for those who wanted to see the 4th gen gauges working in my iroc
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for those who wanted to see the 4th gen gauges working in my iroc
i put em in with my 4th gen dash. my intake/heads are off for the cam/head port/LT1 intake mods in doing, but you notice in the two pictures one is with key off, one with key on.
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the tach and speedo needles have jumped up in this pic when the key is turned on. volts gauge is reading right, no oil pressure, gas tank is empty drained for pump swap, so the reading on that is correct, and the temp gauge is below 160, so reading is right on that too for a cold engine.
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You oughta take a sh!tload of pix because you just know that right now this topic may not be hot, give it a month and everyone will be asking for directions...
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do the stock wiring harnesses mount up or did you have to replace all of them with the ones from 4th gen? also, does the 4th gen dash use the same mounting points as our 3rd gens? Any noticeable gaps anywhere. what about the A pillars? Using 3rd or 4th gen? Do u have pics of the entire dash installed? Please post pics! I am strongly considering the switch!!
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That does look pretty sweet.
I second the tech article and more pictures especially a little further back.
Now some white faced guages and a new steering wheel might be the next project on the dash. but just a suggestion.:hail: :hail:
I second the tech article and more pictures especially a little further back.
Now some white faced guages and a new steering wheel might be the next project on the dash. but just a suggestion.:hail: :hail:
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someone needs to make this a tech article
the VSS has two wires comming off it. one signal, one ground. (both wires will serve as either) attatch one wire of the vss to a ground point, and put the other wire in the signal port on the dakota digital speedo cal box. then on like output two, run a wire from there to the green / white stripe wire on your cluster harness. dakota digital box has to be ground and 12V+ so wire accordingly there.
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Looks nice, but you shoulda gotten the 155 MPH one.
Looks nice, but you shoulda gotten the 155 MPH one.
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Car: 1992 RS
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I cant wait to do my 4th gen dash swap! Once you get that 150mph speedo in there, you should pick this up:
Buy it now for $45 on eBay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=1847569910
Buy it now for $45 on eBay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=1847569910
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Originally posted by 2vmodular
don't be suprised if you have to change the senders for the coolant temp & oil pressure to get the guages working properly.
don't be suprised if you have to change the senders for the coolant temp & oil pressure to get the guages working properly.
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ve had the car running up to operating temps with the old intake before it was removed, gauges worked just fine like they were supposed to. no problems at all
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Car: 89 Irocz
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Instead of getting the 150mph dash you should get the 200mph I seen it in a newer super chevy mag. They are like direct replacements. But they are for 97 and up F-bodys, oh they're by www.GranatelliMotorSports.com that what the ad says. I m not sure what year you yanked it out of though, but a 200 speedo would rock, sure would be fun to test it out too
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Originally posted by u r sofa king we tah did
i am, but im using the free one i got until i get me one.
i am, but im using the free one i got until i get me one.
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hmmm
The Steering wheel Column doesnt line up with the dash?
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I've never seen em for anything but 4th Gen LT1 Camaros, but then again, I've never looked for other types. I dont recall seeing a 3rd gen set. Search eBay, I'm sure you'll find something.
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What about the odometer? It's in a different place. Do you have the correct mileage on the odometer? Is it from your car or is it the one from the 4th gen? If it's from the 4th, how did you get the right mileage?
Forgive my ignorance but I'm not sure how that exactly works.
Forgive my ignorance but I'm not sure how that exactly works.
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This is what you do when switching to a new speedo
The law requires that you set the odometer to where it originaly is,
OR
Set the new ODometer to zero and put a sticker in the drivers side door jam saying that the speedo was changed at xx,xxx miles.
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Set the new ODometer to zero and put a sticker in the drivers side door jam saying that the speedo was changed at xx,xxx miles.
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Re: This is what you do when switching to a new speedo
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The law requires that you set the odometer to where it originaly is,
OR
Set the new ODometer to zero and put a sticker in the drivers side door jam saying that the speedo was changed at xx,xxx miles.
The law requires that you set the odometer to where it originaly is,
OR
Set the new ODometer to zero and put a sticker in the drivers side door jam saying that the speedo was changed at xx,xxx miles.
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The law? lol
I'm sure he'll never sell his car, so I don't really think it'll matter much.
The law? lol
I'm sure he'll never sell his car, so I don't really think it'll matter much.
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Originally posted by pennylessz28
i get 5 - 10 emails a day about white face guages, i wonder how many eh'll be getting a day?
i get 5 - 10 emails a day about white face guages, i wonder how many eh'll be getting a day?
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Car: 83 Camaro Z28
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I am assuming that I will have a little more work to do to get a 4th gen instrument cluster working in my car if/when I get the dash in because I have an '83. What year is yours? What changes will be needed to get the cluster to work in mine?
