u r sofa king we tah did

i put em in with my 4th gen dash. my intake/heads are off for the cam/head port/LT1 intake mods in doing, but you notice in the two pictures one is with key off, one with key on.

u r sofa king we tah did

the tach and speedo needles have jumped up in this pic when the key is turned on. volts gauge is reading right, no oil pressure, gas tank is empty drained for pump swap, so the reading on that is correct, and the temp gauge is below 160, so reading is right on that too for a cold engine.

u r sofa king we tah did

btw, my dash is half pulled apart right now, if you have questions on mounting the new dash or wiring 4th gen gauges in, now is the time to ask.

scauffiel

You oughta take a sh!tload of pix because you just know that right now this topic may not be hot, give it a month and everyone will be asking for directions...

S.

Cuno

do the stock wiring harnesses mount up or did you have to replace all of them with the ones from 4th gen? also, does the 4th gen dash use the same mounting points as our 3rd gens? Any noticeable gaps anywhere. what about the A pillars? Using 3rd or 4th gen? Do u have pics of the entire dash installed? Please post pics! I am strongly considering the switch!!

igotslicksNchix

thirdgen steering wheel has got to go. nice job, i'm proud

MetalliCamaroRS

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Looks nice, but you shoulda gotten the 155 MPH one.

Iroc87

May I suggest a tech article

CrazyHawaiian

u r sofa king we tah did, you are the man. looks sweet!! nice job!!

Corbi_85-IROC

That does look pretty sweet.

I second the tech article and more pictures especially a little further back.

Now some white faced guages and a new steering wheel might be the next project on the dash. but just a suggestion.:hail: :hail:

u r sofa king we tah did

lemme redo this mometarily its all funked...

rich88gta

You....are....my....HERO!!!!!!!! j/k:lala: Looks good man. I also think a tech article would be cool.

robertg

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I want to see detailed photos

possibly a tech article

u r sofa king we tah did

the VSS has two wires comming off it. one signal, one ground. (both wires will serve as either) attatch one wire of the vss to a ground point, and put the other wire in the signal port on the dakota digital speedo cal box. then on like output two, run a wire from there to the green / white stripe wire on your cluster harness. dakota digital box has to be ground and 12V+ so wire accordingly there.

u r sofa king we tah did

i am, but im using the free one i got until i get me one.

2vmodular

don't be suprised if you have to change the senders for the coolant temp & oil pressure to get the guages working properly.

2vmodular

was at the speed shop today and saw a 200MPH overlay for 4th gen guages. salesman said the cluster electronics needed to be altered to get it working properly though.

Scott_92RS

I cant wait to do my 4th gen dash swap! Once you get that 150mph speedo in there, you should pick this up:

Buy it now for $45 on eBay

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=1847569910

u r sofa king we tah did

nope, they both work just fine. same part number from autozone for CTS for L98 and LT1, same thing on the oil pressure.

u r sofa king we tah did

ve had the car running up to operating temps with the old intake before it was removed, gauges worked just fine like they were supposed to. no problems at all

CrazyHawaiian

Yup the indaglo guages are awesome. When I do my 4th gen interior swap I wanna get the reverse indaglo guages.

dacuma

Instead of getting the 150mph dash you should get the 200mph I seen it in a newer super chevy mag. They are like direct replacements. But they are for 97 and up F-bodys, oh they're by www.GranatelliMotorSports.com that what the ad says. I m not sure what year you yanked it out of though, but a 200 speedo would rock, sure would be fun to test it out too

MetalliCamaroRS

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Also a good plan

mike1986fyrbird

The Steering wheel Column doesnt line up with the dash?

u r sofa king we tah did

dash is temporarily unmounted, like i said before

Dale

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I like them reverse guages, do they make them for 3rd gen as well as s10's

Scott_92RS

I've never seen em for anything but 4th Gen LT1 Camaros, but then again, I've never looked for other types. I dont recall seeing a 3rd gen set. Search eBay, I'm sure you'll find something.

pennylessz28

i get 5 - 10 emails a day about white face guages, i wonder how many eh'll be getting a day?

FyreLance

What about the odometer? It's in a different place. Do you have the correct mileage on the odometer? Is it from your car or is it the one from the 4th gen? If it's from the 4th, how did you get the right mileage?

Forgive my ignorance but I'm not sure how that exactly works.

mike1986fyrbird

The law requires that you set the odometer to where it originaly is,

OR

Set the new ODometer to zero and put a sticker in the drivers side door jam saying that the speedo was changed at xx,xxx miles.

