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Old 12-02-2004 | 08:21 PM
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Totalled rear on vicious :( pictures inside

Was on lunch break at work and we only get 1/2 hr so i get in my car and start driving.. noticing at the turn that my supervisor is behind me.... i decided to show off... i floor it wide open around the corner with a massive fish tail.... my car slid out of control right into a set of telephone pole steel cables and i was hung up in the air about 3 feet on the cables... my supervisor ran up to the car to see if i was ok,,, i told him i was fine although in truth my back is damaged and so is my left leg... im stuck with a cramp in my leg that wont go away and a lower back pain... some guys on a sports bike pull up and saw if i was alright and he tried to help me push my car off the cables... the cable was behind my wheel well and my wheel.. we couldnt move it... so more and more people stopped to help and we finally got it to fall to the ground... the guy on the bike told me that he had a friend that does autobody repair for resonable prices... and pointed at his bike and told me he had the guy paint it and fix it when he crashed it... he told me its just body damage and i should be alright as far as that goes... everyone wastelling me i needed toget unstuck and haul ***.... the cops would write me a ticket and make me fix the lines... got away free there...
how bad does the damage look to u pros i know i need new quarter panel and bumper.. i hope there is not frame ndamage causes that would cost ALOT to get fixed... i refuse to total it. stills drives straight and my doors open and close alright so .... dunno...

here are some pics as i promised
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Old 12-02-2004 | 08:21 PM
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Old 12-02-2004 | 08:22 PM
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Old 12-02-2004 | 08:24 PM
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in the pictures i took u cant really ttell but the right side is bent up thats why my hatch doesnt close ... the whole back right is bent up. any estimates on what u see on how much to get it repaired is gunna cost?

someone give me some hope i feel like ive lost everything
Old 12-02-2004 | 08:41 PM
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I'm no pro, but it looks bad. Being that the body and frame are integrated, it seems entirely possible that pushing up the rear quarter like that could have bent the rear subframe. It's a shame either way, because your car looks pretty sweet. I'd say get it to a professional shop that can put it on a frame rack and tell you for sure if it's tweeked or not. Anything said on here from looking at pictures will be guesses.
Old 12-02-2004 | 08:51 PM
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ouch man that sucks

well its kinda hard to tell if u could get some pics in sunlight it would help i can tell on the right but it looks like a lil paint n bump on the quater n a new bumper ull be good there need daytime pics of the right tho
Old 12-02-2004 | 09:43 PM
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I agree that it looks pretty bad. From the pic I would say it looks like it's tweeked up 4-6 inches on that right side. It will be really hard to get it square again. Infact, I doubt you'll ever get your rear hatch to seal properly again. BUT, I've seen alot worse come out decent. Just depends on how much $ your willing to throw at it, my sister rolled her 4th gen about 4 times and $1600 later it looked like new, it blew my mind. Sorry about your loss bro, hope it's not as bad as it looks in the pics. Keep us posted on what you find out.

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Old 12-02-2004 | 10:58 PM
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That is not bad at all. All you did was rip the bumper cover and slighly wrinkle the quarter. Dont junk it. Save your money this winter and collect parts from the junkyard. You could even get that area of metal cut from a donar car. It doesn't look like any frame damage from where I sit.
Old 12-02-2004 | 11:33 PM
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Theres only one real way to truely check to see if you have tweaked the frame. You'll have to take it to a shop and have them test to see for sure. Shouldn't cost much for them to just do that, some shops may even offer to test that for free.

You may have gotten lucky and just lifted the right rear quarterpanel up a few inches and thats why your hatch isnt closing properly. But then again the rear end could be twisted from the hit.
Old 12-02-2004 | 11:33 PM
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Originally posted by KEVIN L.
That is not bad at all. All you did was rip the bumper cover and slighly wrinkle the quarter
Are you looking at the same pics as I am??? The hatch sits flush on the right side and on the left it is elevated atleast 5 inches. The whole rear end is tweaked. (I'm not saying the frame is bent, but the shell of the car is not square anymore) I'm suprised you would call that a slight wrinkle.. LOL.. But I agree, I wouldn't junk it either.

And by the way Incoming, you haven't lost everything. Just set yourself back a notch. I'm sure it's fixable.

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Old 12-03-2004 | 11:48 AM
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alright i talked to my bodyrepair buddy and he said he could have it back to new for 2,000.. that includes having the frame set straight and all the body work and fresh paint... i figure i might as well do my color change while there at it... probably run me a total of $3,000 a price im willing to pay to save my baby
Old 12-03-2004 | 12:44 PM
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i mean this in a serious and not a mean/insulting way at all..

it would probly be a good idea for you to take a performance driving class of some sort so that when you do break traction, you know how to correct out of it.


basicly, anyone who fishtails, could use some help... you're overcorrecting..... only exception to that would be on snow/ice where the friction coefficent changes frequently and is very low.... that and sportbike tank slappers.. lol.
Old 12-03-2004 | 12:45 PM
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HOLY CRAP, I hope you learned your lesson. I totalled my first car trying to show off.
Old 12-03-2004 | 12:50 PM
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Old 12-03-2004 | 12:53 PM
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Put the car on a frame straightener to get it untweaked. It may take a few days, but it will get the body in the shape it's supposed to be, albeit weaker than it was before you ended up on the cable. You will likely need some frame reinforcement after getting it straightened, and parts may break while being straightened, so prepare for some part replacement. Subframe connectors and/or a cage will do wonders after straightening...

