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Old 02-09-2011 | 05:41 PM
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You might hate me but...

Alright guys , this is the deal. Just got my car back from the body shop, has fresh paint which needs to be wet sanded and buffed, and then the body parts put on.

This is a Z28 clone project which used to be a 84 sport coupe,


This is my point...I think I am going to leave the middle rocker panels off and just have the front chin spoiler, rear quarters and bumper. My personal opinion is it looks better without the middle rocker panels, it makes the car look thinner in the middle, longer and an overall sleeker look.

Now before yall name all the different horrible things about this listen, since it was a sport coupe, the body doesnt have the mounting holes and slots down low, so to not have them on doesn't look weird because there are visible holes, it looks....natural.

Shout your opinions, because once I tap holes into the body I am not turning back..

Ill get some pics up soon too. I have some of everything put together minus the middle rocker panels, so yall have a better idea of my point of view.
Old 02-09-2011 | 06:35 PM
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Personally I don't think its something I'd do, but I'm interested to see the pics.
Old 02-09-2011 | 10:25 PM
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My concern is that it will look unfinished.(half of a clone) Anyone that knows anything about ThirdGen.s will see that right away. But to each their own. I'm also interested in photos.
Old 02-09-2011 | 10:27 PM
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I think when you get it put togethor you will change your mind. Just won't look right.
Old 02-10-2011 | 01:40 AM
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I kind of agree with the others... However, that said, it is your car! Do it the way that feels right for you. Also want to see pics!
Old 02-10-2011 | 03:23 AM
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My opinion is if you leave the rocker panels off, also build back the sports coupe nosecone and rear, and definately leave the 3 piece ducktail off.

With new paint, 17" rims (no whitewall tyres!) and new exterior glass that would look killer
Old 02-10-2011 | 07:15 AM
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Definitely interested in pics....can't really give an opinion, it's your car, make it your own....gotta love originality
Old 02-11-2011 | 12:34 AM
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Re: You might hate me but...

Originally Posted by ronusmcmma
My concern is that it will look unfinished.(half of a clone) Anyone that knows anything about ThirdGen.s will see that right away. But to each their own. I'm also interested in photos.
Yeah that's what in worried about. Everyone and their mother knows they are supposed to have them. So it might take away more then give it.

Originally Posted by chevysquid
I think when you get it put togethor you will change your mind. Just won't look right.
Probably so! It snowed all today so I didn't get a chance to fit the parts.

Originally Posted by the solitaire


My opinion is if you leave the rocker panels off, also build back the sports coupe nosecone and rear, and definately leave the 3 piece ducktail off.

With new paint, 17" rims (no whitewall tyres!) and new exterior glass that would look killer
Haha, just paid and did a lot of work to switch from the sport coupe, had that for long enough, not a big fan of how those sc look.

Originally Posted by Soupjmpr
Definitely interested in pics....can't really give an opinion, it's your car, make it your own....gotta love originality
I'll get some pics up tomorrow. It snowed last night and all day so didn't get to work on it and get some pics.
Old 02-11-2011 | 08:06 AM
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Re: You might hate me but...

To each their own, but I think it would look bad. It's gonna look like a body kit.
Old 02-11-2011 | 11:15 AM
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Re: You might hate me but...

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To each their own, but I think it would look bad. It's gonna look like a body kit.

Yeah, it was just a thought. I don't want to do anything that's going to take away from te car. I was just kinda interested how y'all would react about it. That being said, a couple of my local guys are all for it. They agree that it gives it a longer sleeker look.
Old 02-11-2011 | 04:33 PM
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Re: You might hate me but...

Here are some pics guys!








Give me your thoughts,

How does my paint job look? Still has yet to be wet sanded and buffed.
Old 02-11-2011 | 04:38 PM
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Re: You might hate me but...

With that color it doesn't stick out to bad. My only suggestion is to lose the rear window louvers. Other than that it looks good.
Old 02-11-2011 | 04:40 PM
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Re: You might hate me but...

The color looks nice, as for the rockers, i guess I'm a traditionalist. But what ever greases your monkey, It's up to you.
Old 02-11-2011 | 04:43 PM
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Re: You might hate me but...

