87bluebird

would it crack if you used fiberglass fenders and a fiberglass bumper. that would be a lot lighter then steel and probably easier to work with. you could probably take some extra fiberglass mat and resin and make the fenders and bumper one smooth piece.

87bluebird

does anyone know what this body kit is called.

its on the polly motor sport trans am. i cant speak whatever languege there site is written in. any one out there able to tranlate

Stephen

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There is no "body kit" on the Poly TA.

Just ASCD Ram Air I hood, holes cut for increase air flow inside (turbo intercooler?) & an added on piece to the font nose to help split the wind on high speed runs.

anesthes

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Man to be 18 again.


The negative of the body kits is usually the unfortunate added weight. I know when I put GTA panels (ground fx, bmumpers, fenders) on my '89 formula 10 years ago it gained a LOT of weight.


Then again, the fat pig 2nd gen I have right now is probably 300lbs heavier than the fattest thirdgen, so who am I to talk.

-- Joe

87bluebird

as far as being 18 goes i wont be in a few days. but it was a fun age.

the weight of a body kit really shouldn't be that big of an issue. i would probably go all fiberglass so it shouldn't weigh that much more than it does now.the stock steel hood and fenders are a lot heavier than fiberglass ones. fiberglass body kit style bumper covers may add a bit of weight over the stock ones cuz there usually little bigger. so the over all weight of the car should stay close to stock.

87bluebird

Another option for a body kit is to make one. It doesn't sound like it would be too difficult to do. Just carve some foam to the desired shape and cover it with tinfoil then a lot of resin and some fiber glass mat then more resin and mat. Till you get it about a 1/4 inch thick. I’m sure it’s probably a lot harder than I made it sound but it would be fun to try and a lot cheaper than buying one of these other kits. I found two third gens that have had this done the first is made by tgo member diore from Finland there's a thread about it here.

she’s been designing a new front bumper


the other third gen I found with a custom body kit is a camaro at fiberglass forums there's 70 pages loaded with pics and info on how he built his rear bumper. but unless you sign up for that site that link probably won’t work for you so here's a few of the pics

this pic shows the foam he used to carve out the mold.


This second pic shows it with the first few layers of fiberglass.


The last pic is the bumper all finished and primed and that is a mustang roof and trunk I think 09. i preferred the notch back but it’s his car and he did do a good job blending the new roof to the car.

Awesome-X

Wow thats crazy I wish I could make panels like that. I don't really like the look of it but he did a really great job with it.

VSnakeByteV

The first body kit listed I think is sick looking!!! I want one real bad, I want that along with the "super duty" hood from hawks third gen parts, which looks like a 4th gen camaro ss hood but it'll work for the third gen firebird! I want that hood, the Extreme Dimensions body kit with black mesh, 3 piece rear window louvers painted to match the car, and a set of Z06 wheel that are black with a chrome lip, then all the lights blacked out and I will be done! I dont care if it looks like ***** trash, I like the body kits and all the fast and the furious stuff! It's my car and I will make it look like what I want, if you dont like it than be happy its not yours! P.S. I do intend on doing the twin turbo kit, and this body kit would be perfect! Look at the firebirds and TA's now there is no open cooling like there are on the camaros.

Oh and that german body kit is by far the best I have ever seen! WOW is all I have to say, well that and where the heck can I get one???

87bluebird

that german body kit is no longer made

Dante93GTZ

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Damnit; if you want a Mustang, but a Mustang, if you want a 240sx, buy a 240, its a Camaro, not a tuner.

Stephen

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Firebird fender vents on a Camaro fender.....I know some 2nd gen Camaros had some too, but front fender vents are still a Firebird thing to me.....

Twin_Turbo

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What German Company? Geiger Cars?

They did some crazy mods to vettes, f bodies and other cars.

K-slice

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Twin_Turbo

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I just read this now, yeah they're out of business. They got a real bad rep, guy (Juroslav Vondracek) hiding behind his bed ridden 90 something year old mom or grandma (not sure) Hermine Vondracek in his business schemes. Never used them but heard comments about the quality, they were not favorable.