...Wait a minute, where did you come from Mark?? I haven't seen you on here in a while
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well when you play ur gunna pay..lol..gotta make sure u have more space next time..



on second thought it could be worse....but still fixable

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Old 12-03-2004 | 01:31 PM
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Well aat least you were not going that fast. I started fishtailing about 110 in my mustang cause i had to change lanes rather quickly(don't ask) and was not used to the car yet. Yup it got real messy after that it swung back to the left and hit a car going the other way. What a ride. I am glad no one got hurt was a very stupid moment in my life. Oh and boys and girls that is why you should not street race.Pic here
Old 12-03-2004 | 01:35 PM
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Old 12-03-2004 | 01:37 PM
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Old 12-03-2004 | 01:42 PM
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HOLY CRAP! Ziggster you did a number on that Stang! Looks like the whole rear end got knocked off. Your lucky to be alive, 2 feet closer to the front and I don't think you would have made it. Incoming, those pics should make you realize how easy you got it. Could be alot worse.
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Old 12-03-2004 | 01:50 PM
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yeh i agree when u play you pay , i also totaled my first car playing, thank *** it was a honda at the time and not my bird
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Old 12-03-2004 | 05:50 PM
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HOLY CRAP! Ziggster you did a number on that Stang! Looks like the whole rear end got knocked off. Your lucky to be alive, 2 feet closer to the front and I don't think you would have made it. Incoming, those pics should make you realize how easy you got it. Could be alot worse.
Yup very lucky indeed all i got was 2 very bad bruises(spell) on my legs where the steering wheel got me. Kinda scared me cause my equipment almost hit the wheel too, that would have hurt.
Old 12-03-2004 | 06:17 PM
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Originally posted by Mark A Shields
BTW- do you have a brother named Shane

thats a good one.
Old 12-03-2004 | 06:50 PM
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iunno guys...
Old 12-03-2004 | 08:35 PM
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my suggestion is that you learn to control your vehicle before you pull stunts like that....i would say if the frame is bent not worth it...your whole handling/alinment will change forever
Old 12-03-2004 | 09:24 PM
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my suggestion is that you learn to control your vehicle before you pull stunts like that
and what? u never made a mistake in your life? please save the preaching for church.. LOL
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Check your PM I got an idea how you can get that fixed for free
Old 12-04-2004 | 05:33 PM
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Check your PM I got an idea how you can get that fixed for free
LOL, sounds pretty shady there. Be sure to delete the PM afterwards to destroy all evidence of its existance
Old 12-04-2004 | 06:04 PM
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Ouch, that gouge is pretty fierce. It's definitely a major setback, but all things considered you're quite lucky. It could've been a lot worse. That may seem a bit trite, but the point is that the damage doesn't appear disastrous - especially if you're adept at bodywork.

That's a really sweet car, and if I were the owner I'd do everything possible to repair it completely. You don't want to find yourself fifty years from now, swaying in a rocking chair in a nursing home outside of Virginia, moaning about the "one that got away" to all your elderly friends already knocked out by the nighttime meds.

Keep us updated on any progress - and I'm sure everyone here will be glad to help with any repair questions. Good luck man!
Old 12-04-2004 | 06:38 PM
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Cant really picture the steel poles, tho your car slit onto the poles, the cable just seems to have gone right between the bumper cover and rear quarter.

Obviously, the quarter was lifted since it had quite a bit of weight on it, I dont see why the frame would be affected..

But you replies that the bodyman said it has to be straightened .

Too bad, its a lot of dough for a mistake instead of a mod, all tho,

the lesson is learned..

Good luck with the rebuild.



ps. I lost my first 3rd gen, a 87 Iroc G92 the same way Ziggster did, I played, I payed .. too bad I lost
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On second thought, just find another f-body with a good subframe and start swapping parts.
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On second thought, just find another f-body with a good subframe and start swapping parts.



I totalled my 85 z28 as a result of playing around and didn't even get a chance to post pix up here in the 8 months I owned her, so im chalking up the 3000 dollar loss and now I picked up an 85 iroc with some rust damage for 600 and im starting to swap parts. Everything would be great if I was just working but unfortunely I'm just another poor freshman architect college kid.

/and the 85 came from family so I understand sedimental value, but the I'd rather pay 2000 to build a 383 then straighten a frame, jmo
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and what? u never made a mistake in your life? please save the preaching for church.. LOL

Funny, I played and played, earned a rep with my car and someone stole it to pull the drivetrain. Maybe I should have not learned control first so I could wreck my car rather than build it. :shrug:

As for mistakes... there is a difference between a mistake and stupidity. A mistake is say, driving home after working 20 hours on a double shift so you won't lose your job and nodding off and crashing compared to say, trying to hotdog around a corner in a solid axle rwd car and crashing.
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Old 12-04-2004 | 08:54 PM
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...Wait a minute, where did you come from Mark?? I haven't seen you on here in a while
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Old 12-04-2004 | 10:05 PM
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get rid of that wing
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get rid of that wing
That's your contribution to this thread? The sum total of your thoughts amounts to one lousy comment about his choice of spoiler?

It could be worse, I suppose. At least you didn't try to label his car as a particular food that's a staple of Japanese cuisine.
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he didnt start this thread to get comments on his wing
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