u r sofa king we tah did

hasnt done it. maybe it will be tad harder if you have ac to mess with, but im running the ac delete pulley and ive got the dash mock fitted up up in the car within 30-40 minutes. i had to bang down the side supports welded to the firewall because it interfered with the newer camaro dash vents, dont know if that would be an issue on the bird dash. the rest of the supports you just have to drill small holes in the firewall lip underneath the windshield and attach the mounting screws and your 90% done. pics on the way...

u r sofa king we tah did

the new mount holes drilled in firewall lip

u r sofa king we tah did

dash and 4th gen camaro center console bolted up. trim not attatched yet

u r sofa king we tah did

thats right baby, functional 4th gen gauges...btw, i didnt use any wire to attatch the dash. couldnt figure out why you would??? i used all bolts and just drilled new holes

u r sofa king we tah did

throw me some comments, lemme know what you think. personally i think it looks a billion times better than the original dash with its protruding airplane wing.

u r sofa king we tah did

and yeah yeah, i know, the steering wheel has GOT to go...

CamaroStud1988

i think it looks great man,good job. how much does that cost to do and why dont you write a tech article about it. you seem to know what your doin.,good job

CamaroStud1988

this is mine,kinda blury,but its just temporary...it was all tann.gross

u r sofa king we tah did

hey i like that steering wheel. what kind/how much? my dash cost me 130, pickup local sale.

CamaroStud1988

its just a gt steering wheel, the black paint was flaking so i sanded it down,primed it and painted it black and yellow. and then cleared it.

CD MaroMan 91

very very nice good job

Kj Rockz

I'd like to sse the guages working.

How did you wire them up....

u r sofa king we tah did

took the 4th gen wiring that plugs into the cluster and spliced them in per the wiring diagrams of a 4th gen haynes and a 3rd gen haynes. tranny is a t56 with a dakota digital conversion box. tach is just one wire, a white one that needs to be spliced. gas gauge is a pink one. SES light is either tan or brown with a white stripe, would have to look. coolant temp is green with white stripe. ground and power are their normal colors. speedo was ground and signal into the cluster (cant recall that color wire at the moment, will look up)
edit: something is making me think it was purple...

heres a pic of the connector to the 4th gen gauges.

u r sofa king we tah did

id turn the car on to show you the gauges but theres no intake on it right now. ive taken my tpi off for a moded LT1 intake that im in the process of buying and sending to john this thursday to get fixed for a sbc. i wired the gauges up before the intake was pulled and all worked fine though... but i guarantee you they work, ill show you after i get my LT1

mike1986fyrbird

that looks cool man, maybe i *might* try that, i'm just scared if i take my dash out and if i cant get the 4th gen one to work that i wont be able to fingure out how to put the third gen one back on. lol.

u r sofa king we tah did

i dont think it would matter, my 3rd gen dash desentgrated and busted in a million pieces when i took it out but the new look is

BrokenAngel

Very nice indeed... I was thinking of the same since my dash is all cracked and such... Perhaps a few pointers? I could most likely get the 4th gen dash this weekend..

Is the rest of your interior 4th Gen, or 3rd? I'm wondering how it would look half and half...

Scott_92RS

Is there any way you can take pics of all the mounting points and explain in detail what you had to do for each one? This would make a great tech article if you had a lot of pics. Where did you mount the ECM? I cant wait to do this swap!!

u r sofa king we tah did

if you want help when your doing the swap email me and ask me questions, but i dont think im gonna take the dash off to take pictures now because its already on now. its pretty simple to understand when explained though (atleast it should be) as for the rest of my interior, i have 4th gen t/a leather seats and a 4th gen camaro console, so im all 4th gen interior. i am putting the ecm in the glove box i guess, unless i design some custom mount. i have to custom mount the ALDL. but all in all its 100% worth it all the way.

CD MaroMan 91

now that u have the dash in... are you gonna try the door panels? if you can do that... you are officially my new hero... but for now... it's jim
:hail:

REVLIMIT

wow very very nice. I would do that but I'm keeping my a/c and well...alittle to lazy to do all that custom ****. haha...nice job though.

robertg

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actually, that looks pretty impressive, except i would have to have the 155 speedo from a Z.

is your dash from a camaro, or firebird, and are they identical?


that is pretty sweet, i'd like to get a detailed write up about it

BadBird84

I have an 85 mph speedo, if I put in a fourth gen dash and guages, could I have a higher mph speedo, would it work? Thanks

Bill Krumel

How did you get the vents to line up?? did you have to remove all the 3rd gen ac vent stuff in the back and use 4th gen?

u r sofa king we tah did

thats a camaro dash, says so in the first post. bird and camaro dashes are different styles. and the gauge cluster was free so i used it....

u r sofa king we tah did

if you have cable speedo, not without converting to VSS somehow. otherwise if you already have VSS then you would need the dakota digital box.

u r sofa king we tah did

heater hoses and zip ties. you cant even see it. i dont have ac though so its not going to be used much.

