redcamaro83

i have a rockford 360a2 bridged
my choices (BOTH 12'S)

(slightly used) kICKER XPL $120 (reseller)

(Brand New) Infinity Reference $100 plus tax (Circ City)

mcss383

Listen to them, whichever sounds best is the better one.

redcamaro83

i heard the infinity but not the kicker the reason i consider the kicker is cuase it handles more power. but in general i need to know which company makes a better sub for sound q.

mcconahay37

iTrader: (3)

I'd say the Kicker is the better of the two subs, but I'm going to say get the Infinity just because it's new. Most people don't know how to properly set up a sub and amp and end up screwing up the sub. Maybe me and my friends have had bad luck, but every sub that one of us has bought used has been blown or otherwise screwed up. At least if you buy soimething new, you can return it if it's faulty or at least you will know it's YOUR fault that it's blown because you screwed up and not someone else. I refuse to buy used stereo equipment, and I tend to stay away from used electronics.

RamAirZ

I'd go with the Kicker, depending on how old it is. Kicker products usually last a very long time and even if they have been played loud they stay tried and true, lol. My buddy had 2 XPL's in his stang for over a year, sold em to my buddy and they still sounded sweet. They are very close in comparison to a JL W3. But Infinity subs have really good SQ, lack a little in the SPL part though. I like Kicker cuz it brings up both, same reason I like JL

mudaholic

infinity makes spectacular sq products (in my opinion)... id go with that

Jim85IROC

iTrader: (2)

Those XPLs (at least the older ones) sound horrible. They're made to pound, and not much else.

RamAirZ

Not the newer ones. When they did a remodeling of the line they fixed some of that. Yes, if they are the old ones, they won't sound clear but hit hard as hell. The newer ones are alot better IMO. But like I said in my last comment, Infinity's make some of the best SQ speakers you can buy. No matter what the size, they just lack a lil SPL from their subs.

redcamaro83

i bought the kicker
haven't installed it yet
looks nice its one of the 25th anniversary models designed and or made by stillwater (who ever they are) i'll tell and show results later it got a nice looking chrome basket and is said to handel 500watt
somebody tell me who stillwater is.
Polecat? anybody?

Boxeat2469

All Kicker speakers are made by Stillwater Design. Thats the parent company.

redcamaro83

so what else does still water make?
all kicker products?
any other off branches

RamAirZ

From the best of my knowledge, Stillwater Designs is only the Kicker line, I don't think they have any offbrand, at least not one that I have ever heard or seen, and there site doesn't show it either. The 25th one is bad ***, I love the way they made them look, and they sound pretty awesome too. Let us know how it goes, what amp are you going to be using on it.

Polecat

Stillwater Designs is the parent company name. Kicker is the brand name. We make the Kicker, Impulse (now gone away) lines, as well as some speaker boxes for Toyota.
The first original XPL's with the ribbed cone, were lacking IMHO. But the next generation, the ones you have are really nice for small sealed enclosures.
I think you'll be pleased.

RamAirZ

The Impulse line was still listed as Kicker though if I'm not correct right? Like the Kicker Impulse amps, etc. My favorite amp from that series was the IX405D (a 5 channel amp with class D sub channel and dash-mountable gain control). The newer style's are killer. Anyone checked out the new Kicker Mustang GT, I think they should have used bigger subs (there are 3 Kicker L5 8's) but it looks sweet.

Polecat

Yes, you are correct...Kicker Impulse.
Yea, just spent two days in the Mustang...for a Ford, it turns some heads...but the three L5 8's pound, considering there is only a KX700.5 powering everything!

redcamaro83

how is the sound q on the xpl?
would i have done better with a Comp VR

RamAirZ

I bet it does pound, you guys wouldn't have used em like that if they didn't It looks sweet. Too bad it's not a Camaro hehe. The XPL is a very good sub, but it does lean a lil more toward the SPL side than the SQ side, but it is good on both. Comp VR's are very good subs, especially for the price. My friend's girl; has 2 VR 12's with a ZR360 pushin em, and hit 142 dB. I think you'll be very happy with the XPL.

redcamaro83

Ok great basically all i want is solid knock'n in ya chest bass when i need and decent clean sound the rest of the time.

redcamaro83

1 12in kicker xpl (powered by a rockford 360a2
audiobahn 4x6 separates in front
pioneer 6x9's rear
clarion 440 watt 4 channel for the interiors

(yes i have been drainin the battery)
time for higher power alt maybe second battery
(wishin for a batt cap)

anyone who has a spare set of components e-mail me

HEY Polecat where can i get chrome round kicker speaker grill?

mudaholic

second battery will worsen your electrical problems.. invest in a good alternator

redcamaro83

will do shortly
anyone got opinions on a great 50/50 sq/spl sub besides jl

mudaholic

adira brahma, or the image dynamics idmax..

mcss383

The idmax does very well. Its very accurate and produces a lot of spl, even with being in my trunk. It would pound like hell in the hatch back of a camaro!

Polecat

Need components, email me, I might be able to help.

On the grill, we don't make a chrome one...the only ones like that I've seen is Audiobahn.

mcss383

By components, do you mean a component set? I have my old JL XR650CS component set (6.5" and tweet w/x-overs) for sale. They were in my car for 6 monthes and work perfectly. $200+shipping and their yours.