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Old 02-03-2012 | 10:42 AM
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Neil i just sat here and read your all your post from the beginning you are a god you took the meaning of Frankenstein to a whole new meaning you car is the by far a master piece i have a 91 rs and have been wanting to redo my car from scratch i now have a base line to go by where to start thank you for posting you project it has really helped cant wait to see the final result
Old 02-03-2012 | 04:09 PM
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Neil...been a couple of months, any news for us?
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Re: Phase I done, Phase II-interior almost done, and now Phase III-drivetrain (454 LS

Originally Posted by Corey Farthing
Neil i just sat here and read your all your post from the beginning you are a god you took the meaning of Frankenstein to a whole new meaning you car is the by far a master piece i have a 91 rs and have been wanting to redo my car from scratch i now have a base line to go by where to start thank you for posting you project it has really helped cant wait to see the final result

.....i know such great ideas...truely bad as* car...it just sucks he cut it all up to start over...i can't wait for him to start up another build up.......how about it..whats up anything new...anyone hear anything...??
Old 02-04-2012 | 10:08 PM
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Just ran across this thread. Car looks awesome. Been a long time though? Bet you can't wait to get her on the road.
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really weird question (atleast i think) but the badges on the back bumper (shown in your sig) what year are they from and where can i get some, love the grey with the red bowtie
Old 03-02-2012 | 10:43 AM
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they were painted on i believe
Old 03-08-2012 | 01:29 PM
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is this the rebuild?
the 1st time didn't the car get cut up?
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If it were me I'd probably sit back and take a long break at this point. Thats a lot of work and heart and soul to pour into something you end up having to chop up.

He will be back eventually.
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you cant stay away from a thirdgen long
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Makes me sad to see this car got cut up, but I understand why. Cant wait to see v 2.0...
Old 03-11-2012 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 1986Z28OWNER
Makes me sad to see this car got cut up, but I understand why. Cant wait to see v 2.0...
well I don't.
why was it cut up?
we have seen cars with cancer to the door handles, get fixed, and better than new.
so one of two things is going on here, there was a problem with the title, (stolen) did not realize it tell he was done.
Or he just double posting trying to get the longest thread.

Maybe I'm missing something here?
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Originally Posted by FlyDoc
well I don't.
why was it cut up?
we have seen cars with cancer to the door handles, get fixed, and better than new.
so one of two things is going on here, there was a problem with the title, (stolen) did not realize it tell he was done.
Or he just double posting trying to get the longest thread.

Maybe I'm missing something here?
Read the thread... The car had accident damage that was fixed by the shop, They thought the repair would be suffice but it not, They could have attempted to repair it again but it could still be a safety issue and it made more sense to start with another shell.
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Re: Phase I done, Phase II-interior almost done, and now Phase III-drivetrain (454 LS

whats odd is why not just cut the whole subframe out and replace with a c5, c6, or viper components... wouldn't cost more than a whole new car. but hey whatever not my car or money!
Old 03-20-2012 | 11:35 PM
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well maybe the cars owner feels that if the car has a subframe from something else it wouldn't really be a camaro anymore, i could see that if you change every component on a car possible, its still that car as per the registration, if it was a franken car then it wouldn't be anyone thing and idk if ya could register it, but true he could do so many things with it if he had the time and money, when will he post again with progress? i wonder
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Neil told me that there were other issues besides hidden rust and weak/flexing body points that would have to be fixed. Basically it would be cheaper to mod a solid shell than to fix and re-mod the old body. Good call IMO.

But, on the bright side, most of the fab work and wiring etc.. is already completed and will be a direct bolt-on for the new shell. He's just going to have some more of his hours dumped into re-installation.
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pics of said damage or rust?
Old 03-22-2012 | 05:41 PM
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stage20 a few post back showed the car cut up into pieces and taken for scrap. Sad to see that happen. Awesome build Neil, keep up the good work. Keep us posted!!! Good luck
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stage20 a few post back showed the car cut up into pieces and taken for scrap. Sad to see that happen. Awesome build Neil, keep up the good work. Keep us posted!!! Good luck
saw all the pics of the car cut up but where and what was the damage? im just curious how bad it must have been to cut the body up.
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Niel, three years to get it running, was it worth the 30,000 you put into it?
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it wasnt so much a rust issue as far as i know, but more of a structural rigidity issue because of a bad repair job in the cars past, they were more worried more about twisting the subframe with all that motor, then rotting floors, ya know?

