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Old 08-30-2007 | 03:06 PM
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Muahahah 1000 posts! All cause of me!
Old 08-30-2007 | 03:13 PM
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Muahahah 1000 posts! All cause of me!
Actually you were 1001
Old 08-30-2007 | 03:13 PM
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and i am sure atleast 1000 more to come...atleast I hope! Dont to post much but everyday i get into work and i sign out just to see what the latest is on Neil car...
Old 08-30-2007 | 03:31 PM
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I got his old C5 Z06 brakes. I feel involved now. haha.
Old 08-30-2007 | 06:28 PM
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been following for a while now, definitly a sweep car. Hell, it would have been sweet with just the body mods/paint and nothing else. I give you credit, I would love to do that to my Iroc some day, but I wouldnt have paitence for some of the stuff your doing, lol./


P.S. saw the pics of your trans, dont forget to add fluid
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Neil...sorry I missed the 1000!! I'll be 1006 or something like that!!
Old 08-31-2007 | 02:08 AM
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Yea and if I cut him off on parts, he'll never make 2000!

Just kidding Cletus....... I'll hook you up till you're finished.

And then after that, you can let me drive it for a couple of weeks!
Old 08-31-2007 | 05:00 AM
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OMFG! I just went thru the whole thing from 09/06 all the way till now and its 3:00 am. Great work on the car man keep going rims color of the body door poppers LSX Chichi's Christ alot of work done and more to go!
Old 09-03-2007 | 11:21 PM
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Does anyone know if the clear headlight covers are still produced for our cars? I believe GTS made them in clear and smoked lexan. Did anyone else make them? I might just go ahead and buy some lexan and try and make a set.
Old 09-03-2007 | 11:53 PM
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not made anymore, but cutting some 1/8" lexan wouldn't be too difficult on a band saw. Remember to keep the heat down and it should be fine.
Old 09-04-2007 | 07:27 AM
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I recently bought a pair of clear ones made by GTS. I bought them through year one.
Old 09-04-2007 | 07:33 AM
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Headlight covers? Why do you want those?
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I used to have smoked ones and they are only help on by these little brakets on the sides and they sucked. I got one stolen and I then threw the other away. They never sat quite right. Maybe some high end custom ones would though.
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Headlight covers? Why do you want those?
I spent a good chunk of $$$ on the headlights (Xenon-HID's) and I especially want to protect them while on the highway.
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Hmm. I can see that. There must be a better way though. Those covers tap a lot of dirt and dust. So you have to make sure they are easy to take off an on. Your best bet is to leave it and hope for the best, or maybe cover the lights themselves with some protevtive coating or something. The covers really are not fun. But I dunno, if you can find good ones that don't fasten down with double sided tape grooves, that hold the cover, then you should be in business. Good luck finding/making some.

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ps- Installed the brakes last weekend Neil. They are GREAT!!!! Thanks so much. I can't believe how much fast I can stop. And they look great.

One side question. Should the bleeders be on the bottom or the top? Thanks.

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I don't think the headlights are in much danger. If a rock big enough to damage them somehow gets thrown up, it'll probably damage your windshield or paint before it does anything to the headlights. The covers don't look good either. If you want to enjoy driving the car, you have to be willing to take the chance that something will happen to your car while you're out driving it.
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True, i would say just get that 3M clear stuff on the nose and call it a day. Maybe they can put some on your headlights. Not sure due to temps, but maybe. With will not met them get scratched and maybe even toughen up the glass since it will be all tied together and less prone to shattering.

But with all that said. How many people have ever herd of anyone's headlights being smashed in by a highway rock? With any car for that matter. Even fog lights that are mounted lower and are generally have lower quality everything in them seem to never get smashed in.

IMO you are A-OK just leaving them. (I think they look kinda strange too)
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One side question. Should the bleeders be on the bottom or the top? Thanks.

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The bleeders should be up that way air comes to the top and can be released
Old 09-04-2007 | 03:27 PM
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Neil, Are the still the standard size headlamps as i would fine on my stock camaro?
Old 09-04-2007 | 03:34 PM
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Yeah, I hear you guys but in my opinion there is more to gain by using headlight covers for highway use. Since I have a fiberglass hood, I think they would help improve aerodynamics over the hood instead of air pushing up under the hood (just above the healight pockets). I would want to have a way to remove them for shows and cruising around town...i'll see if I can figure something out.
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I work for a company that install the clear bras on cars...Have you heard of them? I bet i could make a pattern for the headlamps pretty easily if you would want a set...

