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Old 04-13-2006, 05:24 PM
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im lowering my car 2 inches, do i have to worry...

do i have to worry about rolling my quarters ? are the tires going to rub the lip in cornering ?

im running a 255/50/16 tire
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I'd be more concerned about bottoming out
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Those tires will be fine but i hope you don't have LT headers and not to mention that poor air-dam over bumps.
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I've got those tires on my stock IROC wheels and my car is very low. I have never had any tire rub. The stock rear wheels tuck in far enough that it won't be a problem.
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Hmmm! With my GTA wheels my Rr tires rubbed bad enough to cut into the very edge of the tread/sidewall.Thats with Goodyear Eagle Ultra HPs 255/50-16s.PLus my car is lowered about 7/8in front & about 1 1/4 in back.Eventually i did roll the lip on the quater panels though.Of course my air dam scrapes but not bad enough to do any serious damage to it,figures.

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I'd be concerned on the bottoming out as well. My 1992 RS seems to be lowered 1 1/2 inches, and it bottoms all the time - my cat rubs the driveway hump unless I go at a haarsh angle in/out - and my front plastic rubs too - not the dam, but the plastic bumper up front - I'd say don't lower so far!
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lol...just drop it. Once lowered you will rub on bumps once and a while but as long as your cautious its not that bad. And it will make your car look and handle much better.
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Mine is about 1 1/2 -1 3/4" low and the cats rub on speedbumps and the bottom of the front bumper cover is rubbed bad but i still wouldnt put it back to stock height looks and handling are definately better.
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Stock rims and offsets are fine, I'm down 2" and the only reason I rub the tires on bumps is because my struts are dead.
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Well I just lowered my car 1inch with Eibach Pro's, made the mistake of ordering 255/70/15's (29" diameter) Radial T/A's on an aftermarket 7 inch rim. They dont rub, but the inner fender lip made a few nice slices in the tire on hard turns so I'm going with 255/60's (27" diameter) Radial T/A's. Tires looked really good even before i lowered the car.Just barely clear everything but way too big. As far as lowering it 2 inches, ive already found the hard way certain roads i cant take and places i have to go 5 mph... It might be too much, might not. Only one way too find out. Im real happy with the stance/performance of the pro-kit personally. I know now from lowering it only 1 inch that i would never go another inch lower.
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Originally Posted by B Rhodes
the cats rub on speedbumps and the bottom of the front bumper cover is rubbed bad but i still wouldnt put it back to stock height looks and handling are definately better.

Please. Explain to me how having a scratched up, beat to hell front chin spoiler makes the car look better?

white91formula, you have obviously made up your mind that you want to lower the car. Thats all up to you, however, keep in mind ALL the roads you drive on, think about every single dip, speedbump, driveway, etc and think long and hard before going 2 inches.
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it doesnt look like the 91 nose would scrape at all, if not near as bad as a camaro nose...if the car is a daily driver maybe you should consider lowering it just an inch
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Originally Posted by rwdtech
it doesnt look like the 91 nose would scrape at all, if not near as bad as a camaro nose...if the car is a daily driver maybe you should consider lowering it just an inch

it is a daily, and the springs have alreaddy been ordrered.

im not afraid of driving it as low as it wil be. i bought the car to drive it, thats what they are for ... i just didnt know if i should expect to roll my lips so they dont cut into the tires
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Quick question for all you guys that have sportlines or lower. Will you smash up your front nose if you pull up to far in a parking space that has a parking block or a curb at the end of it?
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no...but i have a sport coupe front end
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I only did the 1 inch Eibachs and still have to keep my distance from parking curbs. It can even be a problem sometimes at stock height, nevermind any suspension change. Ive always been careful, you learn to watch your parking after you spend over 200 dollars on the front lip piece alone.
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Mine is lowered per se, but it's stil lower than the majorty... Be careful with entrances to parking lots. My front lip is peachy, it's the SFCs that I will once in a while feel scrape. Which I must say, is a horrid feeling, especially if you KNOW it's gonna happen, and there's no way around it. Now, I pretyt much know what's too tall, and have learned to just park on the street outside of peoples houses, and not in their driveways and such...

That's why I wouldn't ever drop mine any lower than it is.. From the bttom of the SFCs to convrete is around 3.5 inches
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Dont Do It !!!!!!!!

