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86 IROC,canary yellow(originally black),fully loaded.305TPI WITH 700R4/SHIFT KIT,3:73 POSI REAR,4 WHEEL DISC BRAKES,T-TOPS,POWER LOCKS,POWER WINDOWS,TILT,CRUISE,SADDLE INTERIOR,POWER ANTENNAE,SPOILER OFF 87 IROC SO NO THIRD BRAKE LIGHT ON ROOF,16" BY 8" RIMS OFF 89 IROC,3"INCH EXHAUST WITH A 2 CHAMBER FLOWMASTER AND 3 1/2" BY 18" LONG CHROME TIPS,20% TINT ON SIDES,HATCH AND T-TOPS,GTS TAILLIGHT COVERS,AFTERMARKET FOG LIGHTS,PIONEER 180 WATT CD RECIEVER AND DETACHABLE FACEPLATE,WITH JENSON SPEAKERS ALL AROUND,TALKING RADAR DETECTOR"BACON ALERT"

....Long live the EIGHTIES!!!and my love for the IROCZ

bird67

Here is a photo of my engine from my 1967, after I got done detailing it. It looked liked goats lived in it when I started - wet goats at that. I did all this with the engine STILL in the car.

What would you like to know?

Scott_92RS

Holy crap. That engine is beautiful! What did you use to paint it?

bird67

Hi Scott - thanks for the compliment. Responding to you and Mike: I did not want to remove my engine from the car to detail it. It runs great, even with 125,000 on it, and it was the beginning of summer and I didn't want to lose any cruising time. So I chose to detail the engine in the car.

The first thing you do is remove and label everything (unless you've got a photographic memory). The valve covers were flaked and pitted, so I hand-sanded those. With everything removed I was able to hand-sand the block. With the block sanded, I shot it with high-temp engine primer (critical, otherwise the paint will flake off).

I waited 48 hours, then shot it with Plasti-kote Fast-Dry Engine Enamel, Pontiac Metallic Blue, No. 227. I did this four years ago, it hasn't begun to flake off yet. Regarding the color, some have said the actual Pontiac metallic engine blue from this era engine had a very slight greenish tint to it. My understanding, borne out by my experience, is that the color is correct - over time and use, the blue tends to get cooked by engine heat, which is why over time they changed color slightly. In other words people who think the correct color was blue with a green tint were looking at engines that had some miles on it and the color had faded.

I used yards of masking tape and several sunday newspapers. I had old color photographs of what the correct colors were for everything, and what I didn't know I asked at the firstgenfirebird listserv. I was able to paint the firewall for example with, I believe, a proper semi-flat.

I want to point out that this is a driven car -I took that photo after putting many miles on the car following the detailing. Once you get it to look like this, it's much easier to keep it this way! The hardest aspect of keeping it looking this way is the crud that accumulates in the valley pan, it's a known aspect of Pontiac engines that they seem to ooze oil and crud from their pores.

zee28

that 86 iroc is gonna be alot harder to do with the engine in the car.the older cars have half the stuff on the firewall and fenders.I have a 86 iroc and have been thinkin about doing this for a while.I am gonna remove what i can easily and cover the rest.Its gotta look better then it does now.The only problem will be down beside the motor,around the steering box,etc.

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~mike~86 IROC-Z

cvpde37

Mine is an 84 and carbed. I did mine with the engine out of the car over the winter 6 years ago. I took everything pretty much down to bare metal and painted the frame and firewall with POR15 and the rest is primered and painted. I suppose a little overboard, but I like it.




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1984 Z28 350
Never argue with an idiot, they'll just bring you down to their level and beat you with experience
My Web Page

RenoLB8

I just had to compliment you guys on those engines, they're downright inspiring. I'm thinking about swapping engines in the late summer, and after what I've just seen, I'll definately clean, restore, and repaint the bay while it's empty.