I've been thinking about doing it for myself...Just havent had the modivation since i am probably going to be selling my car....
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I work for a company that install the clear bras on cars...Have you heard of them? I bet i could make a pattern for the headlamps pretty easily if you would want a set...

I've been thinking about doing it for myself...Just havent had the modivation since i am probably going to be selling my car....
Yes, loved the clear bra! I had it on my beemer when I had it and I think I might put it on the camaro as well. Though, I still will use the lexan to help with aerodynamics for air flowing over the hood rather than under the hood in the light pockets/buckets.

Do you use 3M or Xpel?
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Actually 3M and X-Pel are actually the same material....I actually use something called Ventureshield from the venturetape company....go to http://www.ventureshield.com/ if you want to read a little about the product... Then let me know and will get it done in the next week or so...Will have to do it when i get a minute here and there
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Wow, that stuff looks to be pretty amazing! I am definitely intersted, how much for the front end and nose of the hood. Do you also have thicker material for the parking lights? I also think i'll add some behind the rear wheels.
Old 09-05-2007 | 11:33 AM
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The issue we have is that venturetape makes all the patterns and they only do newer model cars so i dont have a pattern for our cars unfortunitly!! I have been trying to get them to do one...because 1 pattern will cover a good chunck of 10 years except a few exceptions....Give me a few days I will see what i can come up with.
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I meant to jump in on the tank discussion a while ago. I have had excellent results adding a sump to the stock tank and using the pump from an 87 F150 dual tanker. If you need more volume the areomotive unite is the way to fly. I have put together cars with the ford pump that ran 400+ at the wheels. If you need some tips on adding a sump just holler. I got some pics somewhere too.
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I meant to jump in on the tank discussion a while ago. I have had excellent results adding a sump to the stock tank and using the pump from an 87 F150 dual tanker. If you need more volume the areomotive unite is the way to fly. I have put together cars with the ford pump that ran 400+ at the wheels. If you need some tips on adding a sump just holler. I got some pics somewhere too.
How'd you weld the sump on, to a used tank? No BOOM from the fumes igniting?
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Not if done correctly.
1. of course the tank needs to be empty.
2. It helps if you can leave it sitting opened up for a while.
3. Flush with compressed air.
4. Fill with argon or nitrogen. I usually let the gas run high volume for a minute or so, then I leave it on a continuous regulated flow while I open up the tank for the sump.
5. Drill 1/2 inch hole with a sharp bit. This will be enough to get the tin snips in.
6. cut out the size of sump you plan on attaching.
7 once the hole is cut for the sump, you are pretty much home free. It would take a serious expansion of gas to blow up a tank with a 6" X 6" hole in it. If being on the extremely careful side let it sit for a couple days with a big hole in it.
8. weld the sump on and paint the welds or check the tak for leaks depending on your skill level of welding.

I have worked on numerous gas tanks. Mostly because of peoples fear of blowing up. It is a founded fear, but highly unlikely. If the tank and work area are well vented, smal amounts of gasoline does not have the expansion rate or volume to explode large areas. Think about what it takes to get it to explode in your cylinder correctly. If there is some left it may cause a flame, but those are easy to put out, no different than catching a bench or solvent on fire and having to pat it out with a glove or something.
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hey neil have you figured out the manual door release yet if your still going to do one ?........this goes like way back
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hey neil have you figured out the manual door release yet if your still going to do one ?........this goes like way back
No, I don't think I am going to do a manual door release. If the remote, door switch or the solenoid(s) fail, then i'll crawl through the rear hatch or i'll pay a kid a few bucks to crawl in and open my door for me, lol.
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Not if done correctly.
1. of course the tank needs to be empty.
2. It helps if you can leave it sitting opened up for a while.
3. Flush with compressed air.
4. Fill with argon or nitrogen. I usually let the gas run high volume for a minute or so, then I leave it on a continuous regulated flow while I open up the tank for the sump.
5. Drill 1/2 inch hole with a sharp bit. This will be enough to get the tin snips in.
6. cut out the size of sump you plan on attaching.
7 once the hole is cut for the sump, you are pretty much home free. It would take a serious expansion of gas to blow up a tank with a 6" X 6" hole in it. If being on the extremely careful side let it sit for a couple days with a big hole in it.
8. weld the sump on and paint the welds or check the tak for leaks depending on your skill level of welding.

