Kandied91z

iTrader: (7)

how many of you prefer the look of a clean and new headliner over the bare metal of our stock hoods???

87WS6

iTrader: (1)

Ok this makes no sense to me. What are you talking about? Are you talking about buying a headliner vs. a hood insulation pad or a different hood? Can't give any information when I don't understand the statement or question man.

CAR Motorsports

I'm not sure what he's talking about either, but CAR Motorsports sells GM Licensed Embroidered Hood Insulator Pads for third gen cars. Your choice of any GM logo. Very nice improvement over stock and no worries about hood paint getting cooked by the motor's heat.

Alan
CAR Motorsports

CAR Motorsports

I'm not sure what he's talking about either, but CAR Motorsports sells GM Licensed Embroidered Hood Insulator Pads for third gen cars. Your choice of any GM logo. Very nice improvement over stock and no worries about hood paint getting cooked by the motor's heat. I've included a 4th Gen Pic.



Alan
CAR Motorsports

Kandied91z

iTrader: (7)

pretty straight forward to me....

i can see how you would associate the headliner with the interior....but on my gm box it says 1 gm headliner(hood).

just figured that with the picture of the car it would help to illustrate what i was talking about.

how many of you like a nice clean bare metal hood without headliner and how many like the headliner when it's new and in good shape.....

sorry didn't think it was that complicated....

CAR Motorsports

Headliner is the stuff INSIDE the car. Hood Liner or Insualtor pad is what's under the hood.

Just confusion over term use.

Alan

Kandied91z

iTrader: (7)

see your point alan...that's why i added that....i should have put the hood part in.

just copied the description right off the box without putting any thought to the fact someone may think i was talking about the interior.

FLYNLOW92rs

iTrader: (53)

That paint looks too good to be covered with some black pad to me....???

fast83camaro

If you don't have any engine fies it'll be ok without a insulating pad, otherwise the fire would melt the paint on your hood!

FLYNLOW92rs

iTrader: (53)

If you are getting a insulator because of engine fires....

That insulator is the least of your problems.....

Makaveli

im sure you go into car shows with that car... how could you not? lol anyway... that hood is beggin for the velcro-on mirror inlays to use at car shows... not no freakin hood liner lol looks so clean... so perfect...


:lala:

uk89camaro

Kandied,
That is a superb hood. Think I'll do the same.

Kandied91z

iTrader: (7)

many thanks............

MetalliCamaroRS

iTrader: (15)

I like the look without the insulator better, but only if the hood is in as good of condition as yours.

FLYNLOW92rs

iTrader: (53)

I would look into some of those mirrors for shows.....

9OFirebirdV6

i think the subject of this topic shoulda been...."like how nice my underhood is arent you jealous"? but yeah thats nice i wouldnt cover it.. ;-)

MdFormula350

i think your car looks great with out it on..

i have mine on because its already on , and i dont plan on painting it any time soon..

Kandied91z

iTrader: (7)

you guys should know me somewhat by now........i'm not looking to make people jealous...i'm just considering opinions from fellow thirdgen lovers. afterall it's the input from alot of you guys that keeps my car looking nice!

i've tried to cut mirrored plexiglass, but the contours are to hard it would take weeks......and i don't want to put just a solid piece up there. any ideas???

uk89camaro

kandied,

Is your washer bottle really tinted with coloured water, or is it a light reflection? If it's coloured water you are just plain mad.

86IROCNJ

I have seen washer fluid that color! I don't think it is dyed water, that would be mad. I like the look of just paint. I did my engine bay last weekend and the gun o got had like no overspray! I still have over a 1/2 a pint of paint left over and i was seriously thinking of doing my cowl hood! I like the look.

Makaveli

it would be sweet if u could cut out two pieces of mirror glass to fit in the z28 scoop indentations, and leave the rest the way it is, might be too much work for two much of a small area though... just a suggestion, since it would be easier than all those lil pieces lol

Kandied91z

iTrader: (7)

yes i dyed the water.............

