bullfrawg

I have the RPO code AAA in on my project car.
When i look it up it says this.
"AAA : 4-WAY MANUAL SEAT ADJUSTER "
I am not sure it has the right seats.
Does anyone know what movements a 4-way seat should have?

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1985 TransAm BLK/BLK
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LI Tommy

Foward/back (towards and away from the dash) and the back peice goes up and reclines. Hope I said that right.

bullfrawg

IF i originally had the seat that tilted i would have another code such as AH3 or something wouldn't i?

LI Tommy

Ok now I'm confused. I answered last night before I verified the info in the Parts and Illustrations Catalog. I took the AAA as 4 way and just described that.

Back to tonight: I just grabbed the catalog and looked up AAA and it's not listed. Like you said AH3 is the manual four way, which is what I described. Then I looked at the pics of my RPOs before I tore the car apart and I too have AAA. Where did you look that up? Can anyone else shine some light on this?

EDIT; Does anyone have a reliable, verifiable, source for the AAA rpo?

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Keith5

That is not a 4 way seat, a 4 way seat moves forward/back, tilts(forward/back) the whole seat tilts, the recline doesn't count.

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LI Tommy

The butt part "reclines" as well? I've never seen that.

So what's with the AAA RPO?

Keith5

Is there no one who knows anything in this forum?

bullfrawg

keith you are wrong. Here is the code list. http://www.socal-fbodies.org/resource/rpo.txt
My car has code AAA for both seats so I believe that it means move forward, back, and the back reclines up and down. The Chevrolet dealer agrees with me and says that you could have ordered the base seperate and he says the base could be ordered seperately and that if it moved forward, back and tilted that the base itself was called a 4-way seat, that after the reclining back was there it was a 6-way seat. He said the new ones diregard the back and would call the one that would be a code AAA on ours,a 2 way with recline. Refering directly to the base and the back will always be 2-way unless you get the fully adjustable seat. I do not know the code for the new ones. Also I found somewhere that if there was a change in the seats then AAA was used. Like it was on mine, being a pocket on back of the seat.



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Keith5

Bullfrawg is full of S H I T.

You haven't talked to any dealer. Everybody with a firebird that has a seat that reclines(not tilt) and moves forward and back, go look at your RPO sticker see if you have code AAA, AR9 or both.

bullfrawg

You know whats funny Keith you have code AAA on your car and code AH3. AAA refers to both your seats and AH3 to your drivers seat. Tell me, does you passenger seat tilt?? I think not. You are wrong. Does anybody else have code AAA and have both their seats only move forward,back and have the back recline??

Keith5

You don't know which seats that refers to, you are only speculating.

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LI Tommy

Yeah. I have code AAA and both of my orignial seats reclinded and moved foward and back and that's all they did.

EDIT:
WTF is your problem. I'm not running the board acting like a fu(king thirdgen God. I for one think that you need to chill out. If you don't feal like answering a question DON'T. You don't have to come in and knock on people like that. If you feal like we don't know anything go somewhere else when they do. OK champ? You need to get a life and GROW UP.

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bullfrawg

thanks Tommy

LI Tommy

No problem. Hey Keith would you like pictures killer? Or do you not believe them either?


Oh yeah
Maybe you just need to tighten the mounting bolts.

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Keith5

LI Tommy, what year is your car? Did you buy it from the dealer? Do you have an owner's manual? Look up seat adjusting if you want to see the picture of the optional 4 way seat that my car had in it.

You've never seen an entire seat that tilts? Ever seen a power seat, they tilt. I have a manual 4 way seat in my friends building the whole thing will tilt, but one of the tracks broke that's why it's not in the car now. My brother has the about the same seat in his '94 z28, manual 4 way.

bullfrawg

Keith you have the optional 4-way seat. That is not code AAA that is just the base part code AH3. Your passenger seat is an AAA not your driver. Your driver is an 4-way AH3 base with the 2-way AAA reclining back. Making it a 6-way seat. If you had the regular AAA package you would have a 2-way base + a 2-way reclining back(4-way). Most people refer to your camaro seat as a 6-way power seat because it is a lot easier to say than a 6-way power base with a manual 2-way reclining back.

