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Old 11-15-2004, 10:13 AM
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After comming home from a HIM show in Worcester, I go to use my car really early and there is a 3 inch puddle in the passenger seat. I Turkey Basted the water out and got it almost dried. Now i dont know but I have an idea that its the heater core, but my father said the towel that i used does not smell like coolant so it cant be the Heater Core. He said it must be a leak, in order for it to be a leak from the t tops it would have to go diagnal. Now he said then it must be the firewall leaking.
This was more of a possibility because my car was in an accident.
But there are no traces of water comming down into the car, its all dry.

But until i get my car running (GAY VATS system) i wont bring it to somebody.
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have you ever replaced your t-tops weather striping?? I know last year before i replaced mine water was coming like crazy!!! thats was when i was driving. so imagen if your car is sitting.. check that out sad ok bro....
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heater cores leak onto passenger floorboards, not passenger seats. If it's on the seat, look directly above the seat. Wouldn't half doubt t-top seals,they all leak after time, it's also not to uncommon for a drip to run down part of the t-top and drip instead, more than possible. Did you ever think of the possibility taht it's the rear door seals? If there wsa a rain of somesort, then it'd be more than possible that water was getting through there, or even the rear t-top seal, which would have more than enough angle to get water on the seat. Good luck hunting ur leak, they're nasty lil things to find. sit in the car while it rains, or sit in and have a friend hose it down. You'll find every leak in existance, and mightget a tad wet in the process.
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totally off-topic...
U got to go to a HIM concert? damn u... lol
Old 11-15-2004, 10:55 AM
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misworded

Im sorry I meant floorboard, i just meant the are so i typed seat by mistake. Sorry

Ramair21 : I have not replaced weather stripping. Thanks

85 Fbird : Sorry i explained it wrong but Yea its on the floorboard. I will go hunting for any other leaks tho, Thanks

Rabbitt : Yes i went to a HIM show. Haha It was good but the BAM scene killed it if you know what i mean. People were screaming the singers name but Butchering it, and that pisses me off. The crowd would only sing along with the songs that are on cky or just razorblade romance. I have pretty much everything besides the rarest.
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I found out the other dya my Ttops only leak if i have them locked, if i leave them unlocked im leak free. strange huh?
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TraviZ.. adjust the locking pin mounts a little higher and you should be fine.

lxcamaroxl: You'll get water in the car one of three ways if it's from t-tops: rust hole, failed sealant along the front or rear rail, or failed sealant at the front or rear corner where the t-top meets the door window.

Most likely, water is leaking underneath the weatherstrip somewhere along the front or rear rail, streaming down to the end of the rail near the windows, dripping onto the inside of the interior trim pieces, and then eventually down onto the floor. The other leak area is right in the corners by the windows. If you take off the t-top and pull back the weatherstrip from the body a bit, there should be a clay-like material filling up that corner. When new weatherstrip is put in place, it doesn't attach to the body in that area and has to be filled.

You will most likely be forced to change the weatherstripping entirely. This will allow you to clean up everything on the body and you'll be certain that you've covered all areas that might leak.
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is the water infront of the seat or behind cause my t-tops leak and it ends up behind the seat
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i had the same problem .....ok do thin take a water hose ,bucket or something like that .....take the passanger side kick panel off ans DUMP the water on the windshield or if you really want to know just open the hood and look on the pass side where the computer wires go into the fender and pour water into that hole (it follows any wires and drips right inside the car)
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Originally posted by BRILLIANTRED1
i had the same problem .....ok do thin take a water hose ,bucket or something like that .....take the passanger side kick panel off ans DUMP the water on the windshield or if you really want to know just open the hood and look on the pass side where the computer wires go into the fender and pour water into that hole (it follows any wires and drips right inside the car)
There shouldn't be any exposed wires... they should be in a rubber loom that's sealed on both the body and the door. If there's no loom there, this is definitely a leak spot.

iroc87matt: it's either the rear corner or some part of the rear rail that is leaking, most likely. But when t-tops start leaking with original weatherstripping, all you can really do is change it.
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I say its a heater core only because he hadnt had any water previous to this from the sounds of it and then all of a sudden he has a puddle of water??

i wouldnt suspect seals if it was the first time i found water in the floor i would suspect a leak of another sorts...
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I was under the impression that this is a fairly recent purchase. It seemed like he said it was in an accident as if it wasn't while he owned the car, and the car doesn't run yet since VATS has disabled it.
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Originally posted by lxcamaroxl
After comming home from a HIM show in Worcester, I go to use my car really early and there is a 3 inch puddle in the passenger seat. I Turkey Basted the water out and got it almost dried. Now i dont know but I have an idea that its the heater core, but my father said the towel that i used does not smell like coolant so it cant be the Heater Core. He said it must be a leak, in order for it to be a leak from the t tops it would have to go diagnal. Now he said then it must be the firewall leaking.
This was more of a possibility because my car was in an accident.
But there are no traces of water comming down into the car, its all dry.

