Can I fix this myself?
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Can I fix this myself?
Got this dent above my rear tire. I don't have any bodywork experience but I'm willing to give it a try. What will it take to fix this?
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Re: Can I fix this myself?
Uh I don't know how to go about fixing it the right way, that can't be popped out.
What I'd do is push the bottom lip of the fender back up so it's strait and just fill it with bondo.
What I'd do is push the bottom lip of the fender back up so it's strait and just fill it with bondo.
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Re: Can I fix this myself?
its in a bad spot, right on the corner of the wheel opening lip. You cna hammer it back out with a hammer and dolley, but it will be really hard to get the line back. Take you time and you can probably get it most of the way back.
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Re: Can I fix this myself?
dont just slap filler on that and call it good. filler is only used to fill in small imperfections. there is way too much vibration in that spot to use alot of filler. it will just crack and fall out...
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Re: Can I fix this myself?
hammer and dolly the best you can to get it back to its original shape and puddy it. try not to hammer and dolly it too much, you'll weaken the metal tremendously. only hammer what you need, i would try finding a friend or someone you know show you in person how to go about it, it can be done
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Re: Can I fix this myself?
your right i didnt think about that, it could be. in that case i would get a hold of somebody who has a stud gun and it will take studs on and you can pull it out that way. id go to your nearest body shop and they might even pull it out for you for next to nothing if you plan on doing the body work
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The metal is double walled at that location. Your best bet is to use a welded stud puller and pull away. The only other option is a replacement panel. It will be a lot of work either way.
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Re: Can I fix this myself?
If you have a welder and know how to weld you could fix it without a stud puller. Another option would be to use a slide hammer with a screw attachment and drill a few small holes and pull it out that way. Your supposed to weld the holes back up but if you don't have a welder you COULD just bondo over them and that should outlast just slapping filler over it the way it is.
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Agreed. Slide hammer and stud welder would be best, but if you're not afraid of making it worse and you want to try a method on the cheap you can try some sheet metal screws and a pair of vice grips. Run the screw in, grip and pull. It may or may not work depending on how much force you can get vs. how good a bite the screw gets. Zip screws might end up holding better than teks.
Even if you could get behind that panel, the tight curve of that area would be very difficult for a beginner to hammer out and with the compound curve there is a lot of strength in that area, requiring quite a bit of force to get it to move.
Personally I wouldn't try to work the metal, I would fabricate instead by cutting that section out and welding in new metal. It's such a small area that it wouldn't be a big deal that way.
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Even if you could get behind that panel, the tight curve of that area would be very difficult for a beginner to hammer out and with the compound curve there is a lot of strength in that area, requiring quite a bit of force to get it to move.
Personally I wouldn't try to work the metal, I would fabricate instead by cutting that section out and welding in new metal. It's such a small area that it wouldn't be a big deal that way.
Mathius
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From: Hermann, MISSOURI
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Re: Can I fix this myself?
If you sectioned it and even if you do everything right, all your top coats will shrink down into where you sectioned it in the sunlight, and you'll see your repair. Idk how particular you want to get with that but stud gun will be the easiest for you I think
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Re: Can I fix this myself?
Stud gun sounds like my best bet. This one do the trick? http://www.harborfreight.com/dent-re...-kit-3223.html
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Re: Can I fix this myself?
Stud gun sounds like my best bet. This one do the trick? http://www.harborfreight.com/dent-re...-kit-3223.html
YEP...come on, u can do it !!!!!!!!!
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Re: Can I fix this myself?
man, just take the fender liner out and use a hammer and dolly to remove the worst of the dent. fill it with bondo and call it. it is not double walled there. just got to love all the stupid ideas you guys come up with
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And IIRC there is a panel attached to the underside of the quarter panel.
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Just gotta love all the stupid comments made by people that don't know the right answer!
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Re: Can I fix this myself?
the only problem is your prolly not gonna get a good ground with the stud gun there it prolly will work, just be careful not to pull the metal off with the stud
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Re: Can I fix this myself?
Grind off the area first. If you do pull out the stud and leave a hole just put the stud back in the hole, weld it then grind it off. Those things can start a fire so you may want to get some access in there. Maybe take off the speaker cover, speaker and the insulation behind the speaker. There's not a lot of stuff in that area that will burn but there is some panel bond between the quarter and wheelhouse and whatever else may have gotten in there over the years. Start around the outside of the dent first then work your way to the deepest part. Use as little pull as needed at first. Remember when you get to the deeper parts that the surrounding metal will move out as well. You don't want to stretch the metal and make a big knot or high spot. If you get one you may want to get an old fender or something to practice with.
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Re: Can I fix this myself?
ok mr. moderator I looked at it wrong! ur right, ya feel better now, lord knows I'd hate to get a moderator mad on this site.
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No reason to get your panties bunched up. You're the one that said it wasn't double walled after I said that it was and you were the one that said our ideas were stupid instead of doing it your way! I just requested that you show us how to do it your way then.
Too many things are incorrectly stated on these boards and when bad information gets out, it gets used everywhere.
Too many things are incorrectly stated on these boards and when bad information gets out, it gets used everywhere.
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Re: Can I fix this myself?
There's 100 different ways to fix this dent and 100 differentvpeople that will put their $0.02 in. if everybody did everything the same than nobody would be getting there way to fix it across to people. I think he has enough judgement to choose whatever is necessary to fix it. I've fixed enough quarter panels like that to know what works and what doesn't and all that really matters is that you get it out the best of your ability and use as little amount of putty you can.
IMO: your not going to get it to look perfect until somebody shows you in person and helps you
IMO: your not going to get it to look perfect until somebody shows you in person and helps you
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Re: Can I fix this myself?
There's 100 different ways to fix this dent and 100 differentvpeople that will put their $0.02 in. if everybody did everything the same than nobody would be getting there way to fix it across to people. I think he has enough judgement to choose whatever is necessary to fix it. I've fixed enough quarter panels like that to know what works and what doesn't and all that really matters is that you get it out the best of your ability and use as little amount of putty you can.
IMO: your not going to get it to look perfect until somebody shows you in person and helps you
IMO: your not going to get it to look perfect until somebody shows you in person and helps you
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