Mcdamit

Can the C6 Z06 Corvette brakes be fitted to fit a 3rdgen Iroc?

The Complete set for the 6 piston/4 piston Caliper, rotors and pads for all 4 wheels is $1600. Now considering a similar baer set will cost around $5000, I am very interested. I would see about getting the front rotor cut to 13" so that the caliper may fit under a stock 16" Iroc Rim. The problem is that the rotors for these brakes has a large valley to stop the caliper from hitting the rotor hat.

Does anyone have any knowledge on both the Z06 and Thirdgen to maybe complete the transfer.. I know the front will work, though a wheel change maybe nessacery but will the rear brakes mount up to a solid rear axle setup.. I dont know much about this, but this would be some of the best brakes to put on any car. I know I would need custom bracketry but that can be made at my local machine shop. any ideas?

Mlanzo

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Dude, where did you see that for $1600?? I can't see how that is possible.

Mcdamit

Im contracting through vette guys, there is a very limited amount. I have been discussing the idea of this with a few Z06 owners.... A few have already bought off the seller. If you go to this thread you can get the calipers for $235 x2 , $116 x 2 for the rotors.

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/brak...big-can-i.html

A little more expensive, but I would be getting them directly from GM, with the GM discount...(I wouldn't get the brake lines or fluid but you can find better deals out there) http://westcoastcorvette.com/ps-999-...e-upgrade.aspx

yuel

I have heard that those calipers will be a lot harder to install and fit. Even some of the corvette owners with c5 doing the conversion is having a hard time, because of the different rotor design and spacing, but may i just read it wrong. i figure i am doing the 2005 c6 caliper design upgrade, since it can use the c5 bracket and rotors, if i want to go with the z51 with 13.4" rotors all i need is the abutment bracket for them and off coarse new rotors.

Mcdamit

I know it will be a pita, but it would be one hell of a setup. The front brakes are definitely possible as that parts can be changed out but the rears a whole nother story. If any has any comments or knowledge of how much work this will involve and what will have to be changed please post it up.

kairles

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people said the C6 Z06 brakes was a direct swap on C5's

TGO thread

corvetteforum thread

@ZZKKER

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exactly, they are a direct bolt on for the c5 brakes. you have to run an 18" wheel though for clearance.

thanks

18inchboyds

i would have these front brakes expect i have 18" boyds with a stepped lip so they have a 17inch center, otherwise id do it . And i also hear and have seen they bolt right on if you have done the c5 conversion or have a c5 vette.

luke j

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These are posted in the "how big can i go" thread listed earlier. I am getting them direct from GM.

Mcdamit

how much is it too modify the spindles and stuff for the c5/c6 conversion?

also whats the maximum tire/rim size that can fit a thirdgen without body modification.

will 18x8.5 rims fit?

super_kev

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Read some of the many C5 conversion posts here. It's not that much. You can do it if you have a few tools.

There are all kinds of combos. I know one guy has 20s (I think, or maybe it's 19 front, 20 rear). It depends on if you want some rubber to ride on, or if you just want to drive on wheels alone.

Read this below (from a few posts up)...

It depends on the wheels.

Desert86Roc

Guys, if you have not seen the setup available from bigbrakeupgrade.com, then you are really missing out. I started out with his LS1 conversion and ran them for a year, and then upgraded to the Z06 set. THe LS1 brakes were a great improvement over stock with true 12" rotors, and the Z06 gave me even better performance with the 13s. Add slotted cross-drilled and zinc washed rotors for a great look. I am using them with Ceramic pads and cant believe how well they stop.

I am using the Z06 kit with a 17" ROH Snyper wheel. They will NOT fit a 16".

The Bigbrake setup comes in a kit you can really just "bolt-on" or you can build your own. Go out there and look at his pricing, then decide what brakes you want.

Mcdamit

Im talking about the brand new 6 piston caliper setup.. its 1600 bucks

I found some info on how to change the front brakes but can the rear be changed just as easily as well.. I have at least $150,000 in tools,, problem is finding the tool I need.

@ZZKKER

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not on the 9 bolt. the ls1/c5/c6/c6 zo6 setups use an integrated drum on the rotor for the parking brake. the 9 bolt has retainer plates that get in the way of the new drum style parking brakes. you can use the rear rotors and calipers off the c6 zo6, but the parking brake will have to be converted to a hydraulic unit that locks the caliper by maintaining the line pressure while off the brake.

also, keep in mind that the c6 zo6 uses 14" rotors, not the 13" the others used.

this limits the wheel choice to 18" and above. by the way, the only f body i ever seen that looked good with 20" wheels was a member who has a platinum gta over in Europe, and he has BBS LM wheels, and they are to clear his BIG brake setup.

IMO, 18" is the perfect size for wheels on the f body.

thanks
anthony

Mcdamit

The only reason I would ever change rims is to clear the brakes or for better handling. The biggest problem is finding something with the right/similar offset. Since its 18 in the back and 0 front.

How bad do 18" Iroc Rims look... The RG-R rims are nice but I cant find info on them

@ZZKKER

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forgot to say that the rear rotors are 13.4", not 14" like the fronts.

thanks

Mcdamit

Yeah that I know...

