What is the procedure to paint blue pearl ?
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Originally posted by jocww
lots of steps tons of cash just to buy the materials
lots of steps tons of cash just to buy the materials
mat89rs....pearl can be as easy as preping the body, primer, base coat, clear coat with pearl added, plain clear coat.
that is the simplest way, the paint shop i use does that weekly and turns out beutiful everytime. That procedure with the basic kind of paints and nothing to fancy probably would cost around $5-600 for the materials. maybe even less if you know the shop really well (like i do
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Now if you want to go with a candy color or something like that, than you will have a lot more steps, material cost, and labor.
I think the cheapest pearl that i have found is around $30 for enough to do a whole car, but i would have to re-check...so dont take my word for it
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I called my local part store, he said 223$US worth of material not including the sanding paper and stuff like that.
he quoted that for B504P
Brand of paint is : Dimension
Base coat with pearl in it
Reducer
Clear
hardener
Thinner
Primer
I have extra pearl at home that I could add the the clear.
What do you think about that ???
he quoted that for B504P
Brand of paint is : Dimension
Base coat with pearl in it
Reducer
Clear
hardener
Thinner
Primer
I have extra pearl at home that I could add the the clear.
What do you think about that ???
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Would someone be kind enough to explain the whole pearl and candy thing to me?
Is it just colours? Something in the paint (like metal flakes but different)? Single stage or base-clear? etc etc
Thanks
Is it just colours? Something in the paint (like metal flakes but different)? Single stage or base-clear? etc etc
Thanks
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i'm certainly no expert, but i think im starting to understand...
pearls are "kind of like" metallics, but a world apart. i believe you can mix them in paint, but most put them in the clearcoat. they can be differnt colors. i.e. some people here have white paint w/ blue pearl in the clear coat.
candies are a whole nother ball game. definitely cool, but definitely cost a small fortune, and should never be attempted by a novice painter. again, you use a base coat. then spray the kandy coat over it, which is transluscent (giving a look like a red candy apple). as far as i am concerned, they are impossible to repair, without repainting the entire panel.
hope i was right.
pearls are "kind of like" metallics, but a world apart. i believe you can mix them in paint, but most put them in the clearcoat. they can be differnt colors. i.e. some people here have white paint w/ blue pearl in the clear coat.
candies are a whole nother ball game. definitely cool, but definitely cost a small fortune, and should never be attempted by a novice painter. again, you use a base coat. then spray the kandy coat over it, which is transluscent (giving a look like a red candy apple). as far as i am concerned, they are impossible to repair, without repainting the entire panel.
hope i was right.
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As long as you have the correct mixture, it doesn't really matter too much if you vary on the brands...
the mixture used on mine is from basf, Diamond does the pearl.
I think you got the idea of 2 stage right on, 2 stage works by putting a close matching color then spraying on it the pearl mixture to match... whole panels have to be done at a time as blending is next to impossible as I recall.
the mixture used on mine is from basf, Diamond does the pearl.
I think you got the idea of 2 stage right on, 2 stage works by putting a close matching color then spraying on it the pearl mixture to match... whole panels have to be done at a time as blending is next to impossible as I recall.
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www.autobodystore.com they have a message board there that can answer any question you could ever come up with. I am getting ready to paint my Iroc and they have been so helpful. Len Stuart has a video there for sale called painting 101 and it is excellent.
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pearl is just plastic pieces added to the paint candy is just a fancy word for deep colors that just gloss and usually have pearl but not all the time
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If the concept of pearl was that simple then it would not cost so much to produce...
Pearl based paints don't use plastic... they used metal of varying thickness and refractive qualities as small flakes added to the paint.
http://www.pcimag.com/CDA/ArticleInf...,76212,00.html
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Most interference (pearlescent or luster) pigments now consist of at least three layers of two materials with different refractive indices. Thin flakes (thickness ca. 500 nm) of a material with a low refractive index (mica) are coated with a highly refractive metal oxide (e.g., TiO2, layer thickness ca. 50-150 nm). This results in particles with four interfaces. More complex multilayer pigments containing additional thin (e.g., light absorbing) films have also been produced and can be found in OEM paints.4
Interference (pearlescent or luster) pigments split white light into two complementary colors that depend on the platelet thickness. The interference color dominates under maximum reflection (face angle). The transmitted part dominates at other viewing angles under diffuse viewing conditions provided there is a white (non absorbing) or reflecting background. Variation between face angle and grazing angle for incident rays therefore produces a sharp gloss peak and a color change between two extreme complementary colors (color flop).
Against a black background or in a blend with carbon black (a frequent situation in the basecoats of two-coat paint systems), the transmitted light is absorbed and the reflected interference color is seen as the mass tone of the material. In combination with absorption pigments two-tone effects can be achieved if the absorption color differs from the interference color. The optical impression of plate-like pigments with diameters of more then five microns can be described by the Fresnel equation.
Pearl based paints don't use plastic... they used metal of varying thickness and refractive qualities as small flakes added to the paint.
http://www.pcimag.com/CDA/ArticleInf...,76212,00.html
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Most interference (pearlescent or luster) pigments now consist of at least three layers of two materials with different refractive indices. Thin flakes (thickness ca. 500 nm) of a material with a low refractive index (mica) are coated with a highly refractive metal oxide (e.g., TiO2, layer thickness ca. 50-150 nm). This results in particles with four interfaces. More complex multilayer pigments containing additional thin (e.g., light absorbing) films have also been produced and can be found in OEM paints.4
Interference (pearlescent or luster) pigments split white light into two complementary colors that depend on the platelet thickness. The interference color dominates under maximum reflection (face angle). The transmitted part dominates at other viewing angles under diffuse viewing conditions provided there is a white (non absorbing) or reflecting background. Variation between face angle and grazing angle for incident rays therefore produces a sharp gloss peak and a color change between two extreme complementary colors (color flop).
Against a black background or in a blend with carbon black (a frequent situation in the basecoats of two-coat paint systems), the transmitted light is absorbed and the reflected interference color is seen as the mass tone of the material. In combination with absorption pigments two-tone effects can be achieved if the absorption color differs from the interference color. The optical impression of plate-like pigments with diameters of more then five microns can be described by the Fresnel equation.
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