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February 2019 COTM **Voting Thread**

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Old 01-19-2019 | 04:25 PM
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February 2019 COTM **Voting Thread**

This is a good month with lots of variation...


west1nm*****1991 Z28 Convertible



z28cop*****1985 IROC



1MeanZ*****1989 GTA



Grudgehog*****1982 Z28



live4formula*****1989 Formula

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Old 01-19-2019 | 04:31 PM
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I think you've got a little typo in west1nm , not west1nn
Old 01-19-2019 | 04:38 PM
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Got it.
Old 01-19-2019 | 04:38 PM
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I cannot track down the profile of Grudgehog to notify him that he's been nominated.
Old 01-19-2019 | 04:58 PM
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I can't either. Appears to have no posting history so not coming up in a search.
Old 01-19-2019 | 05:05 PM
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Re: February 2019 COTM **Voting Thread**

Thank you for the nomination! I purchased the car in 2010 and was originally a Z28 305TPI with 700R4 auto. Since then, I did the following:

LS3 w/ TSP Camshaft (231/236)
PRC Springs and CNC Cylinder Heads
Stainless Works Headers
FAST 102 Intake Manifold and Throttle Body
Holley HP EFI Harness and ECU
Tick T56 6-speed w/ adjustable Master and Monster Stage 3 Clutch
Strange Dana 60 Trac-Loc w/ 4.11 gears
C5 Z06 Front Brakes and LS1 Z28 Rear Disc Brakes
Koni Adjustable Shocks
Eibach Springs
Stayfast Cloth top with glass window
Spohn Control Arms, Strut Brace, Caster Plates, Torque Arm, SFC's

I'm sure there's much more I forgot - thanks again!







Old 01-19-2019 | 05:12 PM
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Old 01-20-2019 | 11:11 AM
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Re: February 2019 COTM **Voting Thread**

Thanks for the nomination. My car is a 1989 Formula 5.0L TPI 5 speed. I believe it is one of 42 made according to reports from Car and Driver Magazine. It has 60,000 original miles and is mostly original except for new paint, Hurst shifter and new headliner. It won second place at the Trans Am Nationals in 2016.
Old 01-20-2019 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by live4formula
Thanks for the nomination. My car is a 1989 Formula 5.0L TPI 5 speed. I believe it is one of 42 made according to reports from Car and Driver Magazine. It has 60,000 original miles and is mostly original except for new paint, Hurst shifter and new headliner. It won second place at the Trans Am Nationals in 2016.
Just curious....where you are coming up with the one of 42 built number?
I'm seeing 1126 89 Formula's built with the 5 speed / LB9 combo for 1989 in Robert Casey's book.
But there is no drive train combo & color breakdown in the book.
Nice looking car !! Good Luck
Old 01-20-2019 | 11:32 AM
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Old 01-20-2019 | 11:35 AM
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Old 01-20-2019 | 11:37 AM
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Old 01-20-2019 | 11:41 AM
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Thanks BizJetTech. The only data I have found is an article in Car and Driver stating less than 50 were built with the 5.0L TPI and 5 speed combo. A guy who claims to have worked in the marketing department for Pontiac says there were 42. If you have anything showing actual production numbers, I would love to see it. I special ordered one with T-tops in 1989, and like an idiot, I sold it in 1994. I have only seen one other one with the 5 speed other than the one I had in 1989 and the one I have today.
Old 01-21-2019 | 04:02 PM
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Re: February 2019 COTM **Voting Thread**

Some images of Grudgehog - maybe it will sway some votes?




