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Old 12-20-2005 | 03:05 AM
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4th gen interior in a bird

I got the front seats mounted in the front but im sure everyone is aware about the backseat not being able to mount. Has anyone made a bracket or know how i can install the back seat???
Old 12-20-2005 | 06:36 AM
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I am confused. I was not aware that the back seats don't mount.
Old 12-20-2005 | 10:32 AM
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Yeah, I thought the rears went in with no problems, too, at least that is the impression I had from reading posts around here. I'll be curious to see where this goes...
Old 12-20-2005 | 11:58 AM
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They fit perfectly, don't be retarded.
Old 12-20-2005 | 12:50 PM
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the back seat from the 4th gen is alot more narrow than the stock 3rd gen. Unless someone knows something i dont then please show me the steps to help me out
Old 12-20-2005 | 04:10 PM
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Originally posted by Pearl91GTA
the back seat from the 4th gen is alot more narrow than the stock 3rd gen. Unless someone knows something i dont then please show me the steps to help me out
it is a direct bolt in.... just bolt the new seats in the back, they go right in
Old 12-20-2005 | 05:06 PM
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Maybe if you could post some pics, it would help, because you are saying they are too narrow, and others are saying they are a bolt in. Either you have the wrong seat, or...?
Old 12-20-2005 | 08:19 PM
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I have heard after some research that the rear seats are slighly smaller, barely noticable. They do bolt in with out a problem from what I hear. I think I read they are in about an inch on each side.
Old 12-20-2005 | 10:42 PM
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ok well i payed a little more attention to the back seat tonight. I got both bolt on the bottom in the holes. But now the hinges at the top wont latch.
Old 12-21-2005 | 09:10 PM
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the 3rd gen "posts" that the back seat hooks onto does allow for some adjustment. I haven't installed 4th gen seats yet, but I have swapped interiors before and if you lossen the post a little you can reposition it slightly and tighten it back down. maybe that will help you align it with your new seat back.
Old 12-21-2005 | 09:55 PM
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I've bolted in 2 sets of 4th gen seats in my car and neither required any modifications to fit. Did you have split seats before, and maybe the new seat is hitting the middle studs?
Old 12-22-2005 | 01:09 AM
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Originally posted by DJCobol
I've bolted in 2 sets of 4th gen seats in my car and neither required any modifications to fit. Did you have split seats before, and maybe the new seat is hitting the middle studs?
I'll try it again. Yes i did have the stock split seats in the rear.
Old 12-22-2005 | 10:28 AM
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some people say you have to cut the metal piece in the middle if you had a split rear seat. others say it won't interfere. I had no problem going from split rears to a solid 3rd gen rear seat in my 84 T/A.
Old 12-28-2005 | 03:02 AM
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split meaning there is two seperate bucket seats in the back right? i thought this was normal for all 3rd gens...?
Old 12-28-2005 | 12:14 PM
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split meaning there is two seperate bucket seats in the back right? i thought this was normal for all 3rd gens...?
No, it was a 60/40 split bench back in the thirdgens. And no, it wasn't the standard either.
Old 12-28-2005 | 10:20 PM
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Originally posted by DJCobol
No, it was a 60/40 split bench back in the thirdgens. And no, it wasn't the standard either.

The 60/40 split bench back was not standard, but the two rear seats/seat wells are in all 3rd Gens

just thought I'd clarify a little
Old 12-28-2005 | 11:30 PM
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I may be stupid (which is questionable at times) but, I could swear the original spilt back that was in my 'bird was spilt in the center (thus the mount centered on the rear driveshaft tunnel). Which, by my old math calculations, would equate to a 50/50 spilt seat due to it being in the center, no ?
Or, was there more than one style split rear seatback ?
I also thought the split seatbackwas part of the 'deluxe' interior upgrade as well but, I'm not a historian about things like that. Probably wrong about that too though.

As far as fit... didn't have a problem in either of my cars...

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Old 12-29-2005 | 12:57 PM
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I didn't have the split rears, but the 4th gen bird seat was a direct bolt-in. However, the 4th gen seat backs are slightly lower than the 3rd gens. It probably isn't really noticable in a coupe - but it was in the 'vert as there now is a bigger opening between the tonneu cover and the seat back than it was with the stock seats.

I guess maybe a couple of pics speaks more than ......

3rd gen rears:



4th gen rears:




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Old 12-29-2005 | 04:28 PM
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I had split seats in my 86 and the bar didn't interfere, you hardly notice it in this pic,
Old 12-29-2005 | 04:57 PM
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im confused
Old 12-29-2005 | 05:50 PM
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Originally posted by Zion
im confused
I'm deadbird

j/k

split... as in the upright of the backseat is in two seperate folding pieces (like newer cars have to access the trunk from inside).

A visual.. (image swiped from Hawks)...
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Old 12-29-2005 | 06:27 PM
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oh... mine has that thing going across between them. the whole back folds down.

what do fourth gens have again?
Old 12-29-2005 | 10:35 PM
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Originally posted by Zion
oh... mine has that thing going across between them. the whole back folds down.

what do fourth gens have again?
Any 4thgen seatback is soild like the majority of 3rdgens, as far as I have seen.

Years prior to the rear seatbelts though (just assuming here), the one piece soild back only had one catch hook. My 84 SC only had one catch at least. My 91 has rear shoulder belts and had catches on both sides, like the 4th gen.
My bird had them on both sides as well due to it having the split folding seatbacks.
Old 12-30-2005 | 12:42 AM
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My Camaro is by no stretch of the imagination a 60/40 split...

It is 50/50, right down the middle.

I didn't know that all 4thGen seats were solid backed. That's discouraging to me... I planned on swapping to 4thGen seats, but I really like the 50/50 split seats I have.
Old 12-30-2005 | 04:15 AM
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Originally posted by Dizturbed One
My Camaro is by no stretch of the imagination a 60/40 split...

It is 50/50, right down the middle.

I didn't know that all 4thGen seats were solid backed. That's discouraging to me... I planned on swapping to 4thGen seats, but I really like the 50/50 split seats I have.
just have the seat backs recovered to match the 4th gen seats.
Old 12-30-2005 | 05:59 PM
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so no matter whaet you have, any fourth gen seats will work. yes?
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