Tonyrodz

The law? lol
I'm sure he'll never sell his car, so I don't really think it'll matter much.

u r sofa king we tah did

wtf. no it doesnt. thats why my title says exempt on the milage part yes the odometer works, no its not set with the cars milage, its the 3rd motor in the cars life so it doesnt really mean much. i remember how many miles are on the engine that is in there now.

u r sofa king we tah did

yep, thats the way i look at it.

u r sofa king we tah did

email is turned off for viewing. have got several pm's though. although i dont respond to the ones that can be answered by reading the post.

Absalom

I am assuming that I will have a little more work to do to get a 4th gen instrument cluster working in my car if/when I get the dash in because I have an '83. What year is yours? What changes will be needed to get the cluster to work in mine?

u r sofa king we tah did

i have an 89. i dont know what the wiring diagrams look like for the 83, youll have to go by them.

omnipotentgoku

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hell yeah.. im all over this one, already looking for a dash

CustomX

Question: Will this work on the 97-up guage cluster wiring harness as well?

omnipotentgoku

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What type of progress have you made on this ?

CustomX

Well the 98 cluster i have for my swap in porgress is slightly different, in fact some of the colors are different and i cant seem to find a definite whats what but here are the wires on the 98 cluster harness i have now:

Dark green
Dark Green/whitestripe
thin light green
Thick light green (that has another light green thick wire spliced about 1 1/2 inches up the harness
thick black
black/white stripe
red
2x pink
2x blue
blue/white stripe
light blue/white stripe
orange
2x white
thick brown
thin brown
2x thin brown/white stripe
light tan
light tan/whitestripe
Yellow/Black stripe
2x purple/white stripe

Ive asked for help on ls1.com but nobody has responded besides myself.....youd figure one of them knows or has a wiring diagram since its thier car..........

omnipotentgoku

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I could be wrong, but for some reason, I am inclined to believe that the following for 4th gens is not a prolific as that for third gens. This is just a personal observation.

CustomX

Dunno about that, seesm to me its more popular to have a 4th gen then a thirdgen, either way i made a post here about my findings on gm's tech site, answered all my questions, and if need be i can look up the wiring diagram for any other 4th gen....acess to gm is a great tool sometimes!

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=152340

badandy247

while fourth gens are popular for the go fast stock don't modify a thing crowd I prefer the third gen like the way it looks better. milage, model year, sticker price, number of cupholders all that **** means nothing to me when I was little the thirdgens were new and all the rage I told myself that I would own one someday I wouldn't trade it for a thing in the world not even an ls1 6-speed new maro i love the thirdgen so much more its a cult following thing you got it or you don't

harry's91rs

I like the dash. This would definitly be a good tech article.

CustomX

It will be, im collecting quit ethe collection of pictures and what not, but it will be posted back at iroczone my home site.

CrazyHawaiian

I think the solution here would be to purchase the chiltons manual for the year car the guage cluster came off. Then compare the wiring diagram from the 4th gen manual to the 3rd gen one and start crimping. Thats how I plan to do mine when I do the swap (just to make sure I do it right).

CustomX

I have a 4th gen chiltons (for working on the ss's) but i quite literally couldnt find the wirrign for the guages for 97-up dash's.
Gm pulled through though! Liek i said, if anybody needs any other yr or is wonderign, i can look it up or send you a copy of the page via aim or email.

LowCamaro

hmm,im very interested!waht did ya do about the heater controlls?

BOTTLEDZ28

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I have in my hand the connector that plugs into the 4th gen cluster. I was matching up the colors to the diagram listed above and for some reason, some things dont match up. first, is there going to be a lot of wires left unconnected on the 4th gen plug, second, red wire on the 3rd gen dash needs to be splied into the pink/black wire. I do not have a pink/black wire. This would be a pink wire with a black stripe right.what have you guys come up with that did this already. also what about the other switches like the headlights and heater. These are the wires I have

4th gen cluster plug:
pink
pink
brown/white stripe
dk green
tan
tan/white stripe
grey
grey
dk blue
dk blue
lt green
red
brown
green/white strip
yellow
white
white(slightly bigger gauge)
purple/white stripe
lt blue
lt green(bigger gauge)
black(bigger gauge)
brown(bigger gauge)
black/white stripe
purple
orange(bigger gauge)
yellow/black stripe

tyty49

u r sofa king we tah did,
your using the 3rd gen a pillers right??