But until i get my car running (GAY VATS system) i wont bring it to somebody.

Originally posted by CaysE
I was under the impression that this is a fairly recent purchase. It seemed like he said it was in an accident as if it wasn't while he owned the car, and the car doesn't run yet since VATS has disabled it.

yeah you may be right but he also stated in the first post up above that he was "going to use his car real early "...

now im confused here which is it ?

how long have you owned this car and do you drive it ??

if youve owned it for a while how long and has it ever done this before??
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heater core


i've never seen another leak end up on the passenger floorboard
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Originally posted by kretos
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i've never seen another leak end up on the passenger floorboard
You must not have t-tops then... or you do and they seal good. My t-tops leaked all over the floorboard before I changed the weatherstrip.
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You must not have t-tops then... or you do and they seal good. My t-tops leaked all over the floorboard before I changed the weatherstrip.
yeah ive seen t-tops leak so badly that they will fill up the rear floorboard up to the seat level almost....

luckily our 84 z we had never leaked....
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yeah ive seen t-tops leak so badly that they will fill up the rear floorboard up to the seat level almost....

luckily our 84 z we had never leaked....
yeah i have t tops, my rear floorboard used to get flooded.
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depending on which part of the seals are leaking ive also seen them fill a front floor board up too...
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don't know if this has been said or not,

If you car has sat outside for most of it's life, open up your hood and look below the fan blower in the passenger side firewall. Look down underneath it and see if there is a large collection of leaves and other crud.

I would get a puddle on my passenger footwell every time it rained. All that clutter under the blower motor trapped moister and rotted out my firewall. Now I have a 3-4 inch rusted out hole that lets water right in.

I haven't fixed this problem yet since the car hasn't been driven in a while, but Im sure it will take some time to fix it properly.


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Ok sorry, i guess i was confusing. Thanks all of you, Im going to change my weatherstripping.

Ok
THEGENERAL : I have owned the car for about 2 months and i drive it all the time and every now and then i cant start my car but now its worse and i couldnt start it for a few days. There has never been a puddle but it does get wet, and it seems to be only when i have used the AC or Heat. I left it on defrost all night, even tho the car was not running i thought that might of had something to do with it.
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Now that you mention you had the defrost setting on, it very well could be the heater core, but if you're POSITIVE that the liquid didn't smell like coolant (assuming you use coolant instead of straight water in the cooling system), then I'm inclined to guess it could be rotting along the firewall, under the cowl screen between the wipers, or somewhere around the HVAC blower motor allowing water into the car.

I'd still change the weatherstripping anyway just to get that headache out of the way. Next thing I would do is turn on the heat with the car on... does it smell like coolant? It's the heater core. Again, this is assuming you're using coolant and not straight water in the cooling system. Also, be sure that both doors have the proper wiring boot/loom between the door and frame near the hinges, and that they are properly mounted and in good shape.

If you're still coming up empty, check those areas above for rust and/or holes.
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Now that you mention you had the defrost setting on, it very well could be the heater core, but if you're POSITIVE that the liquid didn't smell like coolant (assuming you use coolant instead of straight water in the cooling system), then I'm inclined to guess it could be rotting along the firewall, under the cowl screen between the wipers, or somewhere around the HVAC blower motor allowing water into the car.

I'd still change the weatherstripping anyway just to get that headache out of the way. Next thing I would do is turn on the heat with the car on... does it smell like coolant? It's the heater core. Again, this is assuming you're using coolant and not straight water in the cooling system. Also, be sure that both doors have the proper wiring boot/loom between the door and frame near the hinges, and that they are properly mounted and in good shape.

If you're still coming up empty, check those areas above for rust and/or holes.
yup do as he says
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if its in the floor its the core. but in the seat, dont think so.
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ok Im going to look around that cowl screen and motor to see what i get.

I use coolant and it didnt smell like coolant.

Thanks a lot guys. Where can i buy some good weatherstripping
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Re: 3 inch puddle

Originally Posted by iroc87matt
is the water infront of the seat or behind cause my t-tops leak and it ends up behind the seat
yeah so did mine (drivers side only) and then i replaced the weatherstripping and did a damn good job cleaning it up i thought....
Doesnt leak in the back seat anymore......

Now it completely soaks the drivers side seat instead..... I hate water with such a passion!!
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