I will admit that the car looks & handles better, but what good is that if you cant drive it fast!
I bought mine with Eibachs lowered & da car looked awsome. But in NYC, I had to drive 3 mph or bottom out.
Forget the highway...
Went back 2 stock height and now hit 110+ on da L.I.E.!

Its not worth the drop!!

Do it right and get da AirRide Tech - Cool Ride Kit and get both styles at the touch of a button....

If your still determined, you can have my Eibachs Lowering Springs for $60 + s/h..
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What is the DEAL people? I dropped 2” on all four and have considered MORE...

Does the air dam scrape sometimes? OF COURSE, it did stock!

Does the lower lip (gfx) scrape? NO, I was careful stock, and more careful now.

Does anything exhaust related scrape? NO, it’s all tucked neat and tight like it ought to be.

With 91/92 16” rims I never had problems, and more recently with 18 x 9.5 rims (10.7” tire) on all four, I recall rubbing the front tires only when hitting a bad dip much too fast – once.

Go low...
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What is the DEAL people? I dropped 2” on all four and have considered MORE...

Does the air dam scrape sometimes? OF COURSE, it did stock!

Does the lower lip (gfx) scrape? NO, I was careful stock, and more careful now.

Does anything exhaust related scrape? NO, it’s all tucked neat and tight like it ought to be.

With 91/92 16” rims I never had problems, and more recently with 18 x 9.5 rims (10.7” tire) on all four, I recall rubbing the front tires only when hitting a bad dip much too fast – once.

Go low...
except I scrape exhaust on the speed bumps that I can't go around. No big deal though. Just becareful with the front and everything will be all good.
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Just becareful with the front and everything will be all good.
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mines lowered 2" with intrax. i love the stance the back sits up maybe a 1/2 higher than i want it but everything is good. my front tires scrub a little but they are 17"s but they are the same height as the stock 16"s. the air dam does scrub everywhere though. heres a pic.

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One more question. Are you guys still able to get a hydraulic jack under the car somehow? Do you drive it onto blocks of wood first? What do you use? Thanks, Josh.

Oh, by the way maroon88iroc, the car looks great.
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One more question. Are you guys still able to get a hydraulic jack under the car somehow? Do you drive it onto blocks of wood first? What do you use? Thanks, Josh.

Oh, by the way maroon88iroc, the car looks great.
i have to drive up on some wood... i hit the gfx once so i was pretty pissed about that you need to be carefull about that b/c it is noticeable now...
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Originally Posted by camaroguy21
One more question. Are you guys still able to get a hydraulic jack under the car somehow? Do you drive it onto blocks of wood first? What do you use? Thanks, Josh.

Oh, by the way maroon88iroc, the car looks great.
i have to drive the thing on boards to jack up the front even with stock springs! then i have to take off the air damn so its not in the way of the jack handle when i lift it up...its a major pain in the a**, i hate having to do that every time i want to get under the car
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i got a formula guys, no gfx here, ill be fine
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Originally Posted by white91formula
i got a formula guys, no gfx here, ill be fine
thats awesome, but you DO have an air dam...

where can i find pics of your car? i love 91+ formulas
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I dropped my formula 2 inches, formula bumpers are fine, I've never scraped the bumper on anything. I had 255's on the back and didn't have any problems, but I only had 245's on the front. Even the air damn/ splash guard can take a suprising amount of abuse, but the downfall is that the underneath of the car drags on everything. My cat looked like someone hit it with a baseball bat. So I'm raising mine back up and going with bigger wheels and tires and some sweet LT's w/ an X-pipe
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If I had it to do all over again, I would have left mine alone. Does it look better low? YES Is it more fun to drive? No If anyone rides in the back it's terrible!! I trimmed all the bumpstops down, but the rear still bottoms out easily. It stays bottomed out if someone rides in the back. If anything, it made the car dangerous to drive at high speeds. If I were to hit a small dip in the road at 90 or so, the car could easily spin out of control. So now I have a mean looking car that has to creep around everywhere. It's getting old fast!!!
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Originally Posted by rwdtech
i have to drive the thing on boards to jack up the front even with stock springs! then i have to take off the air damn so its not in the way of the jack handle when i lift it up...its a major pain in the a**, i hate having to do that every time i want to get under the car
i doubt you really have to do that. With a jack going straight at these cars front does not work, i always have to turn the wheel all the way right or left then just get the jack under the crossmember. With the pro-kit now i have to have someone lift up on the fender or front for me to push the jack under the k-member. Its a pain for ya gotta do what you gotta do.