Originally Posted by RS Chris
With that color it doesn't stick out to bad. My only suggestion is to lose the rear window louvers. Other than that it looks good.

Haha, i am kinda a fan of the louvers though....

Originally Posted by red rock
The color looks nice, as for the rockers, i guess I'm a traditionalist. But what ever greases your monkey, It's up to you.
Yeah, i didnt get a chance to dry fit them today, so I havent "seen" them on in person, my guess is that when i see them on im gonna fall in love.
Old 02-11-2011 | 08:24 PM
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Re: You might hate me but...

Personally it looks unfinished to me and I'd never do it. But it's your car.
Old 02-11-2011 | 08:44 PM
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Re: You might hate me but...

The point to be concerned with is that it's a well kept/cloned 3rd Gen. Who cares how you restore, it's another life for your 3rd. Oh crap you missed a factory sticker in the right spot under the hood...... SCRAP IT! All kidding aside we need guys like this............ Car could be in a trailer park with dubs
Old 02-11-2011 | 09:00 PM
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Re: You might hate me but...

makes me want to grab some side skirts,a cordless drill,and a hand full of drywall screws and finish this car.

Old 02-11-2011 | 09:09 PM
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Re: You might hate me but...

Originally Posted by regal301
makes me want to grab some side skirts,a cordless drill,and a hand full of drywall screws and finish this car.

Ya if I was A RI. Inspector for >19< years I would do the same
Old 02-11-2011 | 09:17 PM
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Ya if I was A RI. Inspector for >19< years I would do the same


don't hate because you own a 305
Old 02-11-2011 | 09:23 PM
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don't hate because you own a 305
I'm about 40 and just glad I got a reliable daily driver! I am jealous for my wimpy 3.8NA 82' Regal. She looks great but moves slow!
Old 02-12-2011 | 04:05 PM
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Re: You might hate me but...

Originally Posted by regal301
makes me want to grab some side skirts,a cordless drill,and a hand full of drywall screws and finish this car.

Thats the plan for monday!


Originally Posted by Dartht33bagger
Personally it looks unfinished to me and I'd never do it. But it's your car.

Yeah, I keep hearing that, plus I fitted the skirts on today and was like.....yup those are gonna have to be put on. J

Just not looking forward to having to tap those holes and take apart the interior to bolt them on...
Old 02-12-2011 | 06:04 PM
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Yeah, I keep hearing that, plus I fitted the skirts on today and was like.....yup those are gonna have to be put on. J

Just not looking forward to having to tap those holes and take apart the interior to bolt them on...[/QUOTE]

I think that's the right decision. Not that you have to agree with me, but you should anyway. Teehehehe
Old 02-13-2011 | 12:09 AM
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Re: You might hate me but...

i dont like it at all..it'd be better w/o any of the bottom kits....but I love these cars with the bottom kits
Old 02-13-2011 | 12:44 AM
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Re: You might hate me but...

The car looks really nice. If I were you I would consider using the rockers so you can mark it as a Iroc with all the badging including the door decal. There's something about letting everyone else see that its a Iroc-Z .I think silver/black rocker emblems with a black Iroc door emblem/decal. Thats what I'm running on mine.I see your car is a lot darker than mine so the black wont show as well. Maybe a different color then. I just really like the black.

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Old 02-13-2011 | 01:37 AM
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Re: You might hate me but...

Hey Ronus on the nor cal board we are thinking about doing a santa cruz, cruise. you should join in with us!
Old 02-13-2011 | 02:39 AM
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I think it looks good, like the color too. I wish I had a sport coupe instead of a IROC. When I bought my Roc I couldn't find a V8 Sport coupe. By the way I live in Alabaster.
Old 02-13-2011 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by ronusmcmma
The car looks really nice. If I were you I would consider using the rockers so you can mark it as a Iroc with all the badging including the door decal. There's something about letting everyone else see that its a Iroc-Z .I think silver/black rocker emblems with a black Iroc door emblem/decal. Thats what I'm running on mine.I see your car is a lot darker than mine so the black wont show as well. Maybe a different color then. I just really like the black.