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Keep up the good work Neil, that car is going to be a monster when it's done. There are more important things in life than cars, so take your time man! You'll be a happy man in the end. Take care.
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Originally Posted by Dakota W.
Niel, three years to get it running, was it worth the 30,000 you put into it?
probably more into it than that.
Old 04-26-2012 | 11:44 AM
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Eagerly awaiting update, as are about 10,000 others. You will be a hero when you finish this thing!
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My dream build if I was rich
Old 05-14-2012 | 11:43 AM
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I am also eagerly waiting for any news about the Beast...come back Neil...PLEASE!
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I think its done I seen his car on youtube sort vid
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if you read the last few pages youd know its definitely not done
Old 05-14-2012 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by tylercamaro
if you read the last few pages youd know its definitely not done
Well its 42 pages long so I'm not going to read up I have my own IROC to work on
But this is the vid I did read he wanted to do corvette door poppers and this car has it with the intake TB oh its a LSX454 so... this vi is 2years old unless he copied some 1 else. Now I don't know what color his car is or year its a 87 in the vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPKt5...e_gdata_player
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And its got 4thgen guts so this is why I say its done its another vid or it running so... I think he is done
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Originally Posted by Sojer
And its got 4thgen guts so this is why I say its done its another vid or it running so... I think he is done
Far from done. The body got cut up into pieces & tossed to be replaced by another body.
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yeah they cut this sucker up. its starting all over so it wouldve been better to have read throught it all when i mentioned it
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So he was done ok.... still not reading over 2k of posts lol I read the first 200 and went to sleep. Its funny that this is like the build I want to do with the doors motor trans intake but with 3rd gen guts I don't like 4th gens guts. Thanks guys for letting me know I knew I was wrong. Everything I can think of doing to a 3rdgen has been done in some way, viper v10, envoy I6, d max, and so on I wanna see a awd not on a blazer body. Oh I have never seen a mid engine camaro v8 with the hatch glass showing the motor like a ferrari 360 spider
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Originally Posted by Sojer
.....mid engine camaro v8.....
That much has been done too.
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And now the rest of the story....
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Originally Posted by RoadTech Online
Im assuming the worst here so dont shoot me if Im wrong but....

Sorry to hear Neil but you can keep your chin high and wear the hat of pride knowing you built one of the BADDEST *** threads in third gen history. Lots of great insight, imagination, passion, and most of all, effort went into this thing. Sometimes they end up this way. Cant say I havent been there myself before as im sure a lot of others have too.

Failing aint the falling down, its the staying down. Theres a cold beer or 20 in my fridge for ya anytime your in my area.

Hope im wrong on that but if Im not? Just saying what I feel needs saying. Respect is lacking badly these days and I always give credit, where credit is due
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I about fainted when I saw this...I understand why, I just cannot believe it!
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why wont neil respond! =(
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hes probably frustrated and heart broken, i understand, relate his feelings and his situation to that of eric bana in "love the beast" he built his ultimate amazing car that he loved, and it met with a tragic end, hes sad, hes mad, hes confused, he doesn't know what to do now, hes lost his passion and desire to build it again or to fix it, it will take time but he will respond, he will come back, i do not believe hes forsaken the project, it will live again........................................................................... also if noones seen love the beast you can watch it here, and i recommend you do its a great flick, lets you see hes a real car guy and one of us (even though its a ford) you'll understand what neils going through when you see it

