Custom Diamond Plate interior
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Custom Diamond Plate interior
What you guys think of the interior? now has a black carpet and white face reverse indiglo gauges (140mph). Still looking for 1) Headliner shell 2)racing seats with harnesses can anyone help me out?
http://members.aol.com/ooospeedfreakooo/firebird.html
http://members.aol.com/ooospeedfreakooo/firebird.html
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sorry, not a fan at all. sub setup looks half-assed (carpeting is not that hard), and the console is way too boxy. the mats just look dangerous....
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I like....I'd really like to see some more pictures of the console...It does look boxy around the radio, But I'd like to see some more of it before I decide how to do mine!
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not a fan of the diamond plate in a camaro. that should be in a big *** jeep or truck with 44" boggers, not a camaro. as far as the box goes, is that whole thing made of plywood? i've heard some horror stories of people making sub boxes out of plywood, and them just exploding from the subs hitting.
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#9
You would think that he would make the sub box also metal since he made everything else it. BUt anyways it looks terrible, that has to be the biggest waste of money I have ever seen. I think people and steor systems are getting way to overrated. As far as priorities I put my car before my stereo.
#10
Did you do the work yourself, or did you pay someone? If you paid someone to do that, you wasted your money. If you did it yourself.... well, I applaud your effort. I think that's the very first totally custom console I've seen in a third gen. Most people here just slap in a 4th gen console and call it custom or paint it. The boxiness of the console isn't as big a deal to me as everyone else, but the diamond plate definately seems like it doesn't fit.
The bright diamond plate fillers on the carpet just seem to make your carpet look dirty, and it really makes that red interior look bad. I'd try a different color scheme maybe. The car really has a dark look to the inside of it, and then you have these bright reflective steel plates that stick out like a sore thumb.
Again, I applaud your creativity, but it doesn't appeal to me.
Mathius
The bright diamond plate fillers on the carpet just seem to make your carpet look dirty, and it really makes that red interior look bad. I'd try a different color scheme maybe. The car really has a dark look to the inside of it, and then you have these bright reflective steel plates that stick out like a sore thumb.
Again, I applaud your creativity, but it doesn't appeal to me.
Mathius
#11
Who else?
OK well now that everyone has effectivly bashed on my car i want to see someother custom ideas? I have no problem taking criticism for my car and i guess its safe to say no one will be stealing my ideas but if your going to bash on it lets see what you guys did with the old ratty 3rd gen interior? As far as wasting money... all the metal work was done for free at a former place of employment and i have about $350 in my stereo its not a competition just sounds better than the stock system.
#12
Re: Custom Diamond Plate interior
Originally posted by oOSpeedFreakOo
What you guys think of the interior?
What you guys think of the interior?
And asking to see everyone elses customization because they don't like yours is silly. I don't do ballet, but i can still say a dancer sucks if shes on her *** more than shes on her feet.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to determine a rocket sucks.
We just dont think it looks good, sorry if you don't like hearing it.
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Re: Who else?
Originally posted by oOSpeedFreakOo
but if your going to bash on it lets see what you guys did with the old ratty 3rd gen interior?
but if your going to bash on it lets see what you guys did with the old ratty 3rd gen interior?
#15
Amazing Custom X
Personally I don't like the diamond look at all. I'm just not a big fan of over-the-top interiors. It looks like my dad's truck toolbox threw up inside the car. But I do have to appluad the effort as it most likely took ALOT of hard work (and a few headaches).
Also my opinion really doesn't matter, if he is happy with it.
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im not that big on the way you did the console....I think maybe it would look good if you accented it with the metal but theres just too much there and its not pleaseing to the eye...maybe in person it would look nicer not sure. I did simaler thing with my amp rack guys. This is all I'll ever do with this metal anymore would be too much i think IMO.
#19
I must applaud you for the effort to make that, and also to dare to do something different.
I think maybe it's just a little too much....
What about possbly covering up with some black leather or black fabric. I believe it looks good as accents
I think maybe it's just a little too much....
What about possbly covering up with some black leather or black fabric. I believe it looks good as accents
#21
well i will be honest man, its not really my style, but im not flaming you at all, i thank what you did is awesome, becuase you did what you wanted to do, and dont let anyone else tell you diffrent, you have nice crafstmanship skills, that metal you worked with is not easy, very thick stuff,
no worries man i got flamed alot when i did my swap,
no worries man i got flamed alot when i did my swap,
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Re: CustomX...
