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Old 03-03-2002 | 11:13 PM
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how do you fix a sagging door?

my friend got this 81 camaro last friday and one thing we noticed was that the doors sag.........now i told him what we did in my bro's 73 nova to fix it but he doesnt believe that is the safest and right way to do it......my friend doesnt want me to lead you guys on to thinking the way we did it was right......so i was wondering if i could just get your opinions and then i will say how we did it...............and also.....would he just b able to get a new hinge and it would b fixed?
Old 03-04-2002 | 05:20 AM
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Its not actually the hinges that go bad it is the pins that hold the hinges. Go to www.3rdgensolutions.com and get the set I ordered last week. Or you can go to autozone and get the help,me pins but you will have to replace those every few years or so!

Hope this helps you and your bud!

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Old 03-04-2002 | 06:12 AM
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Actuall, 2nd gen F body hinges are completely different than 3rdgen hinges. You can actually fix and or replace both hinges very easily. They are not welded to the door like 3rdgen hinges are.

As far as I know they are still available from GM, or Classic Industries.

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Old 03-04-2002 | 10:05 AM
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ok well thats not what we did.....but if it works then that is cool........what we did was we jacked up the car by the door and bent the hinge back up.......my bro said he heard somewhere that u can do this and it wont harm anything......and it didnt.....the doors shut fine now


but thanks
i think he will do that


oh......2nd gen camaros and firebirds have the same kind of door hinge dont they?
Old 03-05-2002 | 06:12 AM
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That is kinda like putting fix-a-flat in a tire. It's OK for a short while.

The second gen hinges are not stamped like 3rdgen hinges. They are cast. How you are going to bend a cast hinge I don't know. I believe that the door itself will actually bend first. Or maybe even the body. I certainly do not recommend this procedure!

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Old 03-05-2002 | 04:05 PM
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NAPA, AutoZone, and other parts stores have replacement bushings which will solve the problem. The only difficulty is realigning the doors on the hinges (you'll need help). I've replaced these on 2nd gens by myself and it is a hassle.

Even now that you've bent your hinges back, those bushings still need replacing. Hopefully you haven't damaged the doors or hinges. If you have, contact YearOne or your local junk-yard if it is a beater.
Old 03-05-2002 | 07:16 PM
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yep for thirdgens ANDYZ28 has a monopoly on hindge repair kits that are insainly priced with outlandish materials. Why not just a castle nut?, nylon locking, two nuts up agaisn each other? Aerospace 12 pinot nut, BHAA!! WTF needs that? I am working on getting a lath(spelling?) and making some cheapers ones $125 dollars for 4 pins and bolts? WTF
Old 03-05-2002 | 09:28 PM
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OK! I have noticed that over the past few months "camaro6spd" has had an issue with the price of my UPPER door hinge pin&bushing kits. So "camaro6spd" what price should I charge? $5.00 maybe $10.00?
Old 03-05-2002 | 09:36 PM
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Andy, I think your products are a great thing, but you could sell a lot more if the price was a little lower. Man I program & setup Okuma CNC lathes and I know you can make at least 20 of them an hour.
Old 03-05-2002 | 09:54 PM
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I don't have any Okuma CNC lathes! I must get someone else to do it.

Apparently the price is not an issue for a great many people. As I am still just barely able to keep up with the orders. No kidding.
Old 03-05-2002 | 10:22 PM
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Andy, find a source with CNC, you will save a bunch and be able to pass the savings on to your customers and to me in the near future also
Old 03-05-2002 | 10:37 PM
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ok well he does plan on changing out the pins and bushings......my bro did change the pins and bushings in his car too......

sounds like you guys are on your own subject now....so i will let ya go on with that

thanks
Old 03-06-2002 | 10:27 PM
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Yanking the door up is nothing more than a medieval door adjustment which can be performed more permanently by loosening the hinges and actually adjusting them.

The doors on third gen cars are long and heavy and wear the hinge/bushing components very easily. Myself, I would just order new hinges.
Old 03-06-2002 | 10:43 PM
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"Myself, I would just order new hinges." Changing the hinges, which are welded to the door is a real pain.
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