Jenkins

Just a quick question. Did some 89 Irocs have a 'Camaro' emblem instead of an 'Iroc' dash emblem?

Zrated83

iTrader: (17)

I think if it was an Iroc it should have came with the Iroc-Z emblem

labrat

All 89 Iroc-z's would have a red dash emblem that says Z28 with IROC-Z under that.

89_IROC_98U

What labrat said. The 'CAMARO' plaque on the dash didn't start until the '90 RS. It continued with the '91 RS and was discontinued with the advent of the '92 'RS 25TH ANNIVERSARY' dash plaque.

Did I get this one right?

- 89_IROC

Jenkins

I'm not sure I understand the "labrat" part, but, otherwise all 1989 IROCs have an IROC emblem. The reason I am asking is because there is an 89 IROC for sale around here. It has the 5.0TPI and auto combination. It has the IROC front with the foglights, but the dash emblem says Camaro on it. That's the part that's different from what I thought it should be. The car looks very stock other than aftermarket 16in wheels and tires.

screaminformula

every 1989 IROC i have ever seen, to include my former 89 (moment of silence people) all had the Z28 badge with IROC-Z under it. the 87-down have Z28 with either Tuned Port Injection, 5.0 Liter High Output (L69) or nothing (base motor) under it. as far as the Camaro badge, it did not start in 1990 (good try though), it started in original form back in 1982. the badge style changed over the years, but has always been there...

Josh

BLACK ICE

My 89 Iroc only had a Z28 badge with nothing under it

screaminformula

hmmm, with the 350 TPI right? hard to explain that one unless it was for some reason replaced...? but most likely just something weird that happened at the factory...go figure...lol

Josh

89_IROC_98U

I have two phrases for you at this point:

1. RPO Codes
2. VIN

Get them, decode them, and find out what the car really is before you get scammed. There WAS a RS in '89 which, now that I think about it, probably had the 'CAMARO' dash plaque. All IROC-Z cars have a dash plaque that reads 'Z28' with 'IROC-Z' in small red/orange letters beneath it. The '90 IROCs have yellow dash plaques.

- 89_IROC

screaminformula

you are CORRECT 89_IROC, the '89 RS did in fact EXIST and did have the silver CAMARO script with the little Camaro emblem (red, white and blue one) at the beginning of it.

Josh

89_IROC_98U

I got one!

- 89_IROC

screaminformula

oh do ya? like as in extra parts or another car lurkin around...? i've only got the good 'ol Z28 badge...

Josh

89_IROC_98U

Josh,

Whoops - sorry about that. I meant that I got one right (finally)

I wish I had a couple extras layin' around; if I'd had any brains at all, I'd have been buying a set of rocker emblems and a rear panel emblem (silver, of course) with each paycheck starting in 2000 when I got the car. Since I don't have any brains, I didn't do that - I had to refurb my two original rocker emblems. They didn't come out badly at all, but I'd rather have new ones.

- 89_IROC

Air_Adam

Jenkins

The VIN is 1g1fp21fkl117072. I think this means it is an IROC. By the way the speedo reads only to 110.

waltersb

Vin doesn't tell you if it's an IROC...

you need to decode the RPO codes and look for a couple of specific ones in there...

WS6? I think.. (probably wrong)
upgraded suspension was one.

If you do a search, there's a post somewhere about what codes a IROC had compared to RS...

89_IROC_98U

RPO 'Z28' says that you have an IROC for model years '88 through '90; you don't have an IROC without this RPO, and there was no RS for the '88 and '89 model years (CA and a couple of other states had the RS in '89, however.) The RS was replaced by the Camaro coupe, which had 'CAMARO' rocker and rear panel badges.

I don't know all of the suspension RPOs, but FE2 is one and I believe that F41 is another. FE2 was the top IROC suspension package. WS6 applies to Firebird only

- 89_IROC

edit: I think that, for the '89 model year (and maybe the '88 as well, although I may be wrong), all IROC Camaros except convertible received the 145mph speedometer regardless of engine size. The convertible received the 110mph unit. Someone hook me up if I'm wrong - I hate spreading misinformation.

ll-84camaro-ll

mine has the silver camaro badge. mine is a 84 berlinetta

89_IROC_98U

The Berlinetta has the 'CAMARO' badge on the rear panel (IIRC); it also has 'BERLINETTA' badges on the sail panels. Berlinettas didn't come from the factory with ground effects if I'm not mistaken.

89_IROC

waltersb

My speedo is 185 kph (canadian), Common on the auto 305 version I believe.

Usually people try to upgrade to the 245 kph one.

89_IROC_98U

Whoops - I should've edited my earlier post again to specify U.S. vehicles. I don't know anything at all about how Canadian cars were or weren't optioned. Sometimes we learn something new every day

- 89_IROC

Jenkins

Ok, one of the RPO codes is Z28. And since the 8th digit in the VIN is an f, which should signify 305 tpi, it must be an IROC, because only the IROC could get the tpi engine. Rocker emblems read IROC and it does have the louvered hood. I think it is an IROC.

89_IROC_98U

This would be true for the '88-'90 Camaro, but not necessarily so for the '85-'87 since there was a Z28 model in addition to IROC-Z28; the '85-'87 Z28 could also receive the TPI engine.

Rocker emblems will say 'IROC-Z' for '88-'90 IROC-Z Camaros since there was no Z28 for those years. '85-'87 IROC-Z28 Camaros have 'Z28' rocker emblems.

Since one of your RPOs is Z28, the next step is to match the VIN on the RPO sticker to the car's VIN - you do have an IROC if they match.

Keep in mind that the only important things to look for are the RPOs and the VIN - the rest is just details. RPOs and the VIN tell what a car is, so it doesn't matter what hood, engine, emblems, or anything else you have.

Man, does this site have great info or what!

- 89_IROC

89_IROC_98U

because here's what I found:

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Here are the results for your query on: 1g1fp21fkl117072

Made in: United States
Manufacturer: General Motors
Make: Chevrolet
Carline Code: F-Body
Carline Series: Camaro (all models)
Body Type: 2 door coupe (hatchback)
Restraint System: Manual belts
Engine Code: 305 ci V8 LB9 (1987-1992)
k is the CHECK DIGIT
Model Year: 1990
1 is NOT a known Assembly Plant code
Production Sequence: 17072
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Take note of the model year and the assembly plant code; you're saying that the car is an '89, but the VIN doesn't agree. Are you sure you copied it correctly?

- 89_IROC

Jenkins

Yes the VIN on the RPO matches the cars VIN. I did check the VIN and the year in L. That should be an 89, not 90.

waltersb

That VIN is missing a digit....

here is most of mine (I have an 89 iroc)

1G1FP21F7KLXXXXXX

engine code is F(matching yours), which is a 305 TPI, which according to the tech data was only found on the Camaro IROC-Z
in 1989

Jenkins

Your right. The real VIN is 1G1FP21F7KL117072