F body pickup, do i dare to build it?
06-01-2002, 09:00 AM
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You shot yourself right there... obviously the base model needed improving thus spawning better versions of it making the base model the turd of the bunch....
You shot yourself right there... obviously the base model needed improving thus spawning better versions of it making the base model the turd of the bunch....
:hail:Exactly what I was saying....somebody understands what I'm talking about. :lala: Last edited by 91Zman; 06-01-2002 at 09:12 AM.
06-01-2002, 09:15 AM
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Originally posted by John in RI
Here's a scary picture for you guys to laugh about !!
Here's a scary picture for you guys to laugh about !!
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06-01-2002, 11:12 AM
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Originally posted by Camrs89
Well you guys gotta check out this beauty then...
https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/att...&postid=444052
Local idiots car
Well you guys gotta check out this beauty then...
https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/att...&postid=444052
Local idiots car
Before this joker got ahold of it, I looked at the car, it was overpriced, had a 350 but it was smashed, has a T/A hood with the vents. It was someone's bad dream.
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06-01-2002, 11:09 PM
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so does nobody notice that the 6 wheel behemoth has been photoshoped. the edges have that "i have been cut and pasted and edited beyond belief" look.
06-02-2002, 12:01 AM
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You shot yourself right there... obviously the base model needed improving thus spawning better versions of it making the base model the turd of the bunch....
people liked it enough, that GM made the T/A's....if the firebird was a flop, the t/a would have never existed, correct? I don't want to be rude or start any fights, just saying what I understand the situation to be. I just think you guys don't give the base models enough credit, (ya wouldn't think this has anything to do with owning a "base" model, would it?)
am I the only one that thinks this way? come on, surely there are others out there!
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Hey guys!
New member and all so go easy on me!
I've got an 85 Z28, had it for about 3 1/2 years now. I live in England, so it's a really rare sight over here!
I have a question...might sound a bit dumb but here goes ;
what are ricers? I've read lots of references to rice, but have never heard of it. Except for the grainy stuff you make chinese food with! Probably cos I'm a Brit and it's an American term or something.
If anyone wants to see my pride and joy go to http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/americancarsintheuk
feel free to join, the more members I get the better!
And by the way, that red trans am wagon...GM actually made 2 2nd gen wagons, one silver, one gold. The gold one is long since dead, but I have pics of the silver one if anyone is interested in seeing them...let me know!
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New member and all so go easy on me!
I've got an 85 Z28, had it for about 3 1/2 years now. I live in England, so it's a really rare sight over here!
I have a question...might sound a bit dumb but here goes ;
what are ricers? I've read lots of references to rice, but have never heard of it. Except for the grainy stuff you make chinese food with! Probably cos I'm a Brit and it's an American term or something.
If anyone wants to see my pride and joy go to http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/americancarsintheuk
feel free to join, the more members I get the better!
And by the way, that red trans am wagon...GM actually made 2 2nd gen wagons, one silver, one gold. The gold one is long since dead, but I have pics of the silver one if anyone is interested in seeing them...let me know!
Later
Si
06-02-2002, 05:22 PM
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Originally posted by @ZZKKER
so does nobody notice that the 6 wheel behemoth has been photoshoped. the edges have that "i have been cut and pasted and edited beyond belief" look.
so does nobody notice that the 6 wheel behemoth has been photoshoped. the edges have that "i have been cut and pasted and edited beyond belief" look.
You may just be joking about the hack job the guy did but I have seen the guys website and it had more pictures of the project. He built a dual axle for the back and it showed how he modified the rear too. I wish I had the web address to show you. But this was a long time ago and I don't know if it is still posted on the web.
either way its pretty bad
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In 1989 Chevy made a concept truck out of an IROC...
Heres a site with a few pics
The site says it's an '88, but this is what the book "Cars Detroit Never Built - Fifty years of American experimental cars" says about it:
"Here Chevrolet took an IROC Camaro and put a pickup bed on it. The result : a neat little streamlined utility vehicle. Powered by a 360 hp 4.5L Trans-am racing V-6 engine, and boasting a Corvette
suspension, it pushed along from zero-to-60 in 6.0 seconds, a hot performer for a small truck. Officially, "XT-2" stood for "Experimental Truck #2" (The first was the Blazer XT-1)
Given the consumer shift to small, sporty trucks, the evolution of the Chevrolet XT-2 Pace Truck was natural. Up front, the aerodynamic windshield was also the hood. The entire engine was located under the windshield, which pivoted up on gas struts for easy engine servicing. Special space-age materials insulated the cockpit from engine heat. In the rear the XT-2 had a removable bed floor for access to the rear drivetrain. The XT-2 stood on 17-inch front and 18-inch rear wheels."
