86IROC305

I just bought this 92 Z from a friend that owns a body shop for $700. He said he could fix it for me for $1000... My main concern is that if I did get it fixed, Would it ever be the same? Im worried the body may have more flex afterwards, etc There was no damage to the frame.. all the damage is shown in the pics except for maybe the windshield pillar which was pushed in about 1/2 inch..... Is it worth fixing or should I just use it for parts?

-Joe

PS: I have all the parts to fix it allready, ie: door, ttops, windshield and new dash.

86IROC305

Heres another pic..

Steve89GTA

bnoon

If someone did the work themselves in an auto body shop it could be worth it. Paying someone to do the work you'll EASILY go way over what the car could be worth to repair it. That thing looks REALLY far gone...

86IROC305

Hehe... I know it looks bad... but it was a immaculate 1 owner car before it got wrecked... Id just hate to part it out if its salvagable )

Ive allready got a estimate from my friend that owns the body shop... around $1000 complete.

john8169

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I dont think so, unless you just want it to be a race car. It will never be exactly same. I just had a 1991 1LE Z28 5-sp. with minimal wear @ 55,000 miles, I was at a stop light and was hit hard. So, I rear clipped it, whole new rear piece of another car.
Excellent job but.....
I really wish I hadnt, the cost of having it done is more than geting another body of any syle camaro and make it what you want. It will never be the same so, save what you need .
I gutted the interior including doors, no windows, carpet etc. glass hood and hatch. soon heater and stuff under dash. Only keep the center console. The car runs and drives great but I know. So now it will be a true 1LE but, no one would ever want it after being wrecked.

CamaroMike

No offense but if you fix and drive that you are out of your d@mn mind! I don't think $10,000 could fix that car properly.

85SportCoupeto89RS

It can be fixed, some good ole elbow grease, time and effort and it will be done. Just make sure to get him to sign something stating that he is going to do the repairs for 1000.00.

Sickness91Z28

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Is this for real...or a joke? That car...is...un- fixable.....parts...sure....not drivable....yeah..I agree...I don't think $10,000 could even fix that.....that thing is SHOT!@!@#!

89cmrodriver

looks to me inside u might need a bit more than a dash pad...but thats my2 cents, maybe get a second opinion...lol

Big Jon

the cowl looks pretty scary, since it is missing a huge part of it right now. The cowl is the most important part of the structure on a t-top car.
BTW, if you really want a white 92 Z, I will sell you mine for $6500....

Camar92

my brothers (OneBinky) 2 out of 4 camaro was a 1985 z28 305 TPI Auto. The kid that had before him was brake torquing in the kids neighborhood and his foot got stuck on gas and under brake, running into an alluminum pole. Screwed up the hole front and frame. Bought it for $600. Got frame aligned for $1400, bought front clip for $300, rims for $800, and paint for $400. This was a very nice car, but unfourtintly sold it to his girlfriend. here is a picture. Mine is the farthest back, then the 1985 z28, and the closest is my other brothers 1991 ws6.

CrazyHawaiian

Assuming everything else is good (motor/tranny/etc) I would part it out. I paid $700 for a L98 out of a 90 IROC so I think you could easily make a profit.

amish_Z28

I don't know if you could fix it, but is the chin spoiler in good shape, no cracks etc.... Because if it is I want it and how much would you sell it to me for?


----> natedogg543@***.net ----->If you buy it and decide to part it out I really need a chin spoiler, the one I have is pretty much beyond repair.

Mathius

I was quoted 5 grand just to reweld the front pillars, now that was a dealer price, not a body shop, but still, $1000.00 seems like a scam, unless you know the guy personally or something.

Mathius

MdFormula350

if it was me i would just part it out...

GreenRS

I would be the first to say save every third gen on the road. BUT, that car is wasted by looks of the pics. You could make enough off the rims and powertrain alone to put towards another one, not counting all the other stuff you could sell.

Steve89GTA

Can you tell us what the hell happened to that poor car? And do you have any more pics?

86IROC305

The orginal owner was a neighbor to my friend that owns the body shop. The car didnt even have a scratch on it before it was wrecked. I was told that he ran a red light and got T-boned w/ only liablility insurance... the car had been sitting next door to him for about 6 months, wrecked before my friends son convinced him into buying it off him. He had done most of the body work and pulled everything back out... as well as cutting out the wreck portion behind drivers side fender.. I have all the parts to fix it, including pieces from a donor car to be welded. His son had lost interest in fixing in and moved onto doing something else... car was taking up room in his shop and had been there for at least 9 months.

The main reason I bought it was that it would be a great parts car... everything works and has a rebuilt tranny with less than 10k on it ( I have records on the car for every service done since 200miles) When I was told that he could fix it I was really interested... Im not much of a body person and was amazed that it was possible. I've seen some of the other pictures he had of cars he fixed and really started to consider fixing it... but then came the concerns that it would never "be right" again.. thats why I wanted some outside opinions on it from people who have done something like this before or know alot more about collision repair than me I'd really hate to part it out if it is salvageable... it'd be a bad *** ride...

Heres some more pic's:

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another one:

86IROC305

As soon as I get my digital camera back from my friend ill get some more pics.

BLACK91TA

Does it have a salvage title? If it does part it out, if you were to fix it and sell it, you'd NEVER get your money back out of it. I honestly believe that any unibody car thats been wrecked hard will never be the same after it's fixed.....

If the guy can fix it for a grand, and it's not a total hack job, I say go for it, cause thats hella cheap. you'd only have $1700 in it, and if you didn't like it you could sell it and definatley get more than what you have in it, if it has a clear title.

86IROC305

No, it has a clear title thats another reason that I thought about fixing it up.

