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Old 11-18-2003, 11:17 PM
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right wheels stick more out of the car than left side

I have two 1991 Z28 Lb9 Camaro's, one is automatic and the other manual and they both have the characteristic that the right wheels stick out of the body about one or two inches more than the left side. This makes the right side look more sporty and stuff. Why is this?. Is this a characteristic of all the Camaro's?. Last year I bought 4 new tires for my car which where wider than the normal ones and the left rear wheel would not fit. We had to bang on the wheel well a little bit with a sledgehammer to make a little more space. Is something wrong with my car. Can I fix it so that the car looks more symetric?. Are spacers recommended and if so which?. Are they safe?.
Old 11-18-2003, 11:23 PM
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if you have 16" wheels on your car it is because somebody put the wron offset wheels on the wrong hubs camaros have dedicated front and rear wheels you can't mix and match them look very closely at the wheels they should say front or rear on them somewhere
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I feel your pain. My 87 TA is the same way. I have the WS6 GTA gold wheels. I have pics that I took that show this oddity, but they are too large, I have to mess with them. I saw a camaro with the same problem. But I dont think its completely normal. Only thing I could come up with is that the panhard bar is out of whack... Still workin on this one.
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Old 11-19-2003, 09:40 AM
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Originally posted by badandy247
if you have 16" wheels on your car it is because somebody put the wron offset wheels on the wrong hubs camaros have dedicated front and rear wheels you can't mix and match them look very closely at the wheels they should say front or rear on them somewhere
You can put front offset wheels on all 4 corners, but the rears have issues when you put them on the front.
I had 4 front GTA wheels on my 86 Trans Am and I now have 4 front Formula wheels on my 88 Formula. It gives it a better stance and allows you to rotate the tires front to back if you have directional tires, or flip flop them if you have normal tires.
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you got me thinking about it....if you bent the panhard bar, the wheels would be closer to the right then the left.
you wouldnt see them closer to the left too often, because you arnt really going to streach the bar...



id measure the panhard bar, and then see if you can find the measurments for a stock one.. or just get a aftermarket replacement bar right now...



because my next set of wheels are going to be 11" wide, and im shoving the entire wheel well full, im probly going to have the same problem. production tolerances let the whole axle move side to side a bit..... im getting a aftermarket adjustible panhard bar and hopefully that will take care of it for me.
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MrDude....Its funny, right after I posted I was thinking about that. Then between working and doing other things around the house, I forgot to check. I think the way my wheels appear would go along with the bent panhard bar idea. Im not positive. Ill have her up on a lift tonight to do some stuff so Ill check it out. The one day I found my end link on the one side completely snapped in half. I thought maybe that was throwing things off...but no luck. Once the car is in the air with the wheel dangling...everything looks centered up. No matter where I measure from and to there is no problem. Only thing I could think of is maybe something happened to one of the back wheels and someone bought another one? I also read somewhere that the back wheels on GTAs had small spacers because of the offset. Maybe one was left out? I dunno...Im going to look into it further. Any more ideas shoot them out there. im also gonna post my pics tonight when I get home.
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P.S. Im also thinkin of gettin and adjustable panhard bar. Are they easy to adjust? I mean...do you know what all is involved to get things centered...or is that for an alignment shop?

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Adjusting an adjustable panhard is not hard at all.
Depending on what kind you choose, adjustment can be seconds or minutes.
I have the Lakewood one on my trans am right now and I have to take off one end, twist the end to lengthen or shorten it and then put it on and see how it sits. took 2 or 3 tries to get it right.

I have a BMR Adjustable one that is going on the car when I get around to putting it on. This one has a turnbuckle in the middle and all you do is loosen the lock nuts and twist the turnbuckle.
Much easier to adjust than the LAkewood one.

Here is the lakewood,

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Originally posted by ghettocruiser

P.S. Im also thinkin of gettin and adjustable panhard bar. Are they easy to adjust? I mean...do you know what all is involved to get things centered...or is that for an alignment shop?

i havent done one yet since i havent bought it yet...

but i would imagine like zepher said.... pretty easy..

theres only 2 bolts, and you only have to undo one of them to change the length on the ones im looking at...

some of them have turnbuckles and you just have the locknuts holding them.... but for this, i kinda feel more secure knowing that even if the locknut comes loose, it still wont be able to change...
same thing with the LCAs..
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Originally posted by MrDude_1
some of them have turnbuckles and you just have the locknuts holding them.... but for this, i kinda feel more secure knowing that even if the locknut comes loose, it still wont be able to change...
same thing with the LCAs..
It still requires a lot of force for the turnbuckle stlye to move if the lock nuts come loose.
Unless the rear of the car is hanging, you can't adjust the lakewood by yourself very easily.
I had my car on the ground and there was no way I could push the body over to get the bolt to line up, so I had my brother push the body while I put the bolt in.
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heh, i didnt even think you could do it with the weight of the body on it.... i was going to lift the car in the air, move the axle and set it back down to check it.....
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Body moves back and forth freely when the panhard is disconnected. It's just hard to move it while you are under it and trying to get the bolt in.
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Originally posted by Zepher
Body moves back and forth freely when the panhard is disconnected. It's just hard to move it while you are under it and trying to get the bolt in.

good to know... thanks...


any other tips on adjusting it?
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nope, that's about it. Pretty easy to do and I don't see how anyone can screw it up.
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Hello, as far the the wheel sticking out to far on one side or the other that has been an issue on f-bodies since the second gens. I had a 80 turbo trans am that had that condition and I currently own a 97 firehawk. if you stand behind it and look down the side the left wheel comes out further than the right. So either the axle is shifted to the left or the body to the right, however you look at it. I think ghettocruiser and dude are onto something with the panhard bar. I had my gas tank out not to long ago and I took the panhard off. You can move the axle side to side. An adjustable one seems to be a good idea. I have a couple ideas why this condition is there just nothing certain.
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My 92 RS was like that when I had it, and my current 91 Z28 is like that too.

Go look at the front tires/rims......same or off like the rear?
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