Heres a site with a few pics
The site says it's an '88, but this is what the book "Cars Detroit Never Built - Fifty years of American experimental cars" says about it:
"Here Chevrolet took an IROC Camaro and put a pickup bed on it. The result : a neat little streamlined utility vehicle. Powered by a 360 hp 4.5L Trans-am racing V-6 engine, and boasting a Corvette
suspension, it pushed along from zero-to-60 in 6.0 seconds, a hot performer for a small truck. Officially, "XT-2" stood for "Experimental Truck #2" (The first was the Blazer XT-1)
Given the consumer shift to small, sporty trucks, the evolution of the Chevrolet XT-2 Pace Truck was natural. Up front, the aerodynamic windshield was also the hood. The entire engine was located under the windshield, which pivoted up on gas struts for easy engine servicing. Special space-age materials insulated the cockpit from engine heat. In the rear the XT-2 had a removable bed floor for access to the rear drivetrain. The XT-2 stood on 17-inch front and 18-inch rear wheels."
06-03-2002, 12:10 AM
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Why the hell would you f*ck up a third gen like that? Or any car for that matter? I can't stand it when people put those tinny tires on them. There must be something really wrong with someones head that does stuff like that.
06-03-2002, 07:29 AM
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That would have been cool!!
Originally posted by 92Fbody
In 1989 Chevy made a concept truck out of an IROC...
Heres a site with a few pics
The site says it's an '88, but this is what the book "Cars Detroit Never Built - Fifty years of American experimental cars" says about it:
"Here Chevrolet took an IROC Camaro and put a pickup bed on it. The result : a neat little streamlined utility vehicle. Powered by a 360 hp 4.5L Trans-am racing V-6 engine, and boasting a Corvette
suspension, it pushed along from zero-to-60 in 6.0 seconds, a hot performer for a small truck. Officially, "XT-2" stood for "Experimental Truck #2" (The first was the Blazer XT-1)
Given the consumer shift to small, sporty trucks, the evolution of the Chevrolet XT-2 Pace Truck was natural. Up front, the aerodynamic windshield was also the hood. The entire engine was located under the windshield, which pivoted up on gas struts for easy engine servicing. Special space-age materials insulated the cockpit from engine heat. In the rear the XT-2 had a removable bed floor for access to the rear drivetrain. The XT-2 stood on 17-inch front and 18-inch rear wheels."
In 1989 Chevy made a concept truck out of an IROC...
Heres a site with a few pics
The site says it's an '88, but this is what the book "Cars Detroit Never Built - Fifty years of American experimental cars" says about it:
"Here Chevrolet took an IROC Camaro and put a pickup bed on it. The result : a neat little streamlined utility vehicle. Powered by a 360 hp 4.5L Trans-am racing V-6 engine, and boasting a Corvette
suspension, it pushed along from zero-to-60 in 6.0 seconds, a hot performer for a small truck. Officially, "XT-2" stood for "Experimental Truck #2" (The first was the Blazer XT-1)
Given the consumer shift to small, sporty trucks, the evolution of the Chevrolet XT-2 Pace Truck was natural. Up front, the aerodynamic windshield was also the hood. The entire engine was located under the windshield, which pivoted up on gas struts for easy engine servicing. Special space-age materials insulated the cockpit from engine heat. In the rear the XT-2 had a removable bed floor for access to the rear drivetrain. The XT-2 stood on 17-inch front and 18-inch rear wheels."
06-03-2002, 07:38 AM
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There was a guy at the TA Nats with a very nicely done TA/El Camino....it had two rear axles like the photoshopped one. The front axle was original, the second was from a FWD Transport minivan. The car was very well done, and probably was built out of a nice car that got smacked in the rear. I don't personally care for it, but this one looked like it could have been a factory job. It was red, and had 6 of the red GTA wheels on it. I'll see if Shannon got any pics of it...somebody here had to have seen it.