Originally posted by CaysE
WOW! you wanted someone else's interior, there you go. Talk about smooth. Except... uhh... what's up with the steering wheel? The tilt shaft looks too thin and long.
WOW! you wanted someone else's interior, there you go. Talk about smooth. Except... uhh... what's up with the steering wheel? The tilt shaft looks too thin and long.
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Its industrial looking. Too industrial looking.
The workmanship on the diamond plate looks OK- did you aluminum tig the center console or just fold it?
I don't think it would've looked all that bad with all flat stainless or something, but the diamond plate is just too rough for my liking. It must kill your right elbow when you rest it on the center console.
Anywho, at least you're trying things.
S-D
The workmanship on the diamond plate looks OK- did you aluminum tig the center console or just fold it?
I don't think it would've looked all that bad with all flat stainless or something, but the diamond plate is just too rough for my liking. It must kill your right elbow when you rest it on the center console.
Anywho, at least you're trying things.
S-D
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LIke one guy said, I applaud your attempt at making your car better because that stuff is hard to work with.
I still think it looks like crap though. Not my style at all. The floor mats are "ok" but the console is too much. I'm glad you went to black carpet though, like to see pics of that with the floormats. I tmay actually make it look better.
I still don't understand why people say something like this
then whine when we give our opinions. If you don't want our opinion don't post your pictures.
I still think it looks like crap though. Not my style at all. The floor mats are "ok" but the console is too much. I'm glad you went to black carpet though, like to see pics of that with the floormats. I tmay actually make it look better.
I still don't understand why people say something like this
What you guys think of the interior?
#28
Originally posted by BigMike92Z
LIke one guy said, I applaud your attempt at making your car better because that stuff is hard to work with.
I still think it looks like crap though. Not my style at all. The floor mats are "ok" but the console is too much. I'm glad you went to black carpet though, like to see pics of that with the floormats. I tmay actually make it look better.
I still don't understand why people say something like this
then whine when we give our opinions. If you don't want our opinion don't post your pictures.
LIke one guy said, I applaud your attempt at making your car better because that stuff is hard to work with.
I still think it looks like crap though. Not my style at all. The floor mats are "ok" but the console is too much. I'm glad you went to black carpet though, like to see pics of that with the floormats. I tmay actually make it look better.
I still don't understand why people say something like this
then whine when we give our opinions. If you don't want our opinion don't post your pictures.
Thanks again to those that did try giving advice or posting your pics i love the interiors above and that was my original intent in posting was to share different ideas its to bad some peoples egos are to big for that!!
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I agree it is a bit too boxy for my taste, but its original, I aplaud that. I get crap for my interior too so...I understand the frustration...if you want to check out mine...
www.cardomain.com/id/redraif
go to page 24 Interior...
Be careful with that sub box man...boxes have alot of pressure on them from the subs. Plywood is not recommended. Hate to see you blow up something. How did you seal the box?
www.cardomain.com/id/redraif
go to page 24 Interior...
Be careful with that sub box man...boxes have alot of pressure on them from the subs. Plywood is not recommended. Hate to see you blow up something. How did you seal the box?
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Originally posted by oOSpeedFreakOo
I dont have a problem wiht people telling me what they think but its kind of ****ty for people to say that they hate it or its the worst they have ever seen then why dont you offer some advice or show me what they did.
I dont have a problem wiht people telling me what they think but its kind of ****ty for people to say that they hate it or its the worst they have ever seen then why dont you offer some advice or show me what they did.
Leave the diamond plate to the ricers and Jeep owners.
Leave the krylon dash to the ricers.
A lot of us haven't done anything because we feel that stock is better than a half-assed low budget makeover. My interior stayed stock and in poor condition for a few years while I addressed other issues and saved some money. I'm a firm believer that there's no sense in doing something until you can do it right. I've had my equalizers, tv, dvd player and new head unit sitting in my living room for 3 months-2 years (depending on what piece of equipment we're talking about) while I gathered what I needed for my interior upgrade. This year I'll finally get around to redoing my interior.
#31
Originally posted by oOSpeedFreakOo
I dont have a problem wiht people telling me what they think but its kind of ****ty for people to say that they hate it or its the worst they have ever seen then why dont you offer some advice or show me what they did.
I dont have a problem wiht people telling me what they think but its kind of ****ty for people to say that they hate it or its the worst they have ever seen then why dont you offer some advice or show me what they did.
