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s. coupe into a z28 questions
I got an 85 sport coupe im restoring into a z28. I've been collecting ground effects for it, and I wanted to know if z28's came with ground effects, w/out being an iroc. also, will my berlinetta front clip match the ground effects and z28 refurnishing? Would a z28 decal stripe kit be legit on ground effects? I'm probly gonna paint it a dark metallic blue w/ the metallic blue stripe kit, i nearly have all the body work done, so I kind of gotta know. Any other details I'm missing in making it completely into a z28? Should I pick up a gridded set of rear lights? The more info, the better...
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not to be mean, but you are fixing to get flamed bad when everyone reads this, that or they are all going to ignore your post....making it look different with z28 stuff is one thing, but dont take a sc and try to pass it off as a z man.
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well if i had cash to drop in 350 crate in a decent camaro rather than fix up a sport coupe, i probably wouldn't be collecting parts from boneyards. It's my first restoration of any kind, and on a small budget. may as well make it look decent with what i can afford to do to it. And I may as well put the caps and louvered hood that came with the car to use w/ detials to match it.
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Welp, the front bumper covers are different. You will have to get one either from a Z28 85-up or any camaro 88-92. The GFX panels on the sides are going to need a mounting bracket under the door. You will also need to drill some holes, along with change the rear bumper. IMO I would not try to pass it off as a Z28, rather as what it is, a nice resto-mod SC. You could just do what 85SCto89RS did, and use the "camaro" tags (ala '88 SC) where Z28 would appear. His is a great example of a beautiful SC camaro that has been really well done. It does not have to be a Z28 or IROC to be nice!
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I remember when I first came to this board, I wanted to call my 85 sc an 89 rs since they were the base vehicle. But after being flamed many times upon many times, I did some searching and found out they had an 88 sport coupe that came with gfx's. So now I call my car an 85 Sport coupe with 88sc gfx's. But you'll be in for a big treat drilling holes into your SC, One big thing you need to do is make tempelates of where you need to drill the holes. "I used carboard and put it up on similar locations on the IROC as my SC, then put the holes in the cardboard. Then placed the template onto my SC and drilled the holes in the correct location. As for the emblems you will have to make the rocker panel emblems, its reall easy :Next time you go to the jy get some complete RS,IROC,Z28 rocker panel emblems, seperate the emblem from the black plastic piece"its just held on by glue to the plastic. Then buy three rear bumper emblems. Cut the bow ties off of them, then trim the CAMARO emblem to fit the plastic piece and then you will have the CAMARO emblem for the rockers.I'll attach a pic of my SC, did everything to the car by myself so far, rebuilt my first motor,did all body mods myself, fixed all the damage to the car, then topped it off by painting the car myself
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Thanks for the compliment ES87iroc
heres the pic of the rear bumper emblen to help show what I'm talking about. THeres only one bad thing I hate about this pic, those white scratches are from :idiots: from work" some times I have to park out back in the dirt lot and they like to sling gravel everywhere.
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z2885er I agree with the others dont try to pass it off as a Z28.
85sSCto89rs that is a beautiful car by the way( mine will reach a simmilar staus I hope as soon as I get it painted.) Anyways z2885er I understand the entire first resto on a budget. That is how I started out. My car is a Z28 but it was had been thrashed on pretty hard. I had to rebuild the engine and it is mildly built but it took two years to do that and it has been 3 years since I received the car and it is still not painted. My car is running great but I love the GFX on the 91-92 Z's so I constantly scrounge for them in the junkyards. If you dont like the way the SC looks ( IMO its just not a camaro w/o GFX) then go ahead and put the GFX on, it isnt gonna hurt it can only improve. Good luck
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85sSCto89rs that is a beautiful car by the way( mine will reach a simmilar staus I hope as soon as I get it painted.) Anyways z2885er I understand the entire first resto on a budget. That is how I started out. My car is a Z28 but it was had been thrashed on pretty hard. I had to rebuild the engine and it is mildly built but it took two years to do that and it has been 3 years since I received the car and it is still not painted. My car is running great but I love the GFX on the 91-92 Z's so I constantly scrounge for them in the junkyards. If you dont like the way the SC looks ( IMO its just not a camaro w/o GFX) then go ahead and put the GFX on, it isnt gonna hurt it can only improve. Good luck
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Imo if it's your car-do what you want to it--just as long as you're not trying to do anything dishonest/illegal go for it. I have an 86 Trans Am that I'm putting 92 gfx and dash on it---just because I really like how it looks. I never plan on getting rid of the car so I have no interest in trying to make any money out of it. Right now it looks like an 89 GTA
! again--because I like the look of it, but I'd never call it a GTA.
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Originally posted by InTeRcEpToR5.7l
not to be mean, but you are fixing to get flamed bad when everyone reads this, that or they are all going to ignore your post....making it look different with z28 stuff is one thing, but dont take a sc and try to pass it off as a z man.
not to be mean, but you are fixing to get flamed bad when everyone reads this, that or they are all going to ignore your post....making it look different with z28 stuff is one thing, but dont take a sc and try to pass it off as a z man.