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Car: 90 irocz
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Re: someone needs to make this a tech article
Originally posted by u r sofa king we tah did
the VSS has two wires comming off it. one signal, one ground. (both wires will serve as either) attatch one wire of the vss to a ground point, and put the other wire in the signal port on the dakota digital speedo cal box. then on like output two, run a wire from there to the green / white stripe wire on your cluster harness. dakota digital box has to be ground and 12V+ so wire accordingly there.
the VSS has two wires comming off it. one signal, one ground. (both wires will serve as either) attatch one wire of the vss to a ground point, and put the other wire in the signal port on the dakota digital speedo cal box. then on like output two, run a wire from there to the green / white stripe wire on your cluster harness. dakota digital box has to be ground and 12V+ so wire accordingly there.
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Car: 90 irocz
Engine: 350tip
Transmission: 700r4
Well the 98 cluster i have for my swap in porgress is slightly different, in fact some of the colors are different and i cant seem to find a definite whats what but here are the wires on the 98 cluster harness i have now:
Dark green
Dark Green/whitestripe
thin light green
Thick light green (that has another light green thick wire spliced about 1 1/2 inches up the harness
thick black
black/white stripe
red
2x pink
2x blue
blue/white stripe
light blue/white stripe
orange
2x white
thick brown
thin brown
2x thin brown/white stripe
light tan
light tan/whitestripe
Yellow/Black stripe
2x purple/white stripe
Ive asked for help on ls1.com but nobody has responded besides myself.....youd figure one of them knows or has a wiring diagram since its thier car..........
Dark green
Dark Green/whitestripe
thin light green
Thick light green (that has another light green thick wire spliced about 1 1/2 inches up the harness
thick black
black/white stripe
red
2x pink
2x blue
blue/white stripe
light blue/white stripe
orange
2x white
thick brown
thin brown
2x thin brown/white stripe
light tan
light tan/whitestripe
Yellow/Black stripe
2x purple/white stripe
Ive asked for help on ls1.com but nobody has responded besides myself.....youd figure one of them knows or has a wiring diagram since its thier car..........
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Car: 90 irocz
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Dunno about that, seesm to me its more popular to have a 4th gen then a thirdgen, either way i made a post here about my findings on gm's tech site, answered all my questions, and if need be i can look up the wiring diagram for any other 4th gen....acess to gm is a great tool sometimes!
https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=152340
https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=152340
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Car: 91 Camaro RS
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while fourth gens are popular for the go fast stock don't modify a thing crowd I prefer the third gen like the way it looks better. milage, model year, sticker price, number of cupholders all that **** means nothing to me when I was little the thirdgens were new and all the rage I told myself that I would own one someday I wouldn't trade it for a thing in the world not even an ls1 6-speed new maro i love the thirdgen so much more its a cult following thing you got it or you don't
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Car: 90 irocz
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Transmission: 700r4
Originally posted by harry's91rs
I like the dash. This would definitly be a good tech article.
I like the dash. This would definitly be a good tech article.
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I think the solution here would be to purchase the chiltons manual for the year car the guage cluster came off. Then compare the wiring diagram from the 4th gen manual to the 3rd gen one and start crimping. Thats how I plan to do mine when I do the swap (just to make sure I do it right).
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Car: 90 irocz
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Originally posted by CrazyHawaiian
I think the solution here would be to purchase the chiltons manual for the year car the guage cluster came off. Then compare the wiring diagram from the 4th gen manual to the 3rd gen one and start crimping. Thats how I plan to do mine when I do the swap (just to make sure I do it right).
I think the solution here would be to purchase the chiltons manual for the year car the guage cluster came off. Then compare the wiring diagram from the 4th gen manual to the 3rd gen one and start crimping. Thats how I plan to do mine when I do the swap (just to make sure I do it right).
Gm pulled through though! Liek i said, if anybody needs any other yr or is wonderign, i can look it up or send you a copy of the page via aim or email.
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I have in my hand the connector that plugs into the 4th gen cluster. I was matching up the colors to the diagram listed above and for some reason, some things dont match up. first, is there going to be a lot of wires left unconnected on the 4th gen plug, second, red wire on the 3rd gen dash needs to be splied into the pink/black wire. I do not have a pink/black wire. This would be a pink wire with a black stripe right.what have you guys come up with that did this already. also what about the other switches like the headlights and heater. These are the wires I have
4th gen cluster plug:
pink
pink
brown/white stripe
dk green
tan
tan/white stripe
grey
grey
dk blue
dk blue
lt green
red
brown
green/white strip
yellow
white
white(slightly bigger gauge)
purple/white stripe
lt blue
lt green(bigger gauge)
black(bigger gauge)
brown(bigger gauge)
black/white stripe
purple
orange(bigger gauge)
yellow/black stripe
4th gen cluster plug:
pink
pink
brown/white stripe
dk green
tan
tan/white stripe
grey
grey
dk blue
dk blue
lt green
red
brown
green/white strip
yellow
white
white(slightly bigger gauge)
purple/white stripe
lt blue
lt green(bigger gauge)
black(bigger gauge)
brown(bigger gauge)
black/white stripe
purple
orange(bigger gauge)
yellow/black stripe