ever been produced by infinity could even THINK about touching the output of any of those woofers, including the rl-p's i have now. the mags and rl-p's also have better sound quality than the perfects ever have. the dd and hd's, they sound decent but good LORD are they loud. loud like you wouldn't believe. 2 9915's will shake your soul if you can feed them 1000-2000 watts rms each.

heres 2 9515's. they're not even as good as the 9915's. how many dual infinity sub setups do you see destroying a car in this manner?

http://www.realmofexcursion.com/vide...gns/9515.8.wmv

 

A ton of stuff. Basically all the internet companies (elemental designs and the like), JL audio, etc. You can spend a ton more than what you paid for those Infinities. Again, I would be happy if I could still spend that little and be happy with the results.

 

Like I said they sound decent. I get compliments on them all the time. I'm sending mine 278 watts each.

Here are some reviews:
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-BOaQ5NA...i=1081040W#Tab

Keep in mind there are alot of things that contribute to the quality of your sound other then the speakers themselves. Having the proper crossover freq, the right box, good cables, and a good amp sending the proper amount of power, will all help a lot.

If you set up your system properly I'm sure you'll be more than happy with the Infinity Reference speakers.

 

Two quick comments. First, most of the reviews are written by people like yourself - they're not huge into car audio so they haven't heard the 'better' stuff. They will rave about a given product even if others with more experience don't find it that amazing. Great example is a pair of speakers I auditioned when I was looking for components. Awesome reviews but I couldn't stand the way they sounded. I'm not saying that's the case with your subs but take reviews with a grain of salt. Remember, there was a guy who cut two holes in the floor of his truck to install two 12" subs and though it sounded great, got amazingly loud, and that the subs would be perfectly fine being exposed to the elements under the truck. Trust your ears over what random people (or even not so random) have to say. Listen in a show room, etc.

As for the list of things that contribute to SQ you forgot the most important thing: a properly designed enclosure.

 

Your exactly right.

For example, Bose gets rave reviews all the time, but thier stuff is total crap.

I only put up the reviews for a reference. I assume they original poster of this thread isn't "huge into car audio" so he is much like the reviewers themselves. In other words, if those reviewers (who are similar to him) like it, then he'll probably like it too.

When I said "the right box," I was reffering to a properly designed speaker enclosure.

 

Pardon me, I missed that when I posted my responce at like 3:30 in the morning.

 

got another question. i found another used infinity kappa sub that i can get for about $80 bucks. but consmetically it has some flaws. my question is should i get the one kappa and have 2 10" infinity kappa's or buy the 2 new reference subs and sell the kappa. i guess the big thing is that whatever i buy it will be drop in, so im not building a box to the subs specs. it will go in the box i have no matter what. and the amp is a sony 1200 watt which will do 200 watts rms to each sub. so what im thinking is that having the 2 kappa's wont be much better than having 2 reference b/c i dont have enough power to push either to their max. am i correct on this?