idrag2

Hey guys I am thinking about putting 4th gen seats and consoule in my 89 Formula......Can any of you post some pics so I can get a idea what they look like befor I do this.....

Thanks,

I DRAG 2

stuart69427

not mine, someone else on the board, cant remember there name at the moment, im sure they will post though

ThirdGenZ28 92

I just picked up a set of 99 TA black leather seats, here's a few pics:
Before:

After:





I still have to wire up the pass. seat and run the air tubes but otherwise Im real happy with them, a nice upgrade without a doubt. The cloth sets can be had dirt cheap and like new, the leathers are expensive if newer but set the car off nice and they are comfortable as well....

2vmodular

How much modification is needed to put 4th gen interior door panels onto a 3rd gen?

Do the 4th gen panels lineup with the predrilled friction clip holes in the 3rdgen doors?

Zepher

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There is too much modification if you are going to use the 3rd gen dash. If you use the 4th gen dash, it will be a little easier since you don't have to cut the door panels at all. Maybe some minor cutting, but nothing like I had to do.

I gave up on the door panel swap until I get the dash for the car.

Here is my 4th gen interior,

TheWraith

97z28 seats

72BuickGSX

just took pics today since, was basically to cold outside to work on my car, i wish i had a garage to work in lol, had to do the whole swap outside , anyhow here are some new pics, still not finished , but getting closer , sorry my pics are kinda fuzzy becuase im using a camcorder not a digital camera ,

Zepher

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I like your roll cage. Is that one you can order?
If so, how much, who makes it, part number, and how hard to install?

Thanks

72BuickGSX

roll cage i ordered from steve sphoon , only to find out he didnt make it but is a dealer from a s and w racer place i think that was the name, anyhow orginial i ordered a 10point cage to install in my 86z28 but changed my mind and used it in my formula, well , its kinda custom after that, , it was supposed to look like a regular cage,with swing out bars and all , but when i got done it involled into something new , , as far as being easy, im sure if anyhow has a garage and a flat surface and a mig welder, then it would be a easy install, hardest part is welding over the gas tank, i wasnt to thrilled about that, but for me it was a pain in the ***, i eventually had to recut some of the cage with a saw and shorten it, so my passenger side 4th gen door panel would shut, i was about a half a inch off center , thats why i havent put any padding on the door bars, not enough room for it, have to find some padding that not as thick, or just use yellow electric

72BuickGSX

nosaint

love the conversion. but i need some details, how did u attach
the fourth gen door panels to the door?

HamsterOnaMission

hey, are the back seats still usable with the cage?

idrag2

How hard is it to put a 4th gen dash in our cars and what is required they look sweet in there.........

un4givin89

72BuickGSX: Those aren't the orginal 4th gen gauges in the cluster are they? If so how did you set that up?

un4givin89

PS 72BuickGSX I'd like to see pictures of the whole car. You've got the badest ride on the board and you don't talk much. I see you live here in va near richardsville off of R17 ??

MrsLottaBallsCamaro

72BuickGSX-
That is the sweetest 4th gen swap I've seen! Please give us some more details about how you did the door panels and dash! How long did it take you, and how much customization did it take?

un4givin89

all the details are on his website http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/clutch/63/

I'm gonna do a 4th gen interior swap in my new IROC-Z

72BuickGSX

wow thanks guys, for all the great comments, like un4given said i have a site, its nothing great, but it might give anyone trying this swap, some info and help, i wont lie i do have alot of hours invested but i had nothing but time,and i got a great deal on all the 4th gen stuff from a wrecked 96 firehawk, so i had nothing to loose actualy, anyhow my 383 been in the shop getting built, yes took for ever before i found someone to build me a freaking motor, ???
anyhow motor getting ready to be droped back in , hopefully before drag season opens up in march,, got a lt1 conversion intake on the way from john, , well the rest of the car is just a regular formula, that i put trans am ground effects on, ram air 2 hood and 4th gen spoiler, and two front trans fenders, car needs a paint job bad, and fenders and hood needs lineing up, but at this point in not real worried about it till i get the car running, so i can see if my guages will work,bascially i just uesed the old guages and put them in the 4th gen frame kinda, hopefully it will work but wont know till motor is in, i allso have to go through to find my engine light and all that fun stuff, so i have alot to do yet, actually
but i plan on a pretty tricked out paint job when im done, i draw anyhow,and plan on painting the car myself so that will be the cheapest and easiest project for my ride, anyhow sorry this post was long but here are some more pic,s

un4givin89

where??

72BuickGSX

oh forget yes, im about 8 miles off route 17 , about 25 miles from fredericksburg,

stuart69427

one of these days ill have to drive down there and see this car...lets see here...it takes an 45 minutes to get to fredricksburg so all in all i shoud be at your house in 25 minutes by Camaro?

72BuickGSX

yeah every thrusday night im usally at summerduck running, and once a month they have a big dog race, its usally domenatied by stangs and imports, prehaps a few of us va boys need to go snake hunting

Zepher

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I am down for some snake hunting.

