How to patch big wholes
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How to patch big wholes
Hey guys i have a big problem, I have several large wholes on my car due to rust and former owners with no love for there iroc. Theyse wholes range from 6 inches to 1 foot. Any ideas? Bondo will not do it.
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well fenders, replace them doors as well, floors and quter pannels are gona cause you alot more work, pictures would help alot.
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looks like the inside of the rocker and i dont think they make skins for that part but you will just have to cut it out and make a patch.
i know year one sells skins for the rear 1/4. and doors and fenders are everywhere.
i know year one sells skins for the rear 1/4. and doors and fenders are everywhere.
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im not having trouble with my fenders or doors. Those wholes are from behind the rocker panels. And why the heck am i having so much trouble finding replacement bolts and washers for my car. No hardware store around has anything like them. Im only able to find really high priced auto parts stores that have them.
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Holes isn't spelled wholes.
These isn't spelled theyse.
As for your 'wholes,' you might try welding panels in your floorpan to fix the wholes there.
Junkyards would have theyse bolts that you're talking about. You can't get all the parts you need shipped to you or in a store, sometimes you have to do a little work.
Good luck.
These isn't spelled theyse.
As for your 'wholes,' you might try welding panels in your floorpan to fix the wholes there.
Junkyards would have theyse bolts that you're talking about. You can't get all the parts you need shipped to you or in a store, sometimes you have to do a little work.
Good luck.
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hey astoria18 you might try reading the rest of the posts before replying. I dont have any holes in my floor panels. Those holes are right behind my rocker panels. And why the heck would i want to get bolts from junk yards? Im trying to add bolts that arnt rusted and crappy so why would i go to a junk yard?
What im considering doing with the bigger holes is welding on a piece of medaland sand/grind it down to match like the original.
What im considering doing with the bigger holes is welding on a piece of medaland sand/grind it down to match like the original.
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only thing i can think is to replace the whole panel, or if thats not gonna work, cut the section completely out and weld in a new sheet of metal.
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yeah man thats what i was thinking too. Just lop it off and weld on a new sheet. the only problem would be getting the new sheet to line exactly up like the old one and to get the rear 1/4 panel ground effect to line exactly up with the back bumper.
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Cut out the rotted sections in the easiest shapes possible. It will make fitting the patch much easier. Do yourself a favor and pick up some good tin snips, and a good file set.
For the body panels, cut the patch panel slightly larger than required, and then slowly file it down to fit. Then just weld it in place. If you can't weld, take it to a shop to have it welded in. If you do all the prep work, costs will be way down. Then hammer down any high spots, trying to get it as smooth as possible. Chances are that you will need some filler no matter what, but keep it as thin as possible. You should only be lightly skimming it on the surface.
The floor pan will be much easier, as it will not have to be perfect. Just cut out the rot, weld in new patches, and prep it on both sides. I wouldn't use undercoating because of it's tendancies to trap moisture. I use Eastwood's rust encapsulator paint, and it has worked great for me so far.
As for the hardware you need, you will likely have to go to a bodyshop or a dealer for it. Parts stores like to charge $4 for a couple of them, and in any kind of quantity is $$$.
For the body panels, cut the patch panel slightly larger than required, and then slowly file it down to fit. Then just weld it in place. If you can't weld, take it to a shop to have it welded in. If you do all the prep work, costs will be way down. Then hammer down any high spots, trying to get it as smooth as possible. Chances are that you will need some filler no matter what, but keep it as thin as possible. You should only be lightly skimming it on the surface.
The floor pan will be much easier, as it will not have to be perfect. Just cut out the rot, weld in new patches, and prep it on both sides. I wouldn't use undercoating because of it's tendancies to trap moisture. I use Eastwood's rust encapsulator paint, and it has worked great for me so far.
As for the hardware you need, you will likely have to go to a bodyshop or a dealer for it. Parts stores like to charge $4 for a couple of them, and in any kind of quantity is $$$.
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I posted this a looooooooonnnnnnnnngggggggg while back. Keep it in your favorites...VERY HELPFUL.
http://www.thefastenerwarehouse.com/...age/584919.htm
As for the rot..take everyone's advice, cut patches to fit, use a weld thru primer to protect, do your bodywork over the welds(definitely use duraglass first, as it has better holdout properties)
Try to have access holes for later to use an undercoat wand and spray a creeping wax in there.
I understand frustrations on spelling astoria, but come on, maybe the guy just had fat fingers
http://www.thefastenerwarehouse.com/...age/584919.htm
As for the rot..take everyone's advice, cut patches to fit, use a weld thru primer to protect, do your bodywork over the welds(definitely use duraglass first, as it has better holdout properties)
Try to have access holes for later to use an undercoat wand and spray a creeping wax in there.
I understand frustrations on spelling astoria, but come on, maybe the guy just had fat fingers
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Originally posted by astoria18
Holes isn't spelled wholes.
These isn't spelled theyse.
As for your 'wholes,' you might try welding panels in your floorpan to fix the wholes there.
Junkyards would have theyse bolts that you're talking about. You can't get all the parts you need shipped to you or in a store, sometimes you have to do a little work.
Good luck.
Holes isn't spelled wholes.
These isn't spelled theyse.
As for your 'wholes,' you might try welding panels in your floorpan to fix the wholes there.
Junkyards would have theyse bolts that you're talking about. You can't get all the parts you need shipped to you or in a store, sometimes you have to do a little work.
Good luck.
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sell it to a junkyard and get a new car- you're going to spend FAR MORE TIME AND MONEY fixing it than you'd want to.
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Originally posted by Token
sell it to a junkyard and get a new car- you're going to spend FAR MORE TIME AND MONEY fixing it than you'd want to.
sell it to a junkyard and get a new car- you're going to spend FAR MORE TIME AND MONEY fixing it than you'd want to.
Yeah i thought about that, but i would have to weld on new sheets of metal for me to be able to re-attach the 1/4 panels. I had to hack off the front fenders cause the bolts were so badly rusted on, but i do have new ones of those. I have all new 91-92 ground effects including the front lip piece and back bumper and also my BB hood. I think i might sell it when its done and buy a better haped iroc or a 91-92 z28
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I've been able to find most bolts I needed at a hardware store, just have to keep in mind most of them (but not all!) are METRIC....
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