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Old 10-09-2011 | 11:02 AM
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another build thread

so i saw how others have build threads so i thought i would do the same.

this will be very slow going but at least ill have something to show my progress.

i current plan is to take my 91 camaro that i totalled and combine it with an 88 that i recently got.

the 88 is a very good 99% rust free body but has a catch... it has almost NO electrical or anything not needed for a drag car. so what to do? i thought to myself why not take everything i need off my white car? well that sounded simple enough.

my goal is to make a G-Machine inspired camaro. ls1,6speed,lowered,good handling, but ultimately a street car.
Here is the only rendering I have right now
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Mods planed:

Exterior:
Grabber blue with gloss black accents. nascar style spoiler,brake ducts where blinkers are,custom led lights everywhere, His retrofit, remove amber from rear lights,functional hood louvers,remove trim,relocate battery and washer tank to rear,4th gen overflow,wire tuck as possible,zr1 style iroc emblems,viper or equivalent gas cap and filler neck,and custom recovery hook modeled off of nufnuf.

under the car i want to show off the suspension so most will be black with the exception of those pieces. same with under the hood. i would like to keep the satin black and might even put a engine cover on to keep water off with the louvers.

Suspension:
umi:wonderbar(done),sfc(done),roto joint lca,roto joint phb,weld in lcarb(done),edelbrock 3pt strut tower brace. spohn t56 torque arm(done),extended ball joints,del-a-lums,bump steer kit,36/18 sway bar,caster camber plates,ast dampers(done), ground control weight jacks 1000/225 springs.

Interior:
Dakota digital ,Fixed back cobra racing seats, crow harness, 6 or 4 point cage with modified door bar to go under armrest,suede covered dash and other interior parts,custom switch plate(done),rear seat delete? B&m shifter(done),custom shift ****(done)


Drivetrain:
t56,aluminum (ls1)driveshaft, Eaton trutrac,3.73 gears, 28spline axles,rear support cover, Arp studs, wilwood fsl/c5 front brakes , adjustable rear proportional valve, branded lines.
Engine:
Lt1,, 3.5 inch hooker aero chamber, accu sump,canton road race oil pan, oil cooler,and a true cold air intake

Wheels/tires:
Backup set of ctw motorsports
Ccw classics 18x10.5 proper backspacing(6.5"?) and shims to have exact wheels on every corner
Nitro invo 285or 295/35zr18 everywhere

and more that ill post as i remember




well here it goes this is the 88

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wish me luck!

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Old 10-09-2011 | 11:04 AM
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well i did do some work the other day.

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Old 10-09-2011 | 02:33 PM
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Slow and steady, good luck and post pics along the way
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pulled the front sway bar off the donnor car (34mm) painted it red. waiting on it to dry
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someone destroyed that poor car
Old 10-11-2011 | 05:21 PM
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not me right?
Old 10-11-2011 | 05:24 PM
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It looks pretty complete if you ask me. It looks like it has all the essentials for a carb car and should be a great place to start. Your wiring harness and whatnot should swap over with little to no issues. Do you have pics of your totaled car?
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well got lots done today but im soooooo involved now

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oh yeah here
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Old 10-11-2011 | 06:29 PM
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It's a shame your new one isn't t tops as well. I miss my t top car
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well i weighed that out... i didnt take them off much and they leak and once they are off, i think they mess up the lines on the car. not to mention the hardtop is lighter and more ridged.

well i was out there for 12 hours today..... im beat. shower,bed,work


who knows when ill do some more to it
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sprayed some unercoat on front suspension today...
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Best of luck man. It's a big project, but once your done you'll have a great sense of accomplishment! And hopefully you connect to the new car as much as with the old one. Take it from someone who has done it...it's worth it!
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Cool project, good to see that you're back in the scene despite your old one biting the dust. Good luck and keep us posted.
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yeah i cant give up the third gen bug! couldnt afford another one for quite some time but traded for this one!
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this is what i built on forza 3
pretty much the direction im wanting to go.
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so i got all the wiring switched from the white car to the red one yesterday! still afraid to hook it up to power tho. might start a fire lol

now i just need to figure out how to take the bumper off on the white car... the top two bolts on each side i cant get out
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so i got all the wiring switched from the white car to the red one yesterday! still afraid to hook it up to power tho. might start a fire lol

now i just need to figure out how to take the bumper off on the white car... the top two bolts on each side i cant get out
I did that LMAO. Just keep a shirt by your side in case you have to beat it out....it works. Ask me how I know hahaha.
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been there done that, the shirt is a great idea, insted of the shop rag with grease or some flamable liquid on it
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good luck on the build man.
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i need to trace wires still and get rid of what i dont need. then remote mount the bat and then start fires!
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i need to trace wires still and get rid of what i dont need. then remote mount the bat and then start fires!
Hell yea man. Fires are where it's at! You havn't built a car until you've started a fire! LOL.
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so i swaped hatches today. my 87 now has a high mount brake light, defrost and really old window tint lol
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how is this for a spoiler? i would like to put this on my car

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subscribed, best of luck!
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so since my car is outside, i put some silicone on the hatch where the metal meets the window as a temporary seal(going to paint) and to fill the holes in the car where a spoiler used to be. thought it would be easy to take off........ im not so sure now.

also i put in my 4th gen pedals the other day
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i got some more random stuff to install today.