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Haha sorry to dissapoint you, but the sport coupe 88 is pretty much the z28. The only difference between the 2 is the 1 stripe and the symbols just said Camaro not Z28, and lets not forget the the half sc`s with the wings on it
Haha sorry to dissapoint you, but the sport coupe 88 is pretty much the z28. The only difference between the 2 is the 1 stripe and the symbols just said Camaro not Z28, and lets not forget the the half sc`s with the wings on it
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Originally posted by davecamaro
Haha sorry to dissapoint you, but the sport coupe 88 is pretty much the z28. The only difference between the 2 is the 1 stripe and the symbols just said Camaro not Z28, and lets not forget the the half sc`s with the wings on it
Haha sorry to dissapoint you, but the sport coupe 88 is pretty much the z28. The only difference between the 2 is the 1 stripe and the symbols just said Camaro not Z28, and lets not forget the the half sc`s with the wings on it
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Wow, so this means that there were factory 5.7L TPI SC cars? Mono paint schemes, grid taillights, louvered hood, and deluxe interiors on SC's and they used the same suspension?? So by this logic, a RS also = Z28??
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In reality, the 88' just uses the same gfx panels & nose as a Z28, everything else is the same SC fare that has been coming on those cars for all the years before 88'.
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..do what you want. Just don't sell it to someone as a Z28 after you have fixed it up. And why all the hate on the Sc's. All great things have to start somewhere. Remember the beauty of the 3rd gen is there are so many different looks that can be obtained and make the car look unique. Go for it.
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Originally posted by 85SportCoupeto89RS
Thanks for the compliment ES87iroc
heres the pic of the rear bumper emblen to help show what I'm talking about. THeres only one bad thing I hate about this pic, those white scratches are from :idiots: from work" some times I have to park out back in the dirt lot and they like to sling gravel everywhere.
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Re: It's your car...
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..do what you want. Just don't sell it to someone as a Z28 after you have fixed it up. And why all the hate on the Sc's. All great things have to start somewhere. Remember the beauty of the 3rd gen is there are so many different looks that can be obtained and make the car look unique. Go for it.
..do what you want. Just don't sell it to someone as a Z28 after you have fixed it up. And why all the hate on the Sc's. All great things have to start somewhere. Remember the beauty of the 3rd gen is there are so many different looks that can be obtained and make the car look unique. Go for it.
No hate for the SC here, see above.
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Re: It's your car...
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Remember the beauty of the 3rd gen is there are so many different looks that can be obtained and make the car look unique. Go for it.
Remember the beauty of the 3rd gen is there are so many different looks that can be obtained and make the car look unique. Go for it.
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I too am in the process of adding GFX to my sport coupe. I always say that I'm trying to make my 87 SC look like an 88 SC, but now that I added the grid lights and am contemplating IROC rims, it looks like I'm trying to make the SC something it's not. It's tough to take a base model and add the stuff you like, flammers run rampant on this site so no matter what you do somebody will have something negative to say.
I don't regret anything I've done to my car (not even the LB8 to LG4 swap) I'm making the car the way I want it
I don't regret anything I've done to my car (not even the LB8 to LG4 swap) I'm making the car the way I want it
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I really dont mind owning the Sport Coupe. I would like the IROC of course, but its cheaper on insurance, and my engine puts out a bit more than the best 5.7L that came out, of course my 305 is "sooped up" with all this fancy engine crap that costed me a arm and a leg.. well its nothing for some people, but im only 18.. and Canadian.. haha
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If you actually do get all the Z28 parts and put them on I think it would be fair to call it a SC/Z28 or a Z28 Clone....I don't have a problem with people who actually get all the parts (performance, appearance, misc.) and let people think it is that (fair enough right; I mean in all fairness the parts are what makes the car the model/trim it is; well I would never do that with my car b/c I'm proud of my RS) whatever you do; for the love of *** do not buy some cheesy aftermarket IROC decals and put them on the doors...I see so many people with base models that try to pass them off as IROCs, and it's pretty obvious they aren't...
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i am puttin on the IROC hood, rims and three peice spoiler onto mine and calling it an IROC clone. I am leaving the 88 decals on and swapping out the center cap emblems to the ones that say "Camaro" as well.
I already have the taillights and grill insert, ans since I have an 88, i have the gfx already.
I can't wait to get that "shorty" rear wing off, its starting to get really ugly to me, and a pain to keep it clean underneath. I like the look of the three peice better, cuase the wing is missing something on the sides and doesn't look right from the rear.
I personally feel that you can add the appearance of the z/28, iroc, formula, trans am. gta, firehaxk to your SC just don't call it one or have any emblems to say so.
I don't want to call mine an IROC cuase its not, its a sc with a v6 and I am proud of that. I just like the look of the IROC thats all.
I am also going to through on a Wonderbar to mine, i was going with IROC sways, but I found WS6 so they will just have to do
I already have the taillights and grill insert, ans since I have an 88, i have the gfx already.
