Ricco

Will those brakes fit under a stock OEM C6 18x8.5" rim?

Spike-Z

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They wont.

Ricco

Damn. I really wanted those wheels and some just came up.. Do you know if you get the replica ones off ebay - will they fit?

Guess I could go with 19's and 20's with replica ones..

ebmiller88

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If you get replica "ZO6" wheels they'll fit. Even the Corvette guys must swap to ZO6 wheels so don't feel bad.

Ed

Ricco

Yeah i figured the Z06 wheels would fit, guess i was hoping that Chevrolet changed the wheels for the Z06 so it looked different, not so that they could clear the brakes

I just much prefer the look of the 5 spoke wheels better than the Z06 wheels...

ebmiller88

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I just picked up a set of C6 base model gray wheels, 5 spoke, for testing brake setups so I'll let you know what will fit and what won't when they arrive. They should ship tomorrow. I have C5 and C6 brake kits on hand so I can test any one you need me to.

Ed

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Yes they will fit.

The C6 Z06 6pot calipers and 14" rotors will fit under the front 18x8.5 C6 Z06 wheels. Thats the factory setup. Unless you are talking the C6 Z06 brakes without standard NON Z06 normal C6 wheels, those won't.

How do I know they are going on my truck very soon replacing this setup.

Top secret for now. I actually have not bought my own calipers yet, working off a friends calipers right now- very soon though. I think I have it working, just need some more free time.
http://www.cardomain.com/member_page...2_171_full.jpg

ebmiller88

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DEAN! How ya been man? Long time no see.

I think he's referring to the base wheels: ..Will those brakes fit under a stock OEM C6 18x8.5" rim?

Ed

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Hi Ed,
Life has been interesting thats for certrain. Were do I begin- What a year for everybody though!!!!

I bought a non CNC mill and lathe so I can now start tinkering with machining my own stuff. no production runs though, just rough one off's getting a better feel for the use of machines before I end up buying a larger CNC in a few years I hope if I learn well.

I have been around under this name now for about 2 months, wonder if it will remain- time will tell.

Hope as is good with you. I see you and John have been woking together on the Brembo brake package for his car. Looks great.

I caught the OEM meaning the base line wheels about half way through my typing.

Ricco

Thanks for the replies guys..

I guess i will need to decide which i want most, the 14" Z06 brakes or the regular C6 5 spoke rims...

Ed, didnt i see somewhere you had the C6 Z06 caliper mounted to a 13" rotor? Would that clear the C6 rim?

Cheers,
Richard.

blyth18md

So youre going to the factory z06 setup? Have all the issues been sorted with this setup. I understand that this is "just your work truck"...but this is YOUR work truck we talking about here.

I'm referring to the lack of aftermarket pads, the cost of multiple pads and questionable caliper strangth. If I remember correctly many many z06 folks were upgrading to a stoptech kit right off the showroom floor.

Ricco

I primarily want it for the looks

iansane

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Yes they will; on a thirdgen. Vette guys need to swap because of caliper to spoke clearance, not diameter. Websense blocks photobucket @ my work or I'd post pictures. You can do a search under my name and you'll see pictures of my bird with OEM base c6 wheels (18x8.5) and c6 ZO6 6pots and 14" rotors. The key is the 2" spacer required to run those wheels puts the spokes out far enough to clear the calipers.

Guest

They are a hell of alot better than the factory truck 368 calipers I have now.
Pads? I can always take a set of pads down to porterfield and the can grind the current material off and rebond some RS-4 onto them if needed. Takes about 2 hours for them to do as long as they have the backingplates.

I want them for the C6 Z06 theme on the truck.

But enough already about my truck, this is a 3rd gen site. I only responded with info I had pertaining to the question asked and try to always document facts I have so the user can trust the info.

Don't know what you mean by YOUR work truck. Its my truck, Its my daily driver, I carry heavy loads in it almost daily for my stone business. I have for about 20 years now. Its an '89 and I have owned it since new. That is it pictured above.

Also, the only real problem with the factory setup is the crappy Gm 14" rotors that are used backwards on the right side of the car. I am using 2 pc aftermarket rotors, I just want the C6 Z06 calipers.

Ricco

Can you verify if this is true Ed?

iansane

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Now that I'm home; how about I post a couple pictures to prove it?







True enough?

Like I said, even if the spacer wasn't there to fit those wheels, the problem wouldn't be diameter (so going to a 19" wouldn't do anything), the problem would be caliper to spoke clearance because of how wide the calipers are.

And FYI, I'm using Ed's C5 adapter bracket. I have c5 Zo6s calipers before this. Unbolted the old caliper/abutment bracket and bolted the c6 caliper in it's place directly to the caliper. You can see the c5 caliper still hooked to the brake line in the last shot because I wasn't sure if it was going to work or not. With a setup like this I'd really like to run a floating rotor though. From what I've read on frrax.com the ctsv brembo bolts directly up to an ls1 spindle using the c6 zo6 rotor. If that works I don't see why an ls1 bracket from Ed couldn't be used to get the same results. If I had to do it over, that'd be the route I'd take. More piston area, more pad choice and longer living pads (under track conditions).

Ricco

Cheers man, its not like i don't/didn't believe you, but when people like Ed are saying they wont fit then its good to get a second opinion Also, Ed did mention he just got in some base C6 wheels so would be willing to do some testing/verifying.

The brakes sure do look good though

iansane

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I can understand the hesitance when the brake guru of a significant number of car forums says it won't fit, coupled with the high buy in cost of this setup. I wouldn't want to buy then not be able to use!