I know most of you don't read German, maybe use the Google Translater...see what it does but here's some dirt on them and a reason why they are no longer in business

http://www.otpvondracek.de/

1 more pic of that car for those who do like it (not me)

87bluebird

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87bluebird

Dante and k-slice please reread the first post. thanx

stephen what are you talking about?

Stephen

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I'm talking about that is a Camaro in the pic. Look in the background. The front fender has a TA vent in it.

Dante93GTZ

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The rear tail light angles are a dead giveaway too.

87bluebird

look at post 56 i sayed it was a camaro. but i didn't notice the fender hanging on the wall. the guy has yet to mention anything about his plans for the front end. and i gave it no thought.
he has since changed the bumper so it no longer curves upward so much. and it looks alot better.

oscarsrs

This Guy is doing an amazing job with this car thinking out of the box, it looks very good.

Atilla the Fun

this totally does it for me. now i just need a '91-'92 nose

haroanarchist

bageco.com has any one got a body kit from here it sounds way to cheap

hsilived

I love this forum, and look at it almost everyday for one question I have or another.

I don't post pictures of my car on here, because most "Camaro" people are diehards and not very understanding of what I am doing (like calling my car a tuner...lol)

none the less...someone else has posted pictures of my car, so I will post some more recent photos of it mostly complete.

tkcaraudio

IM not a big fan on the body kits but I like the wide body on camaro kit (I think it would look bad *** on my vert)

The orange camaro is different but its nice.

I think you should do a build thread on it here

oscarsrs

I completely agree, regardless of what people may say you have tremendous fabricating skills and the car is looking amazing,
is not easy taking a 20 somthing year old car and making it fit in with current times, keep up the great work and am sure to follow your progress on the other forum if you decided not to open your own here, i can imagine after 80 something pages on the other site you probably wont have the time to post all the work here too. keep up the good work!

heather1226

This guy down the road has a f-body not sure the year with a ferrari body kit on it. I'll take a pic and post it asap.

GTA50

The above mods look great and I definitely take my hat off to those doing the fabricating. The key questions I would ask are, what do you want to accomplish and second, the body lines should be enhanced.

Even that German kit leaves a little to be desired with the back wheelwell. I'm pretty old-school, but the idea of customizing was top look stock at first glance then to shock and amaze at second and third. I find many modern body kits to be too much over the top - jmo.

BlackTopKing

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I just like to see talents and skills of others as well as the imagination...atleast they dare and try to stand alone! regaurdless if i actually like it or not.
not many 3rd gens get that treatment

Big Cleatus

I really like the front end of Harwood's ride on the first page of this. Is that grille functional? Does it obsolete the air dam? I need a front grille to cool my dang radiator off. A lot of people use the word "rice". It's not a body kit that makes a car look rice, it's a horrible paint job and dragon decals. But everyone knows dragon decals add 25hp at least.

VSnakeByteV

Wow the orange Camaro is awesome! I have a huge list of things I wanna do to my car, and will make it look very different and tuner like, but you know what, it's my car and I'm gonna make it look the way I like. If some one else complains or makes comments who cares its not theirs. If your happy and pleased with how the car looks and turns out then that's all that matters.

Twin_Turbo

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damn someone else w/ M6 wheels

Harwood

The front air dam just sits over top of the old bumper, not the plastic cover, but the actual steel part. So it isn't completely functional. If you were to take the steel portion off, it may be closer to functional, but I tour often with my 4 yr. old daughter, so safety was still a concern for myself and that little flimsy piece of fiberglass wouldn't serve well enough.

I imagine it does allow alot more air flow through than the original cover, but it may just be causing unnecessary drag. My 400 thats so well known for overheating never has, but there's alot of other factors in there, too.

anesthes

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That came out pretty good..

-- Joe

Mathius

That one isn't a kit. (or at least not a kit for a firebird. Might have been a kit for the other car, adapted ) That car was sold on Ebay something like 5-7 years ago or more. The guy adapted the front end from another car. I'm not real familiar with imports, but I think he said it was an M2? I remember e-mailing him about it at the time, but I'm not sure if I ever wrote it down anywhere.

Here's more pics.