:lala:

jk, it's just red rainx..........i was lucky enough to find some when they still made it and i put it in the new bottles; thought it added a nice touch!

as far as putting just the two i had thought about that except i didn't want people to think i was trying to emulate a JL audio signature or Atari....that and i just didn't think it looked quite right. good idea though....alot easier than trying to fill every little indentation.

if anyone else has any ideas on the material or how to do it please let me know. so far i've only found mirrored plexiglass and the stuff is extremely hard to work with.

86IROCNJ

Kandied, I have a couple of other questions. There was a thread to get info on that intake you have, well i do not think anything came of it. Where would i get one like it? Weren't you selling it a while back too? Not too sure. Also, the plastic piece that covers the stock place for the intake, is that from a carb car? I could just order that from a dealer right? Do you have a name for it? Any info would be great! Thanks

Makaveli

thats something that i would have never noticed until you mentioned that, the jl audio or atari thing LOL nice thought, im stumped for ideas besides leaving it shinny red painted

Kandied91z

iTrader: (7)

yeah i'm selling the intake........looking to get about 175 since i have 300 into it and i can no longer use it i don't mind loosing some to get rid of it. now if you wanted the K&N and the rubber connecting then 200 since those parts are 65 for both putting the cost of everything right around 375.

as far as making it, not hard.........just use some tubing, bend to fit and weld........grind and weld until it looks like a solid tube and then either paint or coat it like i did.

as far as the plastic piece.........i couldn't tell you the part off hand. but it is off of carbed models as well as the 4 cyl. maybe take the picture into the dealer to help...it's been such awhile for me. not hard to find and only cost me around 10.

let me know if there's anything else.

dirtybird

I got my hood repainted.......oh but the underneath didn't get painted so its purple underneath...... oh yea and i have the hood shock special..........Vise grips Yes i am very embarrassed by both. So feel free to laugh and call me names, like purple hood man..............ok or not

scott's85T/A

the plastic insert that you asked about,that is covering the area where the filters sit on the T.P.I cars, came stock on my '82 carbed camaro. You should be able to get one easy enough.

86IROCNJ

Thanks guys! I am pretty sure i could find that cover for cheap, either through the dealer or a junk yard. As far as the intake Kandied, why are you selling it? S/C possibly? j/k Right now i am messing with a few ideas for an intake. Not too sure though. Thanks again-Bryan

FLYNLOW92rs

iTrader: (53)

Maybe you could get a nice new black insulator pad and somehow make a big red bowtie to put on the pad.....

Otherwise just leave it, the paint looks good..

5SIZ

Jebus! That is the shiniest hood I have ever seen!

Kandied91z

iTrader: (7)

just doing a different design; something new to do....thanks for the compliments.

CaysE

Just want to let you know:

The hoodliner pad is to keep the paint on your hood from getting faded and peeling in a couple years. If you drive the car any decent amount of time during the week (like a daily) or you race the car, that hood won't stay shiny for long. Your hood DOES look awesome, so I'd recommend something like the LS1 pad... something custom cut with a logo or something. You'll be happier in a few years when the hood still looks like it does now.

Kandied91z

iTrader: (7)

now i assume your talking about the underside of the hood??

which case it wouldn't matter because if i cover it up i'll never seen it anyway and it's a hassle to pull it off and on everytime you do a show...even though i suppose it is possible. i purchased a new liner when i painted the car to replace the old worn out one......but since it did look so nice i just left it off.

i have had it off since i painted the car over 3 years ago and when i clean it it looks like that..........i've put roughly 30,000 on the paint so i'm not to worried i guess. since it's just laying around i figured i'd wait til the paint did begin to fade and then i would use it......

my original idea was to put mirrors up for shows; but this has become rather hard to figure out how to do...so now i'm torn. this is more or less do you think they look better with a nice new hoodliner or without?

thanks for all the input though guys as it's greatly appreciated!

spike1856

No, they were referring to the paint on the top of the hood. The liner on the underside is to absorb some of the heat so that the visible paint (on the outside) isn't exposed to as much heat and stays in better condition. Of course, if you've gone for three years without the paint on the outside getting very damaged, I'd say it's perfectly fine to keep driving without the liner And if the paints starts to get messed up soon, oh well--you got enough life out of the paint job, right?