Pick a theme. Most custom jobs have one. it appears yours is "Diamonplate." Well, okay. But that theme (to me, anyway) is most often associated with 4x4's, lifted jeeps, and other rugged all terrain vehicles. IE: something OTHER than a thirdgen. When you pick a design or theme that you like, try to make the shape flow with it. The console looks like a 13 inch TV casing got shoved in to your dashboard.
Accenting is nice. Im a big fan of painting accents, i even did some in my car. But (imho) you picked pieces that are way too massive. WAY too much red in that car. Painted accents are best done in subtle fashion (imo).
Thanks to all of you who did post pics or make recommendations but on about a $400 budget including stereo system im pretty happy wiht what i have
Working on a budget sucks. We all agree. if all i can afford is a 200 dollar beater thats rotted out, hey, i should enjoy it as best as i can, but for me to sit there and call it a damn Ferrari just because i bought it on a budget is silly. Sure, its great for what i paid for it, but its not an Exotic Sports car.
But if you only have the ***** to sit online and bash on someone its obvious you dont have the ***** to try somthing new in your car so see lets what you guys did?
Its not bashing if you asked for constructive criticism, which (as many people have pointed out) you did. And many of us have EXTENSIVE plans in the works, but because WE ALSO work on a budget, were saving up our money slowly, so when people slam on our ideas later, we don't have to sit there and call our 200 dollar beaters Ferrari's.
And just because we don't like yours, that doesnt mean were afriad to try new things. WHAT IT MEANS, is that (in our humble opinions) we just think its ugly (me for the aforementioned reasons explained).
I don't have all the money for all the interior mods i have in the works, and im still gathering parts. But if you'd like to bash on my car a bit (since you legitimetely feel is what we are doing (which is sad)) you can check out what little i HAVE done to it at www.geocities.com/admrlam/Bird.html
Its not much, its a work in progress : shrug :
Thanks again to those that did try giving advice or posting your pics i love the interiors above and that was my original intent in posting was to share different ideas its to bad some peoples egos are to big for that!!
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firebird777 thats your interior? i thought it was a guy on here by the name of Buick88GSX or something like who owned that car. Do you have any more pictures of it cuz i always thought it looked awesome.
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Originally posted by LT1guy
You got flamed for that interior? Whats not to like? Got more pics, details?
You got flamed for that interior? Whats not to like? Got more pics, details?
#35
Originally posted by irocbirdbuilder
how the hell could anyone do such a thing no not the interior but flame on you for the 4th gen intrior i love that the 4th gen interior in a 3d gen cvar looks sweet awesome job
how the hell could anyone do such a thing no not the interior but flame on you for the 4th gen intrior i love that the 4th gen interior in a 3d gen cvar looks sweet awesome job
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Be careful with that sub box man...boxes have alot of pressure on them from the subs. Plywood is not recommended. Hate to see you blow up something. How did you seal the box? [/B][/QUOTE]
not really mine isnt even boxed in totally on the bottom and it still hits harder than anything havent destroyed mine yet and it isnt exactly quiet
not really mine isnt even boxed in totally on the bottom and it still hits harder than anything havent destroyed mine yet and it isnt exactly quiet
#37
72buickgsx was my old site name i changed my email since then, so i cant get my password, so i just made firebird7777,
yeah guys , there are alot of hardcore people who like nothing but stock thirdgen/s on this board, haha the biggest saying was if you want 4th gen interior then go buy a 4th gen car, , at the time i had only seen a camaro over seas that had the swap, so when i did mine with firehawk interior , people were not to crazy on the ideal yet, now since alot more people have done the swap, the flames on 4th gen interior in 3rd gen cars is over,
yeah guys , there are alot of hardcore people who like nothing but stock thirdgen/s on this board, haha the biggest saying was if you want 4th gen interior then go buy a 4th gen car, , at the time i had only seen a camaro over seas that had the swap, so when i did mine with firehawk interior , people were not to crazy on the ideal yet, now since alot more people have done the swap, the flames on 4th gen interior in 3rd gen cars is over,
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ok, i give you an A for effort, and a B+ for staying on task with your color options.
however...
the diamond plate just seems like too much for me and the same with the seat covers. im not flaming you man cause as of now my car isnt much to compete with, but you asked for opinions and thats my say. ill post the stuff up here for those that dont want to wait for this page and another to load....
however...
the diamond plate just seems like too much for me and the same with the seat covers. im not flaming you man cause as of now my car isnt much to compete with, but you asked for opinions and thats my say. ill post the stuff up here for those that dont want to wait for this page and another to load....