i got a 4 guage amp wiring kit that im hoping to use for a remote bat kit and an alpine head unit for $50 i couldnt pass this up.

is a 4guage too small?
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i got some more random stuff to install today.

i got a 4 guage amp wiring kit that im hoping to use for a remote bat kit and an alpine head unit for $50 i couldnt pass this up.

is a 4guage too small?
You MAY be ok with a 4 gauge but do some research. I know most battery relocation kits including the one I bought come with 1 gauge cable....probably for a reason, but like I said, I'd do a little research on it to be sure.
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i know i see some with 2 i have heard of 4 but i wanna make sure. im just trying to save money. i already tried to find info but i could not find a good answer
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ok so back to the 4th gen pedals... who said they were a bolt on?! i cant get the top vertical bolt to line up with the hole!

also anyone know how to take out the top 4 nuts on the front bumper cover so i can take it off?
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ok so back to the 4th gen pedals... who said they were a bolt on?! i cant get the top vertical bolt to line up with the hole!

also anyone know how to take out the top 4 nuts on the front bumper cover so i can take it off?
I heard the 4th gen pedals were NOT an exact fit, and even when you modified them to actually fit, they didn't feel right with the clutch throw. I used my stock 3rd gen brake and clutch pedal assembly and all I had to do was slightly modify how the LS1 master cylinder rod clips to it. It was very easy and it feels like stock. Thats what I would recommend.

As far as the bumper bolts, I know what your talking about. Us firebird guys have it easy though because we just remove the headlight assembly and they are right there lol. Good luck with them though!
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i never had 3rd gen manual pedals. i pulled these off an old donor 4th gen. i am going to try and make these work. what wont feel right?

and a lot of help you are with the bumper! lol
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i never had 3rd gen manual pedals. i pulled these off an old donor 4th gen. i am going to try and make these work. what wont feel right?

and a lot of help you are with the bumper! lol
I just heard that the clutch pedal engages kind of low due to the pedal being longer on the 4th gen, or something along those lines. I MAY have a set of 3rd gen manual pedals lying around the house. I can check for ya if your interested...really can't remember if I ended up selling them or not but I thought I might still have them.

And sorry about the bumper lol. Gonna need a camaro guy for help on that one!
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i dont need it for the moment but i might when i find problems later (2 years from now lol)
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It works!

I just need to sort through these
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i finally got my iroc hood! the white car is now gone, it was my first but now i dont have to worry about it cluttering things up!
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so its been awhile since i have updated... not a whole lot done. i finally installed my spohn ta. it was taking up valuable space and my rear end was digging its yolk into the tunnel. i also bought a used umi wonderbar from a member and installed that. i have some 800lbs/inch springs that i bought from BIG_MODS that im waiting on and will install once i get weight jacks
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i really hate doing this outside, and i really need to undercoat the car so it doesnt look so bad

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oh! and i put in my tilt wheel from my 91 in the car.
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Looking good man. I love the look of some nice shiny new parts under a 3rd gen! And yea, working outside sucks. I'm spoiled with my garage, but when I have to change the oil on my beater or fix it in this new england cold, I hate it!
Old 02-05-2012 | 09:24 PM
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i just hate that the car looks.... country to say it lightly. i really cant wait to build a car that brings pride to our third gens and give us a good name. not a joe dirt ride.

i have a guy(cagedruss) that i cant communicate with that we threw ideas for a spoiler around.

even though it will be awhile before the car is painted or complete, i think it will completely change the look of the car.


funny thing happened to me the other day while i was sitting in the car. i was playing around with the radio, when a mouse crawled out from the e-brake slot. it scared me at first and then i got really mad that a mouse was possibly eating all the wires that i put in. so i tried to chase it down(dismantleing the interior in the process) and never found it. that is another good reason why i HATE having that car outside.
Old 02-05-2012 | 09:28 PM
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https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-u...0/DSCF0005.JPG

like this
Old 02-08-2012 | 09:57 AM
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Subscribed. Beautiful job so far.
Old 02-17-2012 | 01:12 PM
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Just curious, where in oklahoma are you?
Old 02-17-2012 | 02:01 PM
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car is looking good. i also found a mouse in the car im working on, lots of sticky glue pads and a bunch of dryer sheets will do the trick. yes dryer sheets put them in some of the little places mice like to go for some reason they dont like the smell and will leave, there is a lot of farmers here that do that when they store equipment for the year
Old 02-17-2012 | 04:02 PM
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Looking good. I'd like to see this one through.
Old 02-17-2012 | 07:51 PM
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I'm in Chandler. I wanna see this through too.

Drier sheets?
Old 02-22-2012 | 05:40 PM
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the sheets you put in your drier when you dry your cloths . fabric softener sheets is what they really are called sorry for that. try it out it works.
Old 03-08-2012 | 12:55 AM
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Was able to check it out the other day and I caught the mouse! I have a tow hook that I modeled off of nufnuf that I would Luke to install. The only things I have been able to do lately is very small things. I am keeping the big money so I can move into a house with a garage. I need to keep my motivation up!
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well not much to report.

but i got rear brakes off of an old ls1 car so i can compleate my 4th gen rear(96lt1 with ls1brakes)they need to be cleaned up and painted before install.
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i think i might undercoat the car,remove gas tank before i install this rear.might even buy some more umi pieces before it goes in. who knows.

i def need to install lcarb


any suggestions?



btw mouse was caught, and now gone!

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