Kandied91z

iTrader: (7)

3 years and a 5 figure budget on the job............mmm nope ask me in another 3 or 4 years and then i might agree.

i've heard alot of people claim that it will mess up the paint yet i see so many that are fine??? i suppose if i was truly worried i might do it, i might do it anyway since i bothered to buy one....but so far i seem to be rather fortunate; if anything i think the sun itself is more the cause of it and since it rarely sees an extended sun bath it looks the same as the day i brought her home.... well almost.

johnnyformula

great idea with those hood insulator pads. does CAR Motorsports have a website?

CAR Motorsports

Our website is www.carmotorsports.com. You will not see pictures of our new hoodliners just yet as we are working on retaking them. Any of the embroidery that you see for our mats can be done for our hoodliners, including special text. Embroidery size is 13 inches wide by 7 inches tall. EXACT duplicates of your GM logos and emblems.

Below is a pic of our previous TTA embroidered 3rd Generation hood liner. Our current one's are FAR nicer and better.



Alan

FyreLance

Ouch.

I can never see myself spending that much on paint....

looks good though

LT1guy

iTrader: (1)

Heat from the engine shouldn't hurt the paint on the interior or exterior of the hood; automotive paints are far tougher than that. I have painted engine blocks with automotive urethane, and it still looks good years later, I can't imagine it would have harmful effects on the hood paint. BTW lots of late model cars don't have hood pads...I know my 97 SS didn't come with one (maybe because its a composite hood, who knows?).

Kandied, it sounds like you just need the proper tools to cut the plexi...Shannon and I are looking into that now. We'll let you know what we come up with.

Kandied91z

iTrader: (7)

i need the tools as well as a solid way to make a "mold" of the area.......i've tried everything from cutouts to "putty" type ideas with no luck...it's hard because the areas are actually slanted so it makes it difficult to get a standard pattern for everything.

let me know what you find out.

Kandied91z

iTrader: (7)

FyreLance, that's not that much if you ever see some really custom paintjobs........

here's a line up of some other cars from the shop........people called it "the million dollar line up".

there's over 50,000 in paint between the three alone. people would come up and comment to us because they were parked "red,white & blue" and we didn't even think of it. also, each one has a sweet power adder.....N20, Blower, Turbo! quite a fun time.

TorchRay

cant seem to find either the logos that go on the hood insulaters....or the insulaters themselves.....anyone give me a hand on finding them??

LT1guy

iTrader: (1)

Kandied, Shannon cut out patterns by hand to fit the openings of her hood, which was a very tedious process. One of the guys in our club just bought a laminate cutter, and I just got a bench mounted belt/disc sander combo, so we'll be doing some experimenting soon. I found a local source for red mirrored 1/8 plexi, and its only about $110 for a 4x8 sheet....more than enough to do a hood, esp a Ram Air 1 style like hers. It'll probably be our next major project.

Kandied91z

iTrader: (7)

did i read that right.......108 for a 4x8............i hope that is 4' by 8'

if so that isn't to bad at all....... i paid $17 for a 2'x4' of plain mirrored.

i found that it was possible...but, i refused to spend a solid day or two for a job that shouldn't take more than a few hours. if you find a procedure that works well please let me know.

LT1guy

iTrader: (1)

Thats 4 feet by 8 feet...plenty to do several hoods. We'll let you know how it works out, we'll probably get started on it in a couple weeks.

CAR Motorsports

The insulators are so new, they have not been added yet. The logos we offer are the same as on our Floor mats and other embroidered products. To see the logos, click on the floor mats link, and then the Pontiac emblem link. Here's the URL for the logos. Our hood insulators are specially designed with many features.

Thanks,

Alan

http://www.carmotorsports.com/pontiacfm.htm