At the track







Old 01-22-2019 | 03:48 AM
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Thanks for the Nomination. My 1985 is an L69, 4 whl disc.and 3:73 gear. It has the LS interior. I ordered the car in November 84 the first week ordering was opened. The car was built on Jan 2-4, 85, and was delivered on Jan 11, 85. I initially was going to use it as my daily driver, but it immediatley became a pleasure car, but it was driven on nice days. I drove it to work at rhe GM Norwood Plant on multiple occasions. I had started my own chapter of the United States Camaro Club back in 86, and my IROC participated in the annual Camaro shows, and at the Camaro Street Nationals at the GM Tech Center. I had articles published on it in the Camaro Corral Magazine, and it was on the cover twice. It has been on pace laps on Michigan Intl Speedway and Indianapolis Speedway. The Cincinnati Enquirer did and article on me and the car when the plant was closing. It has brought many years of joy to me, and I have driven, yet miticulously cared for it over the years. I was blessed to be able to be with it from floor pan to shipping as it was built. I even got to start it up first on the line. I know there are nicer IROCs out there, but none of them has shared all the moments that me and my IROC have over the years. I love the No. 30 Bright Blue Metallic paint color and the contrasting LS Interior. Other options include HD Battery, HD Cooling, HD Alternator, Quiet Sound Group, AM/FM casette, Tilt wheel, AC, Rear Window Defroster, T-Tops, Pwr Windows, Locks, and Antenna. The reason it has the Quartz Clock is the guys at the factory hooked it up underneath the console, so the car wouldnt get flagged in Final Assembly and be removed. When I got it home, I removed the console top and cut the 3 in hole for the clock. I just think its a really cool item, and it still works today. I have right at 30000 miles on it to date, and she remains original with all original factory belts and hoses. Thanks for the nomination. So many nice cars on TGO.


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Old 01-22-2019 | 04:01 AM
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Old 01-22-2019 | 07:41 AM
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Great story z28cop.. and beautiful car!

Very nice mix of cars this month. The black Vert is very impressive and well done and the red formula is a very desireable combo.

Would like to see the other cars too..
Old 01-22-2019 | 07:49 AM
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z28cop... that is about the perfect Thirdgen! 5spd, 3.73s, HO, IROC! What else is there to say. Good luck awesome car!
Old 01-22-2019 | 08:14 AM
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Z28cop - your car and it's story (history) is one of my all time favorite TGO IROC's
Congrats on being able to keep it in such nice condition all these years.......well done !!
Good luck....
Old 01-22-2019 | 08:26 AM
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Z28Cop -

Beautiful car and great story. Reminds me of my own experience ordering my Medium Maui Blue Metallic Trans Am in 1988. I still have it except I'm now up to 50,000 miles. Great job keeping it original and in such great shape.

Good luck!
Old 01-22-2019 | 09:49 AM
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Thanks for the nomination. It's flattering to have others think enough of your car to nominate it. We've all spent a lot of time, money, and work on our cars, thanks to all for the support.

I've had this GTA since 2010. It's my almost daily driver in the spring, summer and fall. I avoid bad weather, but otherwise it's driven. Been on 2 power tours and various road trips. Car has been bulletproof reliable, but I've spent a lot of time addressing the details to make it that way. The goal was stock reliability and behavior, with more modern levels of power. You can't tell this from a stock manual trans thirdgen until you get on the throttle hard, then there's no doubt it's been tampered with!

I'll just hit the high spots here on mods because you all don't want to read a book I'm sure. If there are other questions about the car, post up or PM me. By the way, this car is currently for sale!

Body is stock with 90% original paint and a replacement Hawk's spoiler
Engine is a 383 with SCAT rotating assembly, ProFiler heads, SuperRam intake and a custom tune by me. Dyno Don headers and custom dual cat 3.5" single exhaust. (car is almost as quiet as stock)
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Suspension is full bolt on from J&M with Global west Del-a-lum bushings in the front and Koni Yellows all around. Stock springs cut half coil at all corners as well.