I can't wait to get that "shorty" rear wing off, its starting to get really ugly to me, and a pain to keep it clean underneath. I like the look of the three peice better, cuase the wing is missing something on the sides and doesn't look right from the rear.
I personally feel that you can add the appearance of the z/28, iroc, formula, trans am. gta, firehaxk to your SC just don't call it one or have any emblems to say so.
I don't want to call mine an IROC cuase its not, its a sc with a v6 and I am proud of that. I just like the look of the IROC thats all.
I am also going to through on a Wonderbar to mine, i was going with IROC sways, but I found WS6 so they will just have to do
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I took a different approach. I have an 83 SC and changed the suspension components over to Z28 quality or better. Keep the no gfx style and throw in a 305 HO and posi rear and I have a sleeper.
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thats a nice looking ride you got there, though i don't care to much for the spoiler.
All you need to do is start to mess with the engine a bid and make it a better Sleeper!
All you need to do is start to mess with the engine a bid and make it a better Sleeper!
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dude, you can tell by the way you explain the "high per things you had someone else put in your motor that costed you an arm and a leg" that you dont know anything about what ytou re saying, it would take alotr more than an arm and a leg to make a 305 pump out more ponies than a good 350. also judging by your sig where it says "350 crank and performance valves" lol .....but whatever, and no no, no matter what the sc looks like, it doesnt make it as good as a different model... just because the sc had a v8 doesnt mean that it had the same v8 as rs's z's and iroc's, not to put it down because i like all models
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Hold on there "InTeRcEptEr5.7", my 86 SC came with exactly the same engine as a 86Z28. Remember people can order there cars however they want them and all you need is the RPO sheet to prove it. My cars original owner ordered all the power goodies, suspensions, T Tops and none of the cosmetic stuff. I think he was trying to save a buck or something. I am glad he did because 200,000 miles later my Z28 motor is still ticking strong. Many lower base models may have the same engine as a IROC or Z but maybe not the same suspension or paint. The 88 SC was very simular if not the same as the upper models.
Say "E87IROC", my 86SS is so rare it is the only one in the world. lol
Naw, it is really a tribute to my last Camaro(see pic) that was stolen and stripped to the bone. It took me 25 years to get another Camaro so I decided to do what ever I want to the car. Just call my 86NiteRider a Hybred, Crossbreed, Mixed, Clone or whatever but just get the hell out of my way on the road 'cause I am either going around you or thru you depending on what you are driving.
Now I would never sell my car as a SS because I would not want someone to do that to me. I think "z2885er" should feel free to do whatever he wants to do with whatever money he has to work with. It's his car and his money.
BTW there was actually some 3rd gen SS Camaros made by Choo Choo customs Interiors. But that is for another post.
Say "E87IROC", my 86SS is so rare it is the only one in the world. lol
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Naw, it is really a tribute to my last Camaro(see pic) that was stolen and stripped to the bone. It took me 25 years to get another Camaro so I decided to do what ever I want to the car. Just call my 86NiteRider a Hybred, Crossbreed, Mixed, Clone or whatever but just get the hell out of my way on the road 'cause I am either going around you or thru you depending on what you are driving.
Now I would never sell my car as a SS because I would not want someone to do that to me. I think "z2885er" should feel free to do whatever he wants to do with whatever money he has to work with. It's his car and his money.
BTW there was actually some 3rd gen SS Camaros made by Choo Choo customs Interiors. But that is for another post.
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dude, you can tell by the way you explain the "high per things you had someone else put in your motor that costed you an arm and a leg" that you dont know anything about what ytou re saying, it would take alotr more than an arm and a leg to make a 305 pump out more ponies than a good 350. also judging by your sig where it says "350 crank and performance valves" lol .....but whatever, and no no, no matter what the sc looks like, it doesnt make it as good as a different model... just because the sc had a v8 doesnt mean that it had the same v8 as rs's z's and iroc's, not to put it down because i like all models
dude, you can tell by the way you explain the "high per things you had someone else put in your motor that costed you an arm and a leg" that you dont know anything about what ytou re saying, it would take alotr more than an arm and a leg to make a 305 pump out more ponies than a good 350. also judging by your sig where it says "350 crank and performance valves" lol .....but whatever, and no no, no matter what the sc looks like, it doesnt make it as good as a different model... just because the sc had a v8 doesnt mean that it had the same v8 as rs's z's and iroc's, not to put it down because i like all models
buying the models with the better stuff stock doesn't mean anything. The best Hot Rodders replace everything that truly makes an "IROC-Z" and IROC anyway with aftermarket compnents. Why spend the extra money for the sticker on the side?
Not everybody keeps the stock engine in there car anyways. Maybe somepeople want to make a "Real Sleeper"...
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thats a nice looking ride you got there, though i don't care to much for the spoiler.
All you need to do is start to mess with the engine a bid and make it a better Sleeper!
thats a nice looking ride you got there, though i don't care to much for the spoiler.
All you need to do is start to mess with the engine a bid and make it a better Sleeper!
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