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6x9 question
I was working on my car the other day and thought about putting 6x9's in my dash, i did a search and read tons of things. my car is a 84 Z28, but my question is this. Will they fit in the dash without the heater/ac duct? My car has no ac or heat right now (i removed them both) Im going to put heat in the car, BUT im going to get a Mojave heater from Jegs (i can defrost with it to) So i really dont have any need for the duct. Can i just removed it and drop the speakers in? Thanks
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I highly doubt it. The dash is made for 4x6's and it has a plastic mold for them.... to get a 6x9 to fit you would have to cut the heck out of it and hope the dash has enough material left over to stay together.
If you tried to put them actually inside the dash it would be a pita. I doubt they would really fit that way either.
Best thing to do would just to stick them in the sail panels.
If you tried to put them actually inside the dash it would be a pita. I doubt they would really fit that way either.
Best thing to do would just to stick them in the sail panels.
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yea, cutting the dash up might be alot of work. I'm sure you can get it to fit but still... a load of work to do so. I would suggest just replacing the 4x6 speakers with some higher quality speakers. I'm sure there are some that can easily compete with the 6x9s. have fun with it which ever way you try
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Today i removed the passenger side duct and i got the 6x9 in, man it sounds good. Im gonna work on the other side tomorrow, im gonna make some kinda bracket for them, its a tight fit. It being held by tie wraps right now. I just wanted to see if it would fit is all
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how bout mod your dash to accept 5" round speakers if you wanna do it just to do it i doubt you'll gain any sound quality
or make some kick panels i don't think it's really that hard i've glassed a lot of stuff it's easy if you know what you're dealing wiht
or make some kick panels i don't think it's really that hard i've glassed a lot of stuff it's easy if you know what you're dealing wiht
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The 6x9 do make a diffrence. I might try to glass some kicks, although ive never made anything from fiberglass before, any tips?
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tips on glassing
>when sanding USE A RESPIRATOR! dont want to wreck your health by breathing in sanded pieces of glass, thats not good, remember this tip over any other
>fiberglass will take forever to dry in cold wether, I would recomend 75F at the lowest temp. 80-90 is good, 100 is great! that glass will try real quick. If its cold where you are by now then use a shop or a garage and let it dry infront of a heater.
>Wear Heavy Heavy rubber gloves, this stuff will eat though thin rubber, high gloves that go up your forearms.
>Remember that fiberglass itches, you may say that it doesnt itch so bad right after it touches you but keep in mind, these are micro peices of glass needles, they will aventually work their way into your skin and itch. lol its not to fun but kinda funny if it happens and you are like.. "HA! It does itch! >.< " well.. happen to me the first time I ever touched fiberglass.
Glassing is easy, get some foil or wire mesh, mold a shape out of it, strenghten the back of it with duct taped, Spray some fiberglass mold release on the foil, mix up some fiberglass resin with the hardener, you only need a few drops of hardener to dry a full cup of resin. Dip a fiberglass cloth in this stuff, slap it onto the foil and let it dry, repeat this process and cut out shapes out of the fiberglass sheet to evenly layer the inside of the foil, when its all dry peel the foil off, should be easy with the fiberglass mold release. Next mold up a top to that thing the same way with shaping the foil, maybe bend up the edges of the foil flat, by this time you should have the hang of diping the fiberglass sheets in the resin mixed with hardener so you can smear some on the edges that will be touching eachother, put some sheets around the top edges after you have laid the top onto it and let that dry. And BlahLA! You got a box, now put on that respirator and sand it so that its smooth and you wont scrape yourself on it.
>when sanding USE A RESPIRATOR! dont want to wreck your health by breathing in sanded pieces of glass, thats not good, remember this tip over any other
>fiberglass will take forever to dry in cold wether, I would recomend 75F at the lowest temp. 80-90 is good, 100 is great! that glass will try real quick. If its cold where you are by now then use a shop or a garage and let it dry infront of a heater.