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Hey, just curious if you got the painting the gauge bezel idea from me. I think I was the first person to do that here. (Don't worry, I'd be flattered, not offended.) Most people love it, a few don't and have stated that here, I can respect that.
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Originally posted by irocbirdbuilder
not really mine isnt even boxed in totally on the bottom and it still hits harder than anything havent destroyed mine yet and it isnt exactly quiet
not really mine isnt even boxed in totally on the bottom and it still hits harder than anything havent destroyed mine yet and it isnt exactly quiet
With my box its sealed with caulking at every seam and the sub has a this dence foam that you use on doors in houses to stop drafts. There is not any leaking in my box. Made a world of differance over the crap I got that sub in. Thing was all distorted sounding and we thought is was blown. Nope the box was bad. It was set up for 2 subs and one was bad. I took it apart and used the wood to make a new sub box for the one good sub and it made all the difference.
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Raif, it really depends on the overall setup. I don't want to be critical of his audio system (since he never asked for opinions on it), but with the low power of that system, the plywood is perfectly sufficient. If he were to use a substantially more powerful amp and speakers with a higher power handling ability, then the severe limitations of the plywood would become an issue.
Raif, the reason that MDF is preferred is because it is much more dense than plywood. It won't resonate, so it's much more acoustically transparent. It's also MUCH easier to work with because of its consistent nature. It's very strong, and the glue sticks to it VERY well. Also, because plywood is laminated, if you glue to the side of plywood, it's not strong at all. The top layer will just separate from the lower layers. Basically all of your strength is in the screws, where with an MDF box, all the screws do is keep it tight while the glue hardens.
The problem with MDF is that not all hardware stores carry it, so sometimes you have to wait for them to order it. To me it's well worth the wait, but even if for whatever reason your priorities are different, it's best to at least stick with Particle board. It's nowhere near as good as MDF, but still better than plywood.
Raif, the reason that MDF is preferred is because it is much more dense than plywood. It won't resonate, so it's much more acoustically transparent. It's also MUCH easier to work with because of its consistent nature. It's very strong, and the glue sticks to it VERY well. Also, because plywood is laminated, if you glue to the side of plywood, it's not strong at all. The top layer will just separate from the lower layers. Basically all of your strength is in the screws, where with an MDF box, all the screws do is keep it tight while the glue hardens.
The problem with MDF is that not all hardware stores carry it, so sometimes you have to wait for them to order it. To me it's well worth the wait, but even if for whatever reason your priorities are different, it's best to at least stick with Particle board. It's nowhere near as good as MDF, but still better than plywood.
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Thanks for the info Jim. I appreciate it. I was simply going on what I had heard and logic. Using logic and my line of thought for using or not using was dead on what you said. Nice to know my line of thought was correct.
Right now I only have particle board for my box. Hits clean and decent. Though its nothing with any serious amperage. But I plan to redo it with a better harder hitting system and I will be using the MDF and making it look professional with a more custom fit.
Right now I only have particle board for my box. Hits clean and decent. Though its nothing with any serious amperage. But I plan to redo it with a better harder hitting system and I will be using the MDF and making it look professional with a more custom fit.
#47
When i got to UB's architecture school and saw the Materials Shop, i was drooling over building stereo boxes in there, and making car parts in my spare time from school.
Then i saw the huge *** sign hanging on the door. "No MDF, no Fiberglass, no Resin." LOL.
Go figure
Then i saw the huge *** sign hanging on the door. "No MDF, no Fiberglass, no Resin." LOL.
Go figure
#49
Hey maverick, I agree. Dont get me wrong, I would prefer my 84 Z28 over my bird, but the bird dash and interior looks alot better imho. The camaro dash is too basic race looking, plus the gauge cluster is one small cluster f*ck.which is what alot of people like.
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i think the camaros r way better interior wise.
and alot and i mean alot of premade boxes u can get in stores are NOT mdf. so watch out if you buy a box. and yea since his amp is pyramid i dont see any signs of him blowing his plate up lol
and alot and i mean alot of premade boxes u can get in stores are NOT mdf. so watch out if you buy a box. and yea since his amp is pyramid i dont see any signs of him blowing his plate up lol