Keith5

That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

2thpick

the seat reclining has nothing to do with it being a 4-way or 6-way seat.

Keith5

What about 2thpick's car? His reclines, moves forward/back, and his car doesn't have the AAA code. And don't say it's a chevy vs pontiac thing, they don't build cars in the same plant with codes meaning different things.

LI Tommy

http://members.aol.com/tommy84firebird/aaa.jpg
http://members.aol.com/tommy84firebird/seat.jpg

Take notice of the AAA rpo. Now take notice of my seat...nothing special here. Damn some people here are so stupid.

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Keith5

Yeah no ****, did you buy your car new? Do you know for sure you have the original seats?

Keith5

The ealier 4 way models were adjusted by a **** on the side. That's the way it's shown in my '85 camaro book

LI Tommy

gee your right they might not be the orignal seats. The girl who had it before me bought it new. See would defiently lie when I asked her what she put into it. Hmm I think new seats are a selling point how about you? And gee look at that all of the other RPOs match and they are the correct color and style. I think maybe someone came in at night when she wasn't looking and changed the rusted on bracket.

LI Tommy

Would you like me to take some more pictures? Don't go making fun of someone till you make sure that you know what you are talking about

Keith5

WTF? Like I keep telling bullfrawg, I know what I'm talking about.

When did you buy your car? Like another base couldn't have rusted to the car before you bought it. Explain why 2thpick's camaro doesn't have AAA, and it moves forward/back and reclines.

EDIT: She didn't have to get a new seat if her 4 way base broke and she needed another base, she could just put a 2 way base on.

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LI Tommy

Well let me put it o you this way. I know those are the original seats. I bought the car in 98 from a girlwho was the orignial ower. She got it when she was a junior in HS and drove it until she went to college 2 years later. During her college time she drove it for a couple of weeks a year until she got out. After that she got a new car and her father kept it in the garage until 96 when he started to drive it to "regain his youth" as she put it. After a while he bought a new vette which was in the drive way when I picked it up. In that time I am sure the seats weren't changed. When the seats were finally removed everything was well worn in. The rest of the RPOs match and the color is correct. If she had changed the seats she would have told me. Maybe you don't know what your talking about. Why do me and Bullfrawg have the AAA code and the same typoe of seats?

Keith5

The only reason I can think of is that the bases have been changed. This is very possible on his. His seat was so worn that on the edge the fabric had worn away, then the foam, and it was down to bare metal.

If my 4 way base broke, I figure the other 4 way bases might be prone to break too, my car had 89,000 on it, the base had been broke for a while when I bought the car, they had already tried to fix it once with a "splint" type deal.

EDIT: I bought my car from the 2nd owner, a girl bought mine in '89, then 2 years ago her dad bought it from her, then last year I bought it from him.

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LI Tommy

Who the hell would change the base on a seat that worn? In that case I would expect the whole seat to be changed. And that still doesn't explain my seats any way. The seats were worn in the normal spots but nothing drastic.

Keith5

I just meant the car has so many miles on it, his base could have been changed at 89K and now I think it has 230K on it, it might be 130K but I don't think so.

My seat is in good condition, I didn't get 2 way base for it becaue I figured I could fix the 4 way base, I went to a junkyard and got just the track off a 2 way seat. Well that won't work! So I have my maro's power seat in there for the time being, 4th gen seats are in the plans.

LI Tommy

OK I say we kill this since the whole thing is rediculous. I'm plannign the same 4th gen seats for the bird and at that ppoint none of the damn RPOs are going to make a difference. What i still don't understand is that in the 82-87 Parts and Illustration catalog there is no AAA RPO listed yet I have it on my sticker. Where did the AAA coded get verified?

Keith5

I hope I can get seats like in my brother's '94 Z, he has the same 4 way seat my car is supposed to have, if I got a set with seats like that, then that would be kinda cool.