Also get a jack that is bigger then the tiny 2 ton ones with a longer handle somewere other then autozone.
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From a tech standpoint, one thing you should consider is the changes in suspension geometry when lowering 2 inches+. Depending on what you use the car for, this could be a problem. A search will probably give you a good ammount of information on what you can do to bring the geometry back to the correct angles and stuff. Other than that, as long as the spring rates are reasonable (not too soft) and the struts/shocks are good you should be OK with that tire setup. I know when I put 245/50/16 IROC's on my Z28 thats dropped 2+ there's a good ammount of clearance, I imagine 255's would work as well, maybe a little rub against the frame at full lock (but would probably rub little bit with 255's even at stock height).
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i doubt you really have to do that. With a jack going straight at these cars front does not work, i always have to turn the wheel all the way right or left then just get the jack under the crossmember. With the pro-kit now i have to have someone lift up on the fender or front for me to push the jack under the k-member. Its a pain for ya gotta do what you gotta do.

Also get a jack that is bigger then the tiny 2 ton ones with a longer handle somewere other then autozone.
yea i have to drive it up on boards, theres no way around it even if i turn the wheels and go at it from another angle. and i do have a 3 ton floor jack with a 4 foot handle. the car is just a pain to lift from the front
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Originally Posted by white91formula
do i have to worry about rolling my quarters ? are the tires going to rub the lip in cornering ?

im running a 255/50/16 tire
lol too much to read.... i have Eibach sportlines that drop it 2" in the front and 1.5 in the rear i think... i can look if you want...


i also have stock replacement struts and shocks... brand new. i never bottom out anywhere reasonable and i can drive like a maniac... not even the front air lip.... the only thing is if you park too close to curbs you will fold over your front lip... kinda a lol but not so funny after the 2nd time
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If I had it to do all over again, I would have left mine alone. Does it look better low? YES Is it more fun to drive? No If anyone rides in the back it's terrible!! I trimmed all the bumpstops down, but the rear still bottoms out easily. It stays bottomed out if someone rides in the back. If anything, it made the car dangerous to drive at high speeds. If I were to hit a small dip in the road at 90 or so, the car could easily spin out of control. So now I have a mean looking car that has to creep around everywhere. It's getting old fast!!!
i dont know what you did but all i used were my Eibachs and some stock replacement struts and shocks and i've had 4ppl in the back(it is possible) and havent had any problems... as far as spinning out.... that seems like driver error no offense but ive had my car up past 130 without hide nor hair of any squirm... now slowing down with stock brakes... not as easy but still fun. lol
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yea i have to drive it up on boards, theres no way around it even if i turn the wheels and go at it from another angle. and i do have a 3 ton floor jack with a 4 foot handle. the car is just a pain to lift from the front
I can get my jack under the front no problemo.... i dont know what kinda jack it is tho and i dont have much room.... the airdam makes it hard...

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I'd be more concerned about bottoming out
my car sits real low to the ground and i bottom out all the time it sucks
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i have the eibach sportlines 1.6/1.3" and i dont rub with a 245/40/17 tire or bottom out.
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i dont know what you did but all i used were my Eibachs and some stock replacement struts and shocks and i've had 4ppl in the back(it is possible) and havent had any problems... as far as spinning out.... that seems like driver error no offense but ive had my car up past 130 without hide nor hair of any squirm... now slowing down with stock brakes... not as easy but still fun. lol!
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These are dropzones, not Eibachs. About the driver error crap...I said mine would easily bottom out hitting a dip in the road at 90. I think everyone here would agree that suspension bottoming out at those speeds is dangerous. You said yours doesn't bottom out with 4ppl in the back, so why would you have a problem keeping it on the road past 130? Sounds like you have a great suspension and you're a great driver too. Keep up the good work!

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These are dropzones, not Eibachs. About the driver error crap...I said mine would easily bottom out hitting a dip in the road at 90. I think everyone here would agree that suspension bottoming out at those speeds is dangerous. You said yours doesn't bottom out with 4ppl in the back, so why would you have a problem keeping it on the road past 130? Sounds like you have a great suspension and you're a great driver too. Keep up the good work!
separate instances really... 4ppl in the back i never would go past 70 or 80... but as far as topping it out me and one person uh performing an "Accelaration Test" against a GTI VR6 i had it past 130 and the only thing scary about that was slowing down on stock brakes.... mmm the smell of brakes
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08-09-2015 08:13 PM



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