I have worked on numerous gas tanks. Mostly because of peoples fear of blowing up. It is a founded fear, but highly unlikely. If the tank and work area are well vented, smal amounts of gasoline does not have the expansion rate or volume to explode large areas. Think about what it takes to get it to explode in your cylinder correctly. If there is some left it may cause a flame, but those are easy to put out, no different than catching a bench or solvent on fire and having to pat it out with a glove or something.

Wow, very cool! Well, I already ordered a tank from Nasty Performance and it should be on it's way as we speak. I'll post pics when I get it.

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Neil thats the same plan I have and I have handles. I just don't have locks. I am pretty skinny so last resort is climbing in the back and around the roll bars. haha. it will be like a jungle jim.

haven't had to yet.
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dennisbernal91z - how bad does your SPEC clutch chatter? Any complaints with it?
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dennisbernal91z - how bad does your SPEC clutch chatter? Any complaints with it?
Hey muthaf#@%* are you trying to hijack my thread? LOL, j/k.
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No real complaints with it at all. Went in east. Clutch feel is great. Very easy to use on a DD. And i can **** just as smooth as I can with my moms carolla wagon.

Now if I really really lay into it, like a full dump from 30 MPH in 2nd and 50 grand... she will chatter a bit and I have to let off so that it will bit, but once it does. BAM! I am outta there. and doesn't let for when I **** either. I mean that from 2nd to 3rd, full on blast the chatter is gone totally. So I dunno. I consider my car a street car, so For me it is great, I can give 95% of all my HP and it is 100% great. Once this one is dead, I don't think I am going to the dual disk Mcleod. Too much $ for not that much an improvement in performance.
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I'm not highjacking your thread, Cletus!!

As far as a clutch goes, I'm looking into a single disc Exedy clutch.
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What kind of tranny are you running? I can't find anything on their site that shows to fit the 93-97 T-56...
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It's special order... is what I was told from Exedy. LT-1 style T-56 clutches are not in their catalog.
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Oh well in that case, I kinda would stay away from them. I like parts that are being used by many, takes away surprises that have not been engineered out. But maybe thats just me since I am an engineer and think like that. Clutches can either be a great experience or horrible. I am most likely gonna get another Spec stage 3, I think now they have a 3+. I am getting my car back from the dyno today. If it rips the tires when I mash it, I will stick the 3, but if it slips with 400RWHP then I will go for the 3+.

Neil what are you gonna run? Mcleod twin disk?
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Re: Phase I complete, now Phase II IROC restoration - on to the interior!

Originally Posted by dennisbernal91z
Oh well in that case, I kinda would stay away from them. I like parts that are being used by many, takes away surprises that have not been engineered out. But maybe thats just me since I am an engineer and think like that. Clutches can either be a great experience or horrible. I am most likely gonna get another Spec stage 3, I think now they have a 3+. I am getting my car back from the dyno today. If it rips the tires when I mash it, I will stick the 3, but if it slips with 400RWHP then I will go for the 3+.

Neil what are you gonna run? Mcleod twin disk?
Yep, Mcleod twin disk.
Old 09-17-2007 | 07:05 AM
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Re: Phase I complete, now Phase II IROC restoration - on to the interior!

Right on. I can't wait to see how you like it. So in the future I can figure out if it is a good back up plan if my spec doesn't hold up.
Old 09-17-2007 | 03:22 PM
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I'm running a street twin. I have nothing bad to say about it. other than it's expensive.
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Re: Phase I complete, now Phase II IROC restoration - on to the interior!

