Body General body information and techniques for restoration, repairs, and modifications.

US shoulder belts

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 07-27-2003, 04:35 PM
  #1  
Senior Member

Thread Starter
 
gholian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Ireland
Posts: 616
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 82 Pontiac Firebird s/e
Engine: 2.8 V6
Transmission: TH200C
US shoulder belts

Fitted a set of new shoulder belts to my 82 firebird. Got them from 95 Trans AM. My old ones wouldn't recoil great. I fitted the new belts yesterday and they recoil great. I have a question though, on the cars here in Europe when you snap the belts they lock. On the belts I fitted and on the old belts they won't lock when I pull them hard, is this normal?. When the belts are out of the car they lock great but when they are fitted to the roof they won't lock.
Old 07-27-2003, 05:49 PM
  #2  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (1)
 
Zepher's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Norfolk, VA. USA
Posts: 7,964
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Car: 86 Trans Am, 88 Formula
Engine: 95LT4, 305TPI
Transmission: T56, T5
When you are driving and either accelerate or brake, the mechanism will lock. I believe there is a counterweight inside the retractor.
Old 07-27-2003, 06:09 PM
  #3  
Supreme Member

 
MrDude_1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Charleston, SC
Posts: 9,550
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Car: 91 Camaro Vert
Engine: 02 LS1, HX40
Transmission: 2002 LS1 M6
yea.. there is a weight, so whenever you break hard, accell hard, or turn really hard, they should lock..... othwise they should roll in and out smoothly.


if you break hard enough that it locks and hold the pressure on the belt even after you stop, they should remain locked until you take the pressure off...
Old 07-27-2003, 06:49 PM
  #4  
Supreme Member

 
Randy82WS7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: 62656
Posts: 4,812
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1991 S10 pickup 2700lbs
Engine: 4.3L Z TBI
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.08 7.625"
and if they dont do all that is described above then they are faulty
and i would be weary of them

good luck
Old 07-28-2003, 04:14 AM
  #5  
Senior Member

 
SC82TA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Los Angeles, CA/San Diego
Posts: 803
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Car: 1982 Pontiac Trans Am
Engine: Stock carbed 305
Transmission: Stock 200C
What did you do to swap in the new belts into your 82? I know there is an tech article on this site how to swap in 4th gen belts, but the guy has an 88 car and 82's had a different setup than the later years. Was it hard? I'm really interested because my belts just don't like retracting either and are really faded. I have found some decent belts in the yards out of other third gens but I'm weary because those seatbelts are also old as well...so if I could get newer 4th gen seatbelts I think that would be ideal.
Old 07-28-2003, 04:33 AM
  #6  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (1)
 
Zepher's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Norfolk, VA. USA
Posts: 7,964
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Car: 86 Trans Am, 88 Formula
Engine: 95LT4, 305TPI
Transmission: T56, T5
Originally posted by SC82TA
What did you do to swap in the new belts into your 82? I know there is an tech article on this site how to swap in 4th gen belts, but the guy has an 88 car and 82's had a different setup than the later years. Was it hard? I'm really interested because my belts just don't like retracting either and are really faded. I have found some decent belts in the yards out of other third gens but I'm weary because those seatbelts are also old as well...so if I could get newer 4th gen seatbelts I think that would be ideal.
The 82 is almost like the 4th gens, at least my friends 82 is.
He only has one retractor and that is on the ceiling of the car.
My 86 and 88 have 2 retractors, one on the floor and one on the ceiling.
Old 07-28-2003, 04:39 AM
  #7  
Senior Member

 
SC82TA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Los Angeles, CA/San Diego
Posts: 803
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Car: 1982 Pontiac Trans Am
Engine: Stock carbed 305
Transmission: Stock 200C
Thanks Zepher....I've seen your friends 82 and I love that car. I want to do the LT-1 swap he has done, with my 82. I PMed him and he gave me his number to contact him, but I just haven't had the opportunity to call, mainly because of the time difference me being on the west coast. I'm glad to hear that the seatbelt works on my car though, now I have to locate them, but I'd still like a little more info so I don't run into any problems =) Oh, on a side note did you decide to keep your T/A or not?
Old 07-28-2003, 05:17 AM
  #8  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (1)
 
Zepher's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Norfolk, VA. USA
Posts: 7,964
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Car: 86 Trans Am, 88 Formula
Engine: 95LT4, 305TPI
Transmission: T56, T5
I am still undecided on the T/A. but I will continue to work on it till it's done or sold. Everything is for sale if the price is right.
Old 07-28-2003, 12:24 PM
  #9  
Senior Member

Thread Starter
 
gholian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Ireland
Posts: 616
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 82 Pontiac Firebird s/e
Engine: 2.8 V6
Transmission: TH200C
For the guy asking about the seat belts. The 4th gen belts are a perfect fit for the 82 Firebird. I needed a set in Tan and found the below website. Gave the guy a call and got them sent over. I found him very nice to deal with. One thing I will mention is that you may also need to change the holder that the buckle fits into as some of the 4th Gen cars use a thicker buckle than on the 82 Birds. Hope this helps.

http://www.billygrahamscamaro.com/
Old 07-28-2003, 01:07 PM
  #10  
Senior Member

 
SC82TA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Los Angeles, CA/San Diego
Posts: 803
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Car: 1982 Pontiac Trans Am
Engine: Stock carbed 305
Transmission: Stock 200C
So it was a direct bolt on then? No modifications at all? Wow...nice to know, thanks a lot.
Old 07-28-2003, 01:44 PM
  #11  
Senior Member

Thread Starter
 
gholian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Ireland
Posts: 616
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 82 Pontiac Firebird s/e
Engine: 2.8 V6
Transmission: TH200C
Yes a direct bolt on. The 4th gen mechanism on the roof is practically identical to that used on the early 3gen Firebirds
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
MrPackstin
Interior Parts for Sale
11
10-25-2017 08:09 PM
sparks454
Interior Parts Wanted
4
10-18-2015 03:18 PM
SRKLEGIN
Interior Parts Wanted
5
10-12-2015 07:28 AM
SRKLEGIN
Interior
3
09-30-2015 07:19 PM
kitt23
Interior
0
09-26-2015 07:48 PM



Quick Reply: US shoulder belts



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:31 PM.