What's the best way to fix this...
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Car: 1989 Camaro RS
Engine: 305 TBI
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What's the best way to fix this...
Thanks in advance. Considering buying this car. It also needs head gaskets and floor pans. I have a good donor car for the pans. Comes with gaskets.
It's a 305TPI IROC Z28 w/ 5Speed. Asking price is $800. You guys think it's a good deal?
It's a 305TPI IROC Z28 w/ 5Speed. Asking price is $800. You guys think it's a good deal?
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Re: What's the best way to fix this...
New door.
A non running car with rotted floor boards and a 305?
Without seeing the rest of the pics, I'd pass at any price unless you've got DEEP pockets.
A non running car with rotted floor boards and a 305?
Without seeing the rest of the pics, I'd pass at any price unless you've got DEEP pockets.
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Car: 1991 RS
Engine: 350tbi
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Re: What's the best way to fix this...
I wouldn't do it sounds like too much money for a 305 with a rust issue. There is bound to be more rust if the floor pans need replacing.
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Car: 1989 Camaro RS
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Re: What's the best way to fix this...
I was worried that was going to be the response.
I don't have a big enough budget to build a show car... but a running V8 with a 5 speed? I'm not aiming for the sky, I just want a fun car.
I mean... for 800 bucks and a few weekends... Sure it's not a steal, but anybody sorta lean toward the 'do it' persuasion?
I don't have a big enough budget to build a show car... but a running V8 with a 5 speed? I'm not aiming for the sky, I just want a fun car.
I mean... for 800 bucks and a few weekends... Sure it's not a steal, but anybody sorta lean toward the 'do it' persuasion?
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Car: 1992 Camaro RS 25th Anniversary
Engine: 3.4L v6 with a t3/t4 Turbo
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Axle/Gears: 3.23 SLP Limited Slip
Re: What's the best way to fix this...
i do...if nothing else you can part it and make some money off of it
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Car: 91 z28/2014 charger
Engine: 350/ v6
Transmission: 700r4/ auto
Re: What's the best way to fix this...
i would say don't do it. but in the next breath i would ask where the car is located and the for the person's number! in all seriousness if the price is 800 take them 500 cash and negotiate from there. i say go for it.
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Car: 86 Trans Am, 92 Firebird
Engine: 408 sbc, 3.1L of raw power
Transmission: TKO600, T5
Axle/Gears: Moser 9", 3:70 trutac, 3:23 torsion
Re: What's the best way to fix this...
The floors are my largest concern, they are not easy to just swap out. And if they are bad enough, you could have issues with the cars structure itself.
there are enough good, semi rust free 3rd gen out there that i could pass on this one too.
that door rot is a bit scary, i dont see how rust would start behind the molding unless something was "fixed" and they never painted the door before they put the moldings on. i would be curious to look the car over and see how bad it is elsewhere.
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From: Virginia Beach, VA
Car: 1985 Firebird S/E
Engine: SBC 350, mild cam Vortec heads
Transmission: Rebuilt 700R4 vette servo+shift kit
Axle/Gears: 3.73
Re: What's the best way to fix this...
i say if you can get it for $400 or $500 its worth it the gaskets can be done in a weekend easy and the floors lets say i removed my entire interior dye'd everything and re installed in 2 days i would say floors could be done in 1 to 2 weekends like you stated u don't care about the 305 vs 350 i would do it worst case u get it for 4 or 5 and change your mind you can get your money back from the 5 speed
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Car: 1985 Firebird S/E
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Re: What's the best way to fix this...
and you don't need a new door get a 2x4 and wrap a blanket on it use it to knock off that molding then sand it down skim it with bondo to even it out and try to match the color the best you can if its just something to cruise around in
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Re: What's the best way to fix this...
the assumption is that it only needs head gaskets and that is based upon the opinion of a seller who bought the head gaskets yet didn't install them and, let the car get into this level of shape without even so much as sanding it a few years back and putting on primer
caveat emptor
caveat emptor
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Car: 1985 Firebird S/E
Engine: SBC 350, mild cam Vortec heads
Transmission: Rebuilt 700R4 vette servo+shift kit
Axle/Gears: 3.73
Re: What's the best way to fix this...
the assumption is that it only needs head gaskets and that is based upon the opinion of a seller who bought the head gaskets yet didn't install them and, let the car get into this level of shape without even so much as sanding it a few years back and putting on primer
caveat emptor
caveat emptor
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From: Central NJ
Car: 86 Trans Am, 92 Firebird
Engine: 408 sbc, 3.1L of raw power
Transmission: TKO600, T5
Axle/Gears: Moser 9", 3:70 trutac, 3:23 torsion
Re: What's the best way to fix this...
how do you know it needs headgaskets? could be something less, or much more (cracked heads/block from overheating?)
woundn't happen to have pics of the floors do you?
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Car: 1985 Firebird S/E
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Re: What's the best way to fix this...
if i can remove everything and dye it which requires dry time i know he needs to do his floor pans i dye'd everything in my car in 3 days all rugs panels everything in my car was out and back in and as i said 1 or 2 weekends extra time for the welding and as i also said a weekend to do the head gasket and when you pull the heads you will know if the motor needs more but my point has been missed it is worth the investment because you can get your money back no matter what
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From: Central NJ
Car: 86 Trans Am, 92 Firebird
Engine: 408 sbc, 3.1L of raw power
Transmission: TKO600, T5
Axle/Gears: Moser 9", 3:70 trutac, 3:23 torsion
Re: What's the best way to fix this...
but in reality, without and other info other than a piture of the door, its hard to really tell what going on.
if it was just a bad engine, that fine, it can be rebuilt or replaced, but when these cars start to rot, they go to hell fast. It can turn into a rear basketcase.
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Car: 91 GTA
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Re: What's the best way to fix this...
Buddy bought a jeep like this once. After I told him hell no don't touch it. It broke in half going down the road. He was out 800 dollars plus another 250 for towing and fines.
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Car: 1989 Camaro RS
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Re: What's the best way to fix this...
Wow. Thanks for weighing in everyone. Head Gasket issues were diagnosed by a reputable shop. The seller apparently has a receipt to verify this was the diagnosis.
My best guess is the car was bondo-ed and MAACO-ed less than three years ago. Clear coat still looks good, aside from a few trouble spots. Floor pans look... bad. Nice big hole in front of driver seat. Another one behind passenger seats.
My best guess is the car was bondo-ed and MAACO-ed less than three years ago. Clear coat still looks good, aside from a few trouble spots. Floor pans look... bad. Nice big hole in front of driver seat. Another one behind passenger seats.
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So, it looks like I'm going to have to learn how to color match well with my garage sprayer.
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Car: 1989 Camaro RS
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Re: What's the best way to fix this...
the assumption is that it only needs head gaskets and that is based upon the opinion of a seller who bought the head gaskets yet didn't install them and, let the car get into this level of shape without even so much as sanding it a few years back and putting on primer
caveat emptor
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Ha Latin class. The kid selling it isn't very handy with a wrench and ran out of money, I think.
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