That's the plan. Thinking silver iroc decals for the door though, I think they would show up better.

Originally Posted by BASSETT IROC 85
I think it looks good, like the color too. I wish I had a sport coupe instead of a IROC. When I bought my Roc I couldn't find a V8 Sport coupe. By the way I live in Alabaster.
Yeah? Why did you want a sport coupe?
No crap really!? I live in chelsea about 15 minutes down the road, drive through there lots have family over there,

We should meet up! Would love to see your car and meet a local third gen, there aren't many of us around these parts.
Old 02-13-2011 | 10:14 AM
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Yea honestly i think it needs the side rocker trim. As for the window louvers..i think with that color they look awesome. I had a 86 iroc that same exact color and loved it. It had window louvers as well that i would have kept except for the fact that they rattled around so bad on the highway (They were broken in a few places). I yanked them off and sold them as restorable for 90 bucks. Even in bad shape factory louvers command some good money.
Old 02-13-2011 | 10:53 AM
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Re: You might hate me but...

I think the car looks really nice but I really do live in a trailer park.
Old 02-13-2011 | 12:24 PM
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Re: You might hate me but...

I think the sport coupe looks cool. I like the roc also. I remember back in the day if you had a IROC you were it. I bought a new mustang in 86 and never wanted a Camaro. I think the Camaro handles better than a Mustang so I switched. My car is down right now for a engine swap and paint ,hope to get it on the road in a few months.
Old 02-13-2011 | 01:04 PM
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Re: You might hate me but...

Originally Posted by vistageek92
Here are some pics guys!


Give me your thoughts,

How does my paint job look? Still has yet to be wet sanded and buffed.
Not too bad. The dark red paint helps.

I prefer IROC hood louvers but that's just me.

As long as you're happy, that's all that counts.
Old 02-13-2011 | 01:14 PM
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Re: You might hate me but...

To me, it looks like you high centered the car and knocked the rockers off.
But a car is a mans second girl - it is whatever you like!
Old 02-13-2011 | 02:24 PM
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Re: You might hate me but...

Originally Posted by karr1988
I think the car looks really nice but I really do live in a trailer park.
Thanks man! Doesn't matter where you live, as long as you give it and your car love.

Originally Posted by BASSETT IROC 85
I think the sport coupe looks cool. I like the roc also. I remember back in the day if you had a IROC you were it. I bought a new mustang in 86 and never wanted a Camaro. I think the Camaro handles better than a Mustang so I switched. My car is down right now for a engine swap and paint ,hope to get it on the road in a few months.
I loved it while i had it. But i really do love the look of the z28/irocs.

Ah man, to bad. Just got my car back, been gone for 2 months. Glad to have it back.

What engine are you switching from and to?

Did you get a chance to visit World of Wheels at the BJCC? I was disappointed no one had a 3rd gen there. Other then that it was really awesome.

Originally Posted by The Project
Not too bad. The dark red paint helps.

I prefer IROC hood louvers but that's just me.

As long as you're happy, that's all that counts.
Yeah, I can't make up my mind about it, i think i like the blisters better because he gives the hood a nice curve from the side, I am gonna mod them to they actually vent this summer.

Originally Posted by subroc
Yea honestly i think it needs the side rocker trim. As for the window louvers..i think with that color they look awesome. I had a 86 iroc that same exact color and loved it. It had window louvers as well that i would have kept except for the fact that they rattled around so bad on the highway (They were broken in a few places). I yanked them off and sold them as restorable for 90 bucks. Even in bad shape factory louvers command some good money.
I personally love the louvers. I like them off, but i wouldnt do it unless i tented the windows.

These are factory louvers and are in perfect shape, when i bought the car they needed to be repainted so took them off and did that, made them look new again. I am really interested in getting the type that curves around the side of the window, i think those look bad a$$. But they are like $300+ The ones I have now run about $250.
Old 02-13-2011 | 05:08 PM
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Re: You might hate me but...

All or nothing IMO. It just doesn't look right to me.
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