The calipers are massive though. Even with the 2" spacer, I can barely fit my fingers between the caliper/spoke.

Ricco

Exactly! I might just go and get me a set of the C6 wheels i saw now

What rear brakes are you running? And what tyre sizes are you running? I am guessing you have the 18x8.5 up front and 19x10 in the rear? Any problems with clearence? Looks like you have a little rubbing on the plastic arch liner up front...

Also, what offset and backspace do your rims have?

Sorry for all the questions dude

iansane

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I've just got the standard PBRs in the rear; an lt1 axle.
Tires are 275/35-18 in front and 295/35-19 on 19x10s in the rear. I ran into clearance issues on the rear. With the lt1 axle I actually had to use a 1" bolt on spacer otherwise the wheels tucked in too far and hit the inner fenderwell. Now they sit right in line with the fenderlip (which I rolled up just a hair). The rubbing you see is actually from my original 16x8 fronts. Weird, huh?

The wheels are OEM GM, I don't know the offset/backspacing offhand. I do know they sit a lot farther in the wheel wells than my old 18x9.5" c5 wagon wheels.

Stevo

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I wish i had 6 piston vette calipers but i went with 4 piston brembos off a ctsv, using a 13.5" c6 z51 rotor. I'm using c5z06 wheels 17x9.5" in the front this was the biggest brake setup i could fit. I have less then a 1/4" from my caliper to wheel. Ed hooked me up, he is the man to go to for custom brake setups.

If i step up to 18s, im going to hopefully swap those calipers for some 6 pistons but for now im pleased with my 4 piston brembos .

Ricco

I also have a LT1 rear end with PBR's...

What all needs to be done to the hub/spindle to allow the use of all these various rotors? I understand that the spindle needs to be cut down to allow the fitment of a different type of caliper bracket, but doesnt something need to be fabricated to perform the function of a wheel bearing housing? Is that just a cut down 3rd gen rotor?

Cheers,
Richard.

iansane

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You got it. You cut the rotor portion off of a thirdgen/s10 hub/rotor setup so all you're left with is the hub. Make sure you measure the inside diameter of whatever rotors and just have them cut to a hair smaller so you keep the largest possible face.

ebmiller88

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Hi guys.. I got the wheels today but won't get to them for a week or so due to previous orders and a vacation.
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Well, you're cheating! I forgot you were using a spacer, then of course they'll fit. I have 1.25" spacers on hand but will likely get a couple more so I can play around with the C6 wheels and different kits like this. More to come.

Ed

Cadillac

My thing, when I look at this thread, is that I don't want spacers on my car. Something about them makes me feel like they aren't totally secure. Still, I appreciate the options they allow for our cars' shoes.

iansane

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Of course I'm cheating. How else would I get the c6 wheels on my car?

But I seriously doubt these wheels will fit with only a 1.25" spacer.

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I'd love to see a c6 style wheel made to fit a thirdgen. That'd be awesome! But probably more than I payed for these wheels even with spacers. ($400 for the set + $200 spacers).

Besides, I've beat the ever living crap out of my car running these spacers and it's yet to fail. I guess the keyword there is yet. I can understand the hesitation though. I'd disconcerning to put what looks like flimsy disc between what hold up your entire car.

Fords88Bird

Iansane sweet setup, got any speedometer issues running the 295/35 in back since it's about 1" taller than stock, also how low did u go front & back. Later.

iansane

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I did. But since I'm running a t56 and dakota digital SGI-5 signal converter box I just reset the dip switchs and now the speedo is accurate agian.

Blue Bird 89

Is your bird lowered? If so , how much? Also, how are the spacers on the front affecting wheel bearing life?

iansane

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This post was from before the car drove itself down a cliff @ 20 mph. The wheel spacers are still holding up!

Mine? Yes. Lowered ~2.5" in the front and 2" in the rear. Wheel bearing life is same as standard. I just repacked them a few weeks ago actually. Almost no play but the grease has turned a dark red vs the bright red I put in.

1BADZ28SD

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iansane ur car is bad i want those calipers on my car they look bad a$$ but i having trouble picking those or the 2010 ss camaro brembos any advice ?

iansane

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I'll raise you one better. From the looks of it you can use those big 6pots with just an LS1 brake bracket.
http://www.gmhightechperformance.com...els/index.html

If I had to choose between the camaro brembos/vette stuff I'd go with brembos. There are more pad choices and the pistons are actually larger (and better designed)

Edit; Oh and thanks for the compliment!

1BADZ28SD

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ur welcome i seen those before the cts im like hopy crap the thing what troubles me is the rim clearance and that i want the full setup front and back and cost if i going to spend the money i want to spend it rite the first time

Blue Bird 89

Great looking car, love the stance. I found a set of LG Motorsports World Challenge wheels (18x10 front and 19x11 rear) 55 mm front and 71 mm rear offset. They have 275/35-18 and 305/30-19 on them now. Currently running stock front brake, but I'll be looking for the vette brakes soon. Rear is out of a 93 T/A with 3.23 gearsand 98-02 big rear disc set up. Do you think they (front especially) will fit with the proper spacer w/o rubbing?

iansane

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I'm not too sure those fronts are going to fit very well. It will be CLOSE. I rub @ full lock in reverse(enough to stop the car if it's rolling). And I rub the liners pretty much all the time while turning and I'm only using a 8.5" wheel w/ 56mm backspacing. As long as you don't mind your scrub radius a little off you'll probably have to fine tune what size spacer/adapter you need. I'm going to guess at least a 2.25" That's a lot of wheel for the front! I'd love to see pictures when you bolt it all up!