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1357385

89ta383sc

becareful with thinking that the 6 piston stuff is the way to go. me and a friend are having promlem finding wheels to fit over the calipers. all the wheels I have tried hit the caliper before it hits the rotor. it is coming down to find someone to make custom wheels. it is almost an inch between the two. i had all the stuff on my car and took it off for that reason. i found out from my friend who has four piston saleen calipers on his car. his tires got balled and he was going to take off the saleen wheels and put on stocks. that is how we found out. you can run specers to get them to work, but i am agianst running them.

@ZZKKER

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have you tried the 18" zr1 or the 18" zo6 c5 wheels that dtcustoms sells on this board? i was gonna buy a set of the 18" x 9.5 fronts and the 18"x11 rears when they offer them. i am gonna buy the brakes for the fronts as soon as i get my tax return some time in the next couple weeks.

i guess if worst comes to worst, you can wait till they off the stock reproductions of the c6 zo6 wheels. I'm sure they would fit. lol

What wheels have you tried for future reference???????

greezemonkey

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why not try 06' ZO6 rims

@ZZKKER

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this is why

greezemonkey

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Haha LOL! true story! What are the custom ones going to cost though?

89ta383sc

I would but I don't like the idea of running adapters or spacers. If I ran them they would fit. I am trying to build the car for the road cousres. The car is getting built for the open class. And I think they would not like that at all. that gives them more of a reason to tech the car alot harder.

@ZZKKER

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bolt on adapters are legal for use in almost all classes, and are just as safe as if you were running wheel only. skulte makes the best and his knowledge of wheel fitment should be able to help you get the right ones the first time.

as far as the replicas, i would imagine they would run from 450 - 900 without tires. time will tell.

86irocterror

hey guys whats up. to help out with the new c6 zo6 brakes, you need at least an 18" rim to clear the massive 14" rotors and 6 piston calipers. but with a 6 piston kit im under the understanding that the master cylinder will not supply 12 pistons in the front with enough fluid to get the results your looking for. and to be honest i have the c5 zo6 kit with cross drilled and slotted and zinc washed rotors with the hawk hp pads (and i got it all from bigbrakeupgrade.com) and its almost to much if your in stop and go. a 6 piston kit with 14" rotors is to help you stop under very high speeds not really worth the money for a street car. my kit cost me just over 1000 bucks and theoreticaly with no drag on my car with what i have done to it and all the gearing and bla bla bla......will top out at 243mph......ive honestly had it to ruffly 170 next to a friend on his crotch rocket and did use my brakes pretty hard and there was NOOOOOOOOOO problem stopping. the c6 kit would be more practical for show or raceing. save yourself some money and do a c5 kit or a c4hd kit the c4 kits fit 16" iroc wheels c5 kits fit 17" and spend the saved money on some power adders!!!!

@ZZKKER

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i will have almost a grand in all my parts (dealer discount), and if need be i will install a better booster/master cylinder setup. i am just doing this for my future auto-x events i plan on doing, and to be different. i remember when 12" was big and "you will never need anything bigger than a 12" 2 pot setup".

thanks

TTOP350

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I have a few ?s FYI pads fron gm are 337.00 retail
1st how much past the hub does the caliper stick out???
2nd could the caliper be used on a 13 inch rotor ???
3rd what is the mounting bolt spacing center to center on the caliper???
4th What is the rotor thickness ???
5th do you have the front calipers left and right pt numbers??
I know I'll have more ?s

Mcdamit

2. I had one of the Z06 guys measure it for me,, he said from the center it was exactly 8",, so I would imagine it would be an 1".

part numbers are on the brake board under how big can I go if I remeber correctly.

@ZZKKER

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i beleive the same problem will be had with these as the brembo calipers from the cts-v if they are used with 13" rotors.

Jeffluke

I aquired my C-5 Z06 Powder Coated Vette calipers F/R (same as LS1 rears),from GM parts Direct, at least 30% cheaper than walking into the dealer, and for new stuff, you cannot beat it, they can be obtained on the e store for very close to the same price, watch shipping, I test fitted the completed 13inch Z06 set up in my 17inch wheel the other day and mounted the calipers at the 3 and 9 o'clock positions (takes a little know how) they are @ 2 mm from scraping the rim but are very impressive, I am not at the point where I demand C6/6pots and 14" rotors to stop, remember it usually is all about the money, and something called EGO "Look I have it and you dont", C5/Z06/13's/LS1 rears, are very adaquate for a modded street driven car with a budjet of $700 or so, depending on your ability and parts connectionsd w/do it yourself approach.

TTOP350

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This is what I have now

front
Team3rdGen

rear
Team3rdGen

I think i found a way to run the 6piston front and 4 piston rear with the brakes I have now... I'll keep you updated...

luke j

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Tony; caliper stick out 1 15/16" from hub, rotors are 1 1/4" thick, center to center on mounting bolts is 5.0431" do not know about 13" rotors, part numbers are listed at gmpartsdirect.com under upgrade section for c6.

Luke