-Reno

Purple 92 SS

Where did you get your chrome hood latch mechanism and where did you get that <guessing aluminum> polished aluminum air deflector that covers the entire radiator. I have a 92 and would absolutely LOVE to have one like yours.

Thanks
-Steve
92 rs/ss frankencamaro
406/t5
www.groundzerocustoms.org

Scott_92RS

Do you happen to have a drawing that has the measurements for the chrome hood latch wrap-around thing (dont know what to call it). I would love to have something similar! Awsome job on the engine bay!

cvpde37

Sorry I don't have the measurements for the latch panel cover and the rad. hold down. I had those pieces custom fabbed at J & B Microfinish. There is a link to their site on my web page. You could always email him and ask him if he saved the info. I'm laid up right now, but as soon as I can I will measure them and post it back here. The hood latch is just the original--chromed at the Chrome Shop (also a link on the page)

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1984 Z28 350
Never argue with an idiot, they'll just bring you down to their level and beat you with experience
My Web Page

mcconahay37

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Great cars both of you guys. If I ever mange to track down all my leaks, I'll get my engine compartment cleaned up too. That way, I won't have to be embarrase when I open the hood.

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82 Camaro:
350, Erson cam, ported heads, Crane Hi-6 ignition, Accel supercoil, Comp Cams 1.6:1 rocker arms, Turbo 350 tranny with 2500 stall.

Adam89F

My bad

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Adam89F

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British Columbia Enthusiast
1989 Formula 305 TBI

25th anniversarry RS

Bird 67.. I believe that is the correct color, i read about that pain in High Performance Pontiav awile back. I used the same paint on my 69 GTO. 66 is the first year of that color i believe because i also have a 65 which is more blue/green with no metalic.

bird67

crazeinc

My engine is nowhere as impressive as Les's or Bird67's but for no body work or painting experience I got my engine looking like that after a month or so worth of work. I got some of it down to the bare metal where it was starting to rust, but for the most part it was primered and painted. The picture helps cover up a lot of the blemishes, though. The engine paint is also starting to peel a bit, so I'd like to take it out and redo it when I swap the heads, cam, and converter. I didn't take it out when I cleaned it up in the first place.

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1982 Camaro Z28

should be running 11's this spring...we'll see
Check the website for progress http://members.fbody.com/Pro82Z/

bird67

I promised to scan in a photo of my "before" picture of the engine compartment of my '67 firebird convertible. I got my scanner working so here goes.

before:
after:

bird67

And after:

[img]http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1483095&a=11173602&p=41451269[img]

Sonar_un

OMG Bird 67.. did that thing even run?!

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Houston f-body Member Page
Third Gen Project (New Site)
1989 305 tbi Camaro RS Red/Red
Ram Air II Hood
Flowmasters
Edelbrock Open Element

"Stock?! Theres nothing "stock" about a stock car."

John Millican

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86 Camaro Sport
383 Speed-O-Motive Crate Engine, Trick Flow Twisted Wedge G2's, 58mm Accel TB, 3.73 Auburn Pro, SLP Cold Air Induction and Headers, Dynomax Cat-back, Serpentine Belt Setup, Dual IROC Fans, Jamex springs, 16" IROC Rims, 36mm/24mm Sway Bars, Global West Steering Brace. Hotchkis Rear LCA's,Panhard Bar and SFC's.
My Camaro Project

bird67

LOL! Yeah, not only did it run, there's a funny story. My buddies are all Mopar freaks. They were giving me grief about buying a Pontiac. After I bought the car I needed a ride to go pick it up, about 1.5 hrs away. My buddies gave me a ride up in a Mopar minivan. The firebird, looking just like what you see above (that photo was one of a series I took when I first found the car in a chicken barn), ran great. On the way home, the Mopar minivan died - transmission failure. Good thing we had the reliable, 28-year-old Pontiac that hadn't run in 3 years as our safety vehicle! We abandoned the minivan and all piled in the Pontiac, made it home without a hitch.