85SportCoupeto89RS

Good luck with your new project. I envy you sooo much for such a good find, even if the damage cant be fixed you have a great motor and tranny to implant and the 91-92 rims. I'd love to find a 87-90 T'top IROC in desperate need of restoration.

86IROC305

Thanks.. Im still weighting out my options... gonna keep a lookout for a good donor car too.

amish_Z28

That could be a sweet car. But like I said earlier if you decide not to fix it up and part it out I would be VERY interested in the front GFX peice. But if not good luck on the project. I would insist that whoever fixes it is very thorough or else it will never be the same, and will not be worth your time or money.

SLOWFIVEOH

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My car was run into a ditch @ 100 mph by the previous owner and parked in a barn for 3 years. I bought the car for $200. Included in the deal was a used nose and fender. I straightened out the hood, aligned the car myself (still need to get it aligned) Replaced nose and fender. Cut away the wrecked up battery box, and made a headlight bucket from an oldsmobile. I also replaced the rear hatch. So far I have about $600 in the car including the price of it. Its my daily driver and everyone that saw what it looked like before can't beleive its the same car. Other then the rear axel being bent about 1/16 of an inch, you can hardly tell its been wrecked.

84TAProject

I applaud you for taking up the cause of a nearly dead F body. It looks to me like just the dash and the door areas are messed up, but I dont know much. You almost out to better off parting it out and getting a nice early 80's carbed f-body. They are dirt cheap (I paid $250 for my trans am, which was intact, just had some minor body damage and a bullet holed window, and ran with a timing chain) and I swapped in a 350. You could get an older one and swap in the drivetrain from that Z. It'd be pretty cool and unique to have a TPI in like an 83 f-body. Knowing me though, Id keep the newer Z and fix it, but I have problems with getting rid of cars when I need to.

BOTTLEDZ28

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Ive worked in a body shop for 3 years and have done some serious frame fixing on cars and I must say that time and the proper work can get the car right again. I cut the whole rear clip of a new Z24 and and replaced it with a new one and the end result was a perefect fit. You first have to deternime if the frame is bent. The frame doesnt have to be hit to be bent. You will need to have it measured at a body shop with the proper measuring tool and the spec book. What kind of accident was this car in? Was the A piller pushed in? Was the floor pushed in. If so then pull the carpet and look for wrinkles in the floor. the worst thing to fix would be the door post. It has to be perfect for all the body panels to fit right. if its off just 1/8" then your screwed. Give me more details on the crash and take a few more pic of the post. take good clear pics please and dont make them so big when attaching them.

@ZZKKER

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anything can be fixed, and i mean anything. i could fix it for less than a 1000, just cost of parts because i have acces to a frame machine

mine is worse and i am fixing it. my 87 that hit a light pole
enjoy

thanks
anthony

86IROC305

Ouch

I'll get my digital camara back from my friend and take some better pictures... these are the only ones i had taken so far... Ill try to post them tommorow.

@ZZKKER

iTrader: (1)

oh and as far as it being right, as long as everything lines up (body lines) you will be allright since the frame was not damaged. and as for the flexing, if it worries you, put sub frame connectors on there like there should have been from factory.

flex is a problem i will have with my 87 becase the floor is bent as is the roof, so a roll cage and subframe connectors is manditory. with those, it will be just as good as any other 3rd gen with the same mods.



thanks
anthony

Redarrow1

As Joe Dirt would say... "That sht'll buff out." Seriously though, I had my doubts til I saw your other pics. I question the 1000 your friend is gonna charge you though, He could fix it himself and make money out of the deal.

XThree

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nah... fbodies are so hard to straighten out.

just sell me the 145 speedo for 25 bucks then part out the rest of it .

85SportCoupeto89RS

that's why you get the friend to sign a paper stating he will do the job for 1grand

Sitting Bull

If he is going to do it for the cost of parts (which is what it sounds like) and he is an EXCELLENT bodyman, then go for it.

86IROC305

No... I have all the parts... it would be all labor.

Sitting Bull

A good bodyman can straighten almost anything. It is the frame (or actually subframes) that is critical. If he can straighten that properly and have the wheels align properly, then you might have a good car for cheap!

@ZZKKER

iTrader: (1)

yea since you do have all the parts, and he will do the fix only charging you 1000 labor, that is very resonble. the going rate on body work is usually between 42-50 an hour, and believe me, there will be a lot of time involved in that. my red iroc abouve is going to have an estimated 80 hours of work to get it right. thaks goodnes for the keys to the shop and closed weekends

good luck
anthony

86IROC305

Finally got some my camera back and took some more pics.. I should have it fixed in about 2 weeks )

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Another...

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Another....

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heres a side pic of the windshield bar....

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Most of the impact area...

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A small shot of the underside...

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The good side

86IROC305

Hehe I know thats alot of pics... but I just wanted to give you a good idea of the damage and get some accurate responces )

hotrod87camaro

if you can get it fixed for that much, then it would be worth it, who cares if it's "the same" you will still have a nice camaro for cheap.

Black84Z28

Man, I wouldn't even screw with that. It'd be easier to straighten out a damn coat hanger. Good 3rdgen shells are a dime a dozen. Just get you one and swap everything over from that 92.

collin0825

i'm new to here, but here's my 2 cents. I've been in the collision repair business for 10 years and have seen a lot worst and fix to factory specs. the cowl panel and dash mounts is your biggest problems. They haven't been repaired yet and somebody already put on the new hinge post. Every thing must be straightened first, before replacement parts can go on. Get that fixed and you should be alright.It doesn't matter if you have a full framed car or a unibody, with the right technition it can be fixed to factory conditions...And for 1700$$ You will have a hell of a ride. If you dont like the way it turns out ----Sell It and turn a profit.