"love the beast"
http://www.hulu.com/watch/174633
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i get what hes going through. im cutting my baby apart too, and contemplating not rebuilding her but just getting a whole new car. i totally get it.
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why wont neil respond! =(
Originally Posted by tylercamaro
i get what hes going through. im cutting my baby apart too, and contemplating not rebuilding her but just getting a whole new car. i totally get it.
then you've answered your own question, hes just sick to his stomach about it right now, it'd be hard for him to come back and post
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Not sure if he is quite ready, but he has MANY parts for sale (minus motor/tranny). PM him if you want or need parts.
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so hes done done? =(
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Re: Phase I done, Phase II-interior almost done, and now Phase III-drivetrain (454 LS

No, no, no, NO!
I've just spent the past 3 days at work and home reading this entire thread and not to have a happy ending sucks. You could seriously make a movie of this thread. I didn't see the pics of the car cut up but it's just as well, I would have cried.
What would make the story better would be to come back with a vengeance, but don't sell the parts.
We can rebuild it. We have the technology to build it stronger, better, faster.
Old 10-17-2012 | 12:28 PM
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Re: Phase I done, Phase II-interior almost done, and now Phase III-drivetrain (454 LS

Neil...talk to me, just drop in and say "Hi" if nothing else. Seriously, I hope all is well.
Old 10-17-2012 | 02:05 PM
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Re: Phase I done, Phase II-interior almost done, and now Phase III-drivetrain (454 LS

Well guys I know Neil and he is busy man!! There many be a 2nd gen replacement in the works to replace this project... but then again, this is still rumored!
Old 10-17-2012 | 05:07 PM
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Re: Phase I done, Phase II-interior almost done, and now Phase III-drivetrain (454 LS

why a second gen, gotta complete the thirdgen, then he can do a 2nd
Old 10-19-2012 | 12:56 AM
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A mighty warrior has fallen. I pay homage to its memory.
Old 10-19-2012 | 05:52 AM
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Re: Phase I done, Phase II-interior almost done, and now Phase III-drivetrain (454 LS

Doesnt surprise me that he would move to a second gen. After something this heartbreaking.... its hard to do the exact same thing all over again. At least with a second gen he doesnt have that constant pang of heartbreak as he rebuilds it. A second gen is a clean sheet.

Unfortunately, Im pretty sure the thirdgen would outhandle it on a track, ESPECIALLY his thirdgen. Those first gens can be made to handle really well, but our cars stock can give heavily modded first/second gen cars a VERY hard time in the twisties.

Originally Posted by kmcn47
hes probably frustrated and heart broken, i understand, relate his feelings and his situation to that of eric bana in "love the beast" he built his ultimate amazing car that he loved, and it met with a tragic end, hes sad, hes mad, hes confused, he doesn't know what to do now, hes lost his passion and desire to build it again or to fix it, it will take time but he will respond, he will come back, i do not believe hes forsaken the project, it will live again........................................................................... also if noones seen love the beast you can watch it here, and i recommend you do its a great flick, lets you see hes a real car guy and one of us (even though its a ford) you'll understand what neils going through when you see it

"love the beast"
http://www.hulu.com/watch/174633

Its a movie every car guy should watch. Very cool.
Old 12-23-2012 | 10:49 PM
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Re: Phase I done, Phase II-interior almost done, and now Phase III-drivetrain (454 LS

just seen it, I want to make a movie too now.
Old 01-20-2013 | 12:20 PM
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Re: Phase I done, Phase II-interior almost done, and now Phase III-drivetrain (454 LS

Originally Posted by InfernalVortex
Doesnt surprise me that he would move to a second gen. After something this heartbreaking.... its hard to do the exact same thing all over again. At least with a second gen he doesnt have that constant pang of heartbreak as he rebuilds it. A second gen is a clean sheet.

Unfortunately, Im pretty sure the thirdgen would outhandle it on a track, ESPECIALLY his thirdgen. Those first gens can be made to handle really well, but our cars stock can give heavily modded first/second gen cars a VERY hard time in the twisties.




Its a movie every car guy should watch. Very cool.
Damn it I can't watch it... US only...


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