86FyrBrd

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Heres mine.

stuart69427

someone mentioned snake hunting, when do we start?

un4givin89

should take me an manny 45 mins to get there if he drives the same way I do, take the speed limit and times by 2.

stuart69427

why not times by 3, or 4, or 5, or 6, or 7, ........

72BuickGSX

i plan on going to carlise,pa, the new jersey show they have up there and hopefully trans am nationals, this year, dont know if i will run up at new jersey dragstrip, would have to blow out my rear and have to get towed back to va so hopefull i will see some of you guys around,

un4givin89

I might be moving to northern VA, for job reasons and to be closer to my g/f.

Dmook62

Can I do this same swap to my 87 IROC because all i see in here is people with TA's or Firebirds. IF so willthe 96 Firehwk stuff fit inlike yours did 72BuickGSX?

un4givin89

Yup you can, I will be installing an firebird interior 4th gen into my IROC-Z, becuase I like the 4th gen firebird better than the camaro.

88 WS6 TransAm GTA

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You should come to the Wildwood car show in the spring!!! Im tryin to get as many people as I can to go this year. I go every year, and theres never enough 3rd gens... too many *** damn Rustangs. Ill have some more info on the show up in a few weeks!

Dmook62

Thanks Guys!!!!

jm91rs

okay you guys, that looks great. Is there a tech article on it yet? I am wondering how my stock gauges will work in there?

1stgenracer

Is there any place that sells 4th gen dashes, door pannels, consol, ect, everything that is needed for the interior? thanks

Zepher

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www.speedautomotive.com
Tell them that Manny sent ya.

dnovotny

I don't know if anyone will like this answer, but I have a cure for the desire to swap a 4th gen interior into a 3rd gen. I recently bought an '01 WS6 T/A, now I have no desire to do a swap. In a lot of ways, I prefer the 3rd gen interior. The 3rd gen had no squeaks or rattles when new, the 4th gen has plenty. I prefer the cluster layout of the 3rd gen over the squished 4th gen. The line of the 3rd gen dash is much cleaner.

What I do like about the 4th gen interior is that the dash is one complete unit, versus all the pieces mishmashed together in the 3rd gen dash. What I plan to do is to clean up some of the lines on the 3rd gen dash, but leave the character there. But I think the character of the interiors already match the cars personality.

Later, Dave '91 GTA, '91 T/A, '01 WS6

1stgenracer

ok, i am going to order all the interior parts from speed automotive. My question is,I like the one that is posted, but is is from a firebird, will it be any harder to install it because it is from a firebird rather than a camaro like mine? thanks

Fast86TA

ok, I've got an 84 trans am, and I just got ALL the intereior peices from a 97 trans am. I know the seats work fine, but I was just curious about the carpet and the console, the 97 was an auto, and mine is a stick, so I know I'll need a new shifter plate, but is everything else the same. and what about power window switches? And how does the console fit in and everything? Please give me all the info you can.

Thanks in advance,
Brady

Zepher

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If you are doing a total interior swap with Dash and door panels, it doesn't matter what car the interior comes from or what car it's going into.

If you are just doing seats and console, the console will be the hardest for you snce you have a camaro and your center console is connected to the heater/radio pod. On the birds, they are 2 separate units, making the swap easier.

Zepher

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Here are my window switches mounted in the ashtray,

Twistopher

Looking on the Speed Automotive site I noticed they must have made some changes between the 96 and the 97 models for the interior console. Does anyone know what the differences are there between these years?

Zepher

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97+ has the flip out Cup Holder.

stuart69427

mmmmmmmmm PEPSI............... PEPSI GOOOOOOOOD!!!!!!!

1stgenracer

ok, I am about to order everything, but 1 more question, is there any way that i can use my stock gauges in the new firebird dash or will i have to do a custom setup? thanks

SUPER CHEVY66

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Ok i have got a question i really want to do a 4th gen dash and door panels but i have autometer gauges that i want to use. I was thinking that i could fab up a panel to house the gauges 2 5 inch gauges and 3 2 and 1/16 inch gauges but will they fit in the housing or not. And finally if i use aftermarket gauges how can i set up the dummy lights any info is appreciated thanks Dave.

Twistopher

One more question... In all the photos of 4th gen consoles I only saw them in firebirds. I was wondering if someone has picks of those around the radio area. The lower console on the camaros dont break at the radio are like they do on the firebird. I think I saw a picture of one but the steering wheel was blocking the view.

Zepher

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Here is my door panel, looks good doesn't it? Too bad it wouldn't fit right with the 3rd gen dash.


Everything you do with the 4th gen dash is going to be custom.
Easiest way and the only way I can think of to get the stock 4th gen gauges to work is to do an engine/tranny and ECM swap at the same time.

1stgenracer

WOW, this seems like alot of work, i guess that i will just go with the EVO. kit, it is expensive, but easier, At least i hope so!

mGiTkAe92

wildwood.... spring..... shows? no 3rd gens?... just show us the maps....
no kidding where and when? any web sites for this?
and which show at carlise ?
am planning on attending trans am nat's as well.....

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