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damn LT1guy, sure revived this post.....i remember posting this a lonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng time ago. and no....i'm not wasting my time building it anymore, but i have some cool drawings that developed from the ideas
09-30-2002, 02:23 PM
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About 10 years ago, there was an El Camino with a Camaro Front Clip on it, actually looked pretty good. Saw it at St Ignace... Anyway, I do not know how hard it would be to put a Firebird Front clip on an Elcamino, but you could call it the El Firebirdo...
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09-30-2002, 02:37 PM
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Man there is so much crazy shiz in this thread .... my head is spinning. I say do it. Cut it up. Chop it up. Lift it. 6 wheels instead of 4. Truck Bed to haul supplies. Offroading in a sports car. Do whatever you want!!
09-30-2002, 02:46 PM
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Originally posted by CrazyHawaiian
Man there is so much crazy shiz in this thread .... my head is spinning. I say do it. Cut it up. Chop it up. Lift it. 6 wheels instead of 4. Truck Bed to haul supplies. Offroading in a sports car. Do whatever you want!!
Man there is so much crazy shiz in this thread .... my head is spinning. I say do it. Cut it up. Chop it up. Lift it. 6 wheels instead of 4. Truck Bed to haul supplies. Offroading in a sports car. Do whatever you want!!
And then go drift in it!!!! 
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But thank goodness you had all those medical supplies in the truck bed. Now you can fix yourself up enough to flip the car back over and offroad to the next Hospital.
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Cut it up. Chop it up. Lift it. 6 wheels instead of 4. Truck Bed to haul supplies. Offroading in a sports car. Do whatever you want!!
:lala:
09-30-2002, 03:48 PM
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Better yet, throw one on an AWD Astro frame (channel the crap out of it!!!), paint it some wild color, and go have fun in the mud with an F-body! Who needs a WRX!!!
09-30-2002, 05:14 PM
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I actually thought your idea was cool. But then everyone started posting pics of all kinda crazy stuff and I didnt know what to type.
I think stuff like that (converting a car to a truck) is cool. It dosnt always turn out how people imagined, but sometimes it does come out good. I think if you tried it and took your time it could come out nice. I have seen some projects like this and they turned out very very cool. One of a kind too. The thing that would make it different is that it still a car underneath. Still has car suspension and the like, but looks like a truck. Most of the crazy car-to-truck conversions I see involve people cutting two vehicles in 1/2 and somehow malforming them together into some sorta freak show. I think if you kept the 3rd gen base and did it tastefully it might turn out nice.
I've seen crazy conversions like this in Japan, and honestly if those were production vehicles I would try to buy one. If anyone ever wants to see it, look for Option Video #72. They took a Japan spec Nissan Skyline R32 and converted it to a truck. It still had all the Skyline drivetrain and engine, but it looked like a truck. And to see it drifting turns like crazy was awesome. Looked and performed way better than todays 'sport trucks'. They also did the conversion to a Nissan 180 sx (240 sx here in the US) and I thought that looked awesome too. I'll try to find a pic. I know alot of guys here wont like it (they'll call it rice since its based off a Japanese car), but just to show you what I mean ....
I think stuff like that (converting a car to a truck) is cool. It dosnt always turn out how people imagined, but sometimes it does come out good. I think if you tried it and took your time it could come out nice. I have seen some projects like this and they turned out very very cool. One of a kind too. The thing that would make it different is that it still a car underneath. Still has car suspension and the like, but looks like a truck. Most of the crazy car-to-truck conversions I see involve people cutting two vehicles in 1/2 and somehow malforming them together into some sorta freak show. I think if you kept the 3rd gen base and did it tastefully it might turn out nice.
I've seen crazy conversions like this in Japan, and honestly if those were production vehicles I would try to buy one. If anyone ever wants to see it, look for Option Video #72. They took a Japan spec Nissan Skyline R32 and converted it to a truck. It still had all the Skyline drivetrain and engine, but it looked like a truck. And to see it drifting turns like crazy was awesome. Looked and performed way better than todays 'sport trucks'. They also did the conversion to a Nissan 180 sx (240 sx here in the US) and I thought that looked awesome too. I'll try to find a pic. I know alot of guys here wont like it (they'll call it rice since its based off a Japanese car), but just to show you what I mean ....
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Wow I somehow found a pic of the 180sx truck conversion I was talking about earlier. Its a pic that someone took while they were visiting Japan so its not that good. Bad angle and the bed is filled with stuff but here ya go:
I'll post more pics of what I consider successfull truck conversions as I find em ...
I'll post more pics of what I consider successfull truck conversions as I find em ...