>Wear Heavy Heavy rubber gloves, this stuff will eat though thin rubber, high gloves that go up your forearms.
>Remember that fiberglass itches, you may say that it doesnt itch so bad right after it touches you but keep in mind, these are micro peices of glass needles, they will aventually work their way into your skin and itch. lol its not to fun but kinda funny if it happens and you are like.. "HA! It does itch! >.< " well.. happen to me the first time I ever touched fiberglass.
Glassing is easy, get some foil or wire mesh, mold a shape out of it, strenghten the back of it with duct taped, Spray some fiberglass mold release on the foil, mix up some fiberglass resin with the hardener, you only need a few drops of hardener to dry a full cup of resin. Dip a fiberglass cloth in this stuff, slap it onto the foil and let it dry, repeat this process and cut out shapes out of the fiberglass sheet to evenly layer the inside of the foil, when its all dry peel the foil off, should be easy with the fiberglass mold release. Next mold up a top to that thing the same way with shaping the foil, maybe bend up the edges of the foil flat, by this time you should have the hang of diping the fiberglass sheets in the resin mixed with hardener so you can smear some on the edges that will be touching eachother, put some sheets around the top edges after you have laid the top onto it and let that dry. And BlahLA! You got a box, now put on that respirator and sand it so that its smooth and you wont scrape yourself on it.
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btw, if you want to read through a monster post here is the post when I made my fiberglass box, I took a load of pix. Good links in there to.
https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...s&pagenumber=1
Umm... supply list
1) gallon of fiberglass resin
2) packs of fiberglass sheets, thick ones
3) 1 can of spray fiberglass mold release
4) 1 high quality respirator, dont get a cheap dust mask
5) 1 roll of alluminum foil (dude man says shiney side up)
6) 1 big roll of duct tape
7) 1pack of assorted sand paper, rough to fine (optional)
8) 1 rattle can of your choice paint (optional)
9) 100 packs of black cat firecrackers (A MUST!, those are for me.. lol )
10 Bondo and hardener for it (for smoothing the finished product, optional)
11) extra tube of fiberglass resin hardener (it really sucks to run out when your working on the project, this stuff smells strong! lol )
>if anyone else wants to add to the list, pop something up there, maybe I forgot something *srugs*
<font color=red> TIP!, If I were you, I would just mix 1\4 cub of resin in some cut open soda can and put two drops of resin in it. To see just how the stuff works, ya know pour it over a GI joe or something lol or on something else creative like that. Just remember this stuff drys very hard so what ever it drys to, dont expect it to come off.
https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...s&pagenumber=1
Umm... supply list
1) gallon of fiberglass resin
2) packs of fiberglass sheets, thick ones
3) 1 can of spray fiberglass mold release
4) 1 high quality respirator, dont get a cheap dust mask
5) 1 roll of alluminum foil (dude man says shiney side up)
6) 1 big roll of duct tape
7) 1pack of assorted sand paper, rough to fine (optional)
8) 1 rattle can of your choice paint (optional)
9) 100 packs of black cat firecrackers (A MUST!, those are for me.. lol )
10 Bondo and hardener for it (for smoothing the finished product, optional)
11) extra tube of fiberglass resin hardener (it really sucks to run out when your working on the project, this stuff smells strong! lol )
>if anyone else wants to add to the list, pop something up there, maybe I forgot something *srugs*
<font color=red> TIP!, If I were you, I would just mix 1\4 cub of resin in some cut open soda can and put two drops of resin in it. To see just how the stuff works, ya know pour it over a GI joe or something lol or on something else creative like that. Just remember this stuff drys very hard so what ever it drys to, dont expect it to come off.
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I just got done glassing up a broken Glasstech hood. The main thing is to remember it's not hard, it's just really fricking messy. Try not to brush back over layers to much cause you will pull strands off them and it just makes clumps and then it's a pita. Make sure you get all the air bubbles out. I was literally almost stabbing the mat to death with resin on my brush. I got almost all the air pockets out that way.
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