REVLIMIT

wow...if its atcually that easy to route the a/c ducts...then hell Imma do the 4th gen dash conversion. cause its way nicer then the 3rd gen dash.

CrazyHawaiian

do it do it!!! I'll help u brah if u need help

Kj Rockz

Ya I'd join in on that one too, just to see how it all goes...

pennylessz28

HE said he was running A/C Delete. Maybe if I get enough cash from the insurance company Iw ill do a 4th gen swap... I dunno...

Test King

Where did the dash speakers go??

pennylessz28

They moved to the door panels, are you installing the 4th gen door panels?

RealDeal

revlimit... the sig picture is awesome. did you animate over one of your pictures? it looks cell shaded, bad ***.

oh! and the console looks really good. i'd love to try it........ someday....... long time from now...... *sniff sniff*

bradkeith

one word BADASS!!!! That looks really good. I am impressed with the integrity of the whole setup. Working gauges, vents all connected, seems like you didn't cut any corners. Great Job

Mutiny32

Oh yeah, try swapping a 4th gen 97+ automatic console in a 3rd gen automatic. thought so. Can't be done. I tried it and I completely shat myself because I found the hard way that it can't be done. EVEN with a 4th gen shifter.

Kj Rockz

IT can be done, but ya gots to relocate the shifter....

Kj Rockz

Like i showed you above, you are wrong...

IROC57TPI

:hail: You are the man Well, almost...until you get the airbags to be functional That would make you the man

I want in on this swap.... if i find a 4th gen dash locally i think i just might have to attempt it. Oh, and I want to keep the A/C too so I guess i'd have a few more hurdles to jump.

Kandied91z

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mike, have you not seen this done before???

why does the dash look so short or almost shallow........i think the idea is great and i love to see the new look; i wouldn't want it in my car but good job all the same.

REVLIMIT

Thanks...Yea its pretty much a semi real photo. It took a **** load of photoshop work to do it. One day I'll make more but now I'm to lazy haha...I tried hard to make it look like that one game Auto Modellista for PS2 which is a racing game using cell shading.

pennylessz28

KEEP US UPDATED WITH MORE PICTURES "u r sofa king we tah did
" WE WANT MORE PICTURES!!

What about those door panels?

stuart69427

doesn't anyone use the search button?

There already is a "tech article". Here it is: http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/clutch/63/

Test King

REALLY?? Thanks for clearing that up. See, I am a peon, and need vastly intelligent individuals such as yourself to inform me of these things. I mean, sure, I own a 94 V6 base level Camaro, and never EVER noticed that there were speakers in the door. I just thought those funny bumps were some sun blisters. (Read into this - there was a reason I used at the end of my statement.)

So, what would the rest of you do if you didn't want to attempt a Door Panel swap? Also, look at the relationship of the depth of the steering column to the edge of the dash - doesn't appear short at all too me Kandied.... that might simply be perspective though?

igotslicksNchix

i likes! i dunno if i'd do it, i like the formulas dash. and revlimit, that sig picture is extremely kick ***, i dunno how you did it, but i must learn.

SUPER CHEVY66

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Wow that looks great now i have to figure out what dash to use the camaro or the trans am one i suppose each one has its difficulties. u r sofa king we tah did i have one question for you do you think a set of 5 inch autometers would fit where that cluster is i sure hope so thanks David W.

u r sofa king we tah did

i dont know if a set of 5 inch autometers would fit, it would be close but might work out. yes im doing the door panels too, im currently looking for some that i like.

u r sofa king we tah did

forget 4th gen door panels, you have to cut them up so bad its not even worth it. you have to cut off part of the speaker mount in the door panel so that would be useless. im just getting kickpanels set up for 5.25s and getting my door panels redone in black leather somehow. i gotta figure out a good way to permenantly mount the window switches

u r sofa king we tah did

more pics of a more completed dash comming a little later today.

Zepher

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What, like this,


I didn't have to cut them up like I did, I just didn't want to move the door handle at the time. It needs to be moved back about 3 inches or so.