Mathius

Mathius

Hsilived,

I'm a member of fiberglass forums and I've been following your build almost since day 1. I didn't care for it much when you put the mustang hatch on it... Not because I'm a purist, I just didn't care for the look when I saw the primer pics. But after you got it in paint it totally changed my mind and came out awesome looking. I just wish you'd have done something with the front end. The rear is now custom and curvy, but the front is still old school angular.

Mathius

anesthes

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When I saw the initial stuff, the only thing that came to my mind was 'trainwreck', but hey, you know what opinions are like. Besides, to each their own.

Anyhow, latest pics look nice. really nice. Clean. I like it. I might have spaced the tail lamps a little differently, but overall I think the lines look good.

-- Joe

RSFreak

Does anyone know if it would be possible to bond fiberglass to the stock (polyurathane?) nose piece? I searched the fiberglass forums site and found that this question had been asked, but no one answered.

87bluebird

yes but it will crack eventually due to the 2 materials having different expansion rates.

Mathius

No way that's going to last, but you could wrap the stock piece in foil and/or mold release, fiberglass over it and make your modifications from there.

Mathius

theimpaler68

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harwood- any opinions about your body kit and how easy are hard it would be to use the side marker? do you miss not having yours there? i am looking the kit like yours and just curious. it would be awhile before any type of purchases are made but just asking.

fastestbandit

Do you know any more about the predator kit. Is that a complete kit on the red car in your post?

DickJ

Red-Devil

Maker of the Kobel Ground Effects kits / Predator kit is out of business.

Maeryk

The purple one reminds me of what people used to do to vettes. (See, also "Corvette Summer"). I like the white/red nose, but think it SCREAMS for either autobot or decepticon badges. The flared wheel wells look okay.. but I shudder to think what series tires needs them.. even my 255/50's fit fine, and I could probably go wider and still not clear the well.

I think the difference, IMHO, between "rice" and "non rice" is the goofy chicken wire. Avoid that, (or at the very least, paint it) and you will lose a lot of that criticism.

Course, I think they look just fine the way they rolled off the line, for the most part, though I've never been a huge fan of the 91 noses. To me, they belong on a Superbird.

87bluebird

has anyone seen this front bumper spoiler thing before? its from some redmann or something i found the pic on earlythirdgen.com

PeterFeix

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omg, such a beautiful car but such an ugly front nose.

on the other side, it would be the ideal vehicle for him:

91phoenix

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I actually was thinking about doing that same thing. I can do the fiberglassing but need to get a spoiler to practice on before I make a mess of one that I would want to use. (Trial and error) I know the aftermarket ones are fiberglass so that would be the choice to do the finished work on.
What I had in mind was to square off the corners and straighten out the back edge some. Make the 4th gen spoiler blend in with the styling of a 3rd gen a little more. It would be a subtle change but I think well worth the time involved.
I have talked to body men here and friends and all agree it can be done and different ways to do it so that it lasts and looks original for the spoiler as well as right on the car.

I would love to have a wide body kit on my Firebird but haven't decided on how I would want it made and not sure if I could make one myself.

Stephen

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That is what I've always said about mine.....Needs the rear corners squared off.

I might be interested in donating mine (to be returned) for practice work. Mine is a LS1 wing, so it doesn't sit as flat as LT1 wings, so I wanna replace it anyways, unless the feet could be leveled out.

PM me if your interested in working something out, for a practice piece.

Dante93GTZ

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I will preface this comment by saying this is not an attack on you or your person...

...but you castrated your Camaro!! I can appreciate the level of work, but I guess I just don't get the overall theme with the huge *** blind spot that you've added.

hsilived

Aren't we being just a bit melodramatic?

After all, it's not like Invented the blindspot, or that this is the first Camaro with a blind spot





Good thing I didn't go with a Honda based theme versus the 70 camaro theme Otherwise you would have been really stumped.

Red-Devil

I am in need of the front bumper spoiler / air dam for my Firebird -91.
It is from this Kobel Predator Ground Effect Kit.
It is made by ABS plastics and comprising of three pieces.
If you have those pieces for sale I`m interested.
Anyone know who have those parts for sale?