It's been a while since i've posted pics, so here are a few of the progress I have made on the T-bar and the weather stripping-window channels. It took along time to get the original paint, old adheisve and rust off these pieces! What a pain in the a$$, so labor intensive but worth it. I didn't want to spend another $175 on a new T-bar that would end up rusting like the 2 previous ones I have purchased so I deceided to POR-15 my old one. It worked quite nicely and it is very strong, like powder coating! I prepared the metal same as before using the POR-Marine Clean, then the POR-Metal Ready which etches the metal with phosphoric acid and then coats the metal with zinc phosphate, which promotes adhesion with the POR-15 paint. The pic on the left was taken after the pieces were coated with Metal Ready and then the others with the POR-15 paint. The t-bar doesn't look perfect, especially in the weather stripping channel, but I am not worried about it since you won't see it. I never thought this stuff was that good, but I am amazed at how strong it is!
Attached Thumbnails Phase I done, Phase II-interior almost done, and now Phase III-drivetrain (454 LSX!)-t-bar-003.jpg   Phase I done, Phase II-interior almost done, and now Phase III-drivetrain (454 LSX!)-t-bar-001.jpg   Phase I done, Phase II-interior almost done, and now Phase III-drivetrain (454 LSX!)-t-bar-004.jpg  

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Old 09-17-2007 | 09:52 PM
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Re: Phase I complete, now Phase II IROC restoration - on to the interior!

some more...wherever the paint appears rough, especially on the ends is where alot of rust was and now it is strong and resistant to any further rust. Hopefully i'll never have to pull this off again and find out if the POR paint worked as well as they claim it does!
Attached Thumbnails Phase I done, Phase II-interior almost done, and now Phase III-drivetrain (454 LSX!)-t-bar-007.jpg   Phase I done, Phase II-interior almost done, and now Phase III-drivetrain (454 LSX!)-t-bar-006.jpg   Phase I done, Phase II-interior almost done, and now Phase III-drivetrain (454 LSX!)-t-bar-005.jpg  

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Re: Phase I complete, now Phase II IROC restoration - on to the interior!

A couple new components from BMR. A T-56 trans crossmember without the torque arm mount (I already have a stand alone torque arm mount...will take pics of it next time I am under the car, probably tomorrow). Also a new BMR upper panhard bar which has mounts to relocate it lower for added clearance for the exhaust (maybe i'll put true duals on it some day ).
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Re: Phase I complete, now Phase II IROC restoration - on to the interior!

What TQ arm setup are you going with?

I am getting a little tired of my Spohn one since my pipes have to go way under it. I will just end up notching it, but just curious to see what you are going with.
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Re: Phase I complete, now Phase II IROC restoration - on to the interior!

Originally Posted by Neil
(maybe i'll put true duals on it some day ).
Maybe Boom Tube tips, on both sides?
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Re: Phase I complete, now Phase II IROC restoration - on to the interior!

Originally Posted by Stephen
Maybe Boom Tube tips, on both sides?
I'll vote for that one
Old 09-18-2007 | 09:38 AM
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Re: Phase I complete, now Phase II IROC restoration - on to the interior!

Originally Posted by Stephen
Maybe Boom Tube tips, on both sides?
Ok, you got me, what are "Boom Tube Tips"?
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Re: Phase I complete, now Phase II IROC restoration - on to the interior!

Originally Posted by Neil
Ok, you got me, what are "Boom Tube Tips"?
http://www.drgas.com/store/home.php?cat=2

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Old 09-18-2007 | 11:06 AM
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Re: Phase I complete, now Phase II IROC restoration - on to the interior!

Ok...backing up to the headlight covers...

To quote my good friend Cameron Fry from Ferris Bueller's Day Off:

"It could get wrecked, stolen, scratched, breathed on wrong... a pigeon could sh*t on it! Who knows? "

Hey do you guys know where Neil can get a huge box made of Lexan with holes cut out for the wheels and exhaust? I mean what if a bug hits the windshield or some moron left his sprinklers on too long and made puddles in the street??!!

STOP BEING A CANDYA$$!!!! No show cars have headlight covers! (this is not a daliy driver...see page 1, post#1) The bikini clad girl in hooker heels will laugh at you before she sprawls over the hood if you put those on.

Question to all the readers...Have any of you EVER had a headlight broken by a rock or some type of road hazzard (excluding animals)?

Seriously though the neon lights for the bottom of the car are sweet! He got pink...


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