10-01-2002, 03:55 AM
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SAVE THE F BODY
EL CAMINOS ARE A DIME A DOZEN I KNOW BECAUSE I OWN ONE. THE CONVERSION WOULD BE ALOT BETTER AND EASIER THIS WAY. AND IF YOUR NOT LOOKING FOR EASY THEN JUST BIULD A TWIN TURBO MID VIPER MOTER ALL WHEEL DRIVE CARAVAN R/T A.K.A. SUPER SLEEPER
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THE LINK IS http://www.laureneng.com
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Originally posted by KiLLJ0Y
i now know why i make fun of people in Arkansas,WV, TN,GA and any other "po-dunk" hill-billy, beer swilling, mudd wrestling, ****** dawning(guys and girls), country listening, toothless, overalls to church wearing hicks.
i now know why i make fun of people in Arkansas,WV, TN,GA and any other "po-dunk" hill-billy, beer swilling, mudd wrestling, ****** dawning(guys and girls), country listening, toothless, overalls to church wearing hicks.
Its especially funny to see someone from California making fun of another state...the other 49 are making fun of you!
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Re: Transamcamino
Originally posted by sheltonw3
this is just two nuttz!
this is just two nuttz!
Thats the one I was talking about...I don't care for it, but it was very well done. Looks like the pic was taken at the Tipp City Cruise...that's Redraif's car behind it.
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Originally posted by CrazyHawaiian
Wow I somehow found a pic of the 180sx truck conversion I was talking about earlier. Its a pic that someone took while they were visiting Japan so its not that good. Bad angle and the bed is filled with stuff but here ya go:
I'll post more pics of what I consider successfull truck conversions as I find em ...
Wow I somehow found a pic of the 180sx truck conversion I was talking about earlier. Its a pic that someone took while they were visiting Japan so its not that good. Bad angle and the bed is filled with stuff but here ya go:
I'll post more pics of what I consider successfull truck conversions as I find em ...
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While I might say any of these ideas would look ugly to me, if someone here could actually pull it off themselves, and have a photo-by-photo "story" of the work, I'd be damn impressed.
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looking at the El Camaro that 89 Firechicken posted, it looks to me that the car is basically a Stock El Camino with some ground effects and a differnt nose piece... It does NOT appear to be the front clip from a Camaro, the slant is to steep from the angle shown to be a stock Camaro nose...
Just looks that way 2 me...
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Just looks that way 2 me...
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10-01-2002, 04:48 PM
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I think the major downfall for a conversion like this is that whoever does it usually plans to make the bed as big as a real truck. All the successfull (or what I consider succesfull) truck conversions I've seen dont have a bed anywhere near the size of a real truck. And thats how I think it should be. I dont think that anyone who would convert a sports car into a truck would want to haul bricks or wood around town. Its mostly for the cool factor. You can still put stuff in the back and it'll look like a truck .... but going for too much bed space can make the project looked messed up.
Also, be sure to re-inforce the fame of the car (sub frames and a rollcage for sure) if you do something like this. I'm no expert on stuff like this, but doing a tuck conversion could really weaken the strength of the chassis. Well I think so anyway lol
K den
Also, be sure to re-inforce the fame of the car (sub frames and a rollcage for sure) if you do something like this. I'm no expert on stuff like this, but doing a tuck conversion could really weaken the strength of the chassis. Well I think so anyway lol
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Lauren Engineering has a Camaro and Monte Carlo SS front clip for an El-Camino! Much easier and saves the poor 3rd gen
10-04-2002, 10:04 PM
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I was under the impression that GM made the El Camino SS around 85 or 86 as a production vehicle, not an aftermarket change over.....following the Monte Carlo SS's and such...same front ends, just adding the style and flair trying to keep the Elkies alive...didn't work, they died out in 87......or maybe I'm just dead wrong.....
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Originally posted by CrazyHawaiian
Man there is so much crazy shiz in this thread .... my head is spinning. I say do it. Cut it up. Chop it up. Lift it. 6 wheels instead of 4. Truck Bed to haul supplies. Offroading in a sports car. Do whatever you want!!
Man there is so much crazy shiz in this thread .... my head is spinning. I say do it. Cut it up. Chop it up. Lift it. 6 wheels instead of 4. Truck Bed to haul supplies. Offroading in a sports car. Do whatever you want!!
How about...
Nooooooooooo. You sick Dutch bastard.....