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more pictures

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Old 01-22-2019 | 12:47 PM
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That is a very nice GTA. Under the hood looks awesome, I bet its a blast with that t56!
Old 01-22-2019 | 04:00 PM
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Very nice. You got my vote! I can't see it very well in this picture. Is that a 315 rear tire?
Old 01-22-2019 | 04:23 PM
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Very nice. You got my vote! I can't see it very well in this picture. Is that a 315 rear tire?
Thanks IROCThe5.7L - all nice cars here (and much more on TGO) would make it very difficult to vote! But yes, it’s 315 Nitto’s on the rear.
Old 01-22-2019 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by west1nm

Thanks IROCThe5.7L - all nice cars here (and much more on TGO) would make it very difficult to vote! But yes, it’s 315 Nitto’s on the rear.
Are those C4 corvette wheels? with spacers?
Old 01-22-2019 | 04:55 PM
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Are those C4 corvette wheels? with spacers?
Yes, C4 ZR1 wheels and 1/4” spacer on the rear. Can’t recall spacer size on the front, but believe it required slightly thicker.
Old 01-22-2019 | 04:57 PM
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Yes, C4 ZR1 wheels and 1/4” spacer on the rear. Can’t recall spacer size on the front, but believe it required slightly thicker.
10" wide rears ?? How wide fronts? I'd like to get a set of these wheels, I thought they'd require a bigger spacer - thanks!
Old 01-22-2019 | 05:15 PM
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10" wide rears ?? How wide fronts? I'd like to get a set of these wheels, I thought they'd require a bigger spacer - thanks!
It’s been quite some time, but pretty confident they are 10” or 10.5” rears. Front are 9.5” with 275 Nitto’s.
Old 01-22-2019 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by west1nm
It’s been quite some time, but pretty confident they are 10” or 10.5” rears. Front are 9.5” with 275 Nitto’s.
Thanks - and good luck with the car, it looks awesome!
Old 01-22-2019 | 06:09 PM
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Thanks - and good luck with the car, it looks awesome!
You bet - and thanks!
Old 01-22-2019 | 07:31 PM
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My copy of Robert Casey's book arrived today and it shows 1126 Formulas were built with the MK6 manual transmission, but it does not specify how many of those were mated to the LB9 5.0L TPI engine. I would still argue the 42 number is accurate.
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Originally Posted by live4formula
My copy of Robert Casey's book arrived today and it shows 1126 Formulas were built with the MK6 manual transmission, but it does not specify how many of those were mated to the LB9 5.0L TPI engine. I would still argue the 42 number is accurate.
Look again, at page 79 - it states 1126 LB9's mated to the MK6....
Old 01-23-2019 | 08:16 AM
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I normally have a strong Firebird bias, but I had to vote for Z28cop. Beautiful car!
Old 01-23-2019 | 09:22 AM
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1126 is still low production!
Old 01-23-2019 | 09:27 AM
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Re: February 2019 COTM **Voting Thread**

Originally Posted by live4formula
My copy of Robert Casey's book arrived today and it shows 1126 Formulas were built with the MK6 manual transmission, but it does not specify how many of those were mated to the LB9 5.0L TPI engine. I would still argue the 42 number is accurate.

All MK6 trans' were mated to LB9s.
Old 01-23-2019 | 09:33 AM
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All MK6 trans' were mated to LB9s.
The MK6 was for the LB9 & the M39 was for the L03 - was there any difference in these transmissions other then gear ratio's ??
Old 01-23-2019 | 09:41 AM
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The MK6 was for the LB9 & the M39 was for the L03 - was there any difference in these transmissions other then gear ratio's ??

None that I know of other that the 5th gear ratio. The steeper MK6 5th gear when combined with a 3.45/3.42 rear, could be used on high speed tracks more effectively. .73 vs .63 ratios. An M39 would also be mated to usually a non-G92 LB9. But 5th gear and 3.08 rear is more of a highway cruising gear.

My black G92 hardtop has a MK6 and my white non-G92 convertible has an M39.
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Originally Posted by chazman
None that I know of other that the 5th gear ratio. The steeper MK6 5th gear when combined with a 3.45/3.42 rear, could be used on high speed tracks more effectively. .73 vs .63 ratios. An M39 would also be mated to usually a non-G92 LB9. But 5th gear and 3.08 rear is more of a highway cruising gear.

My black G92 hardtop has a MK6 and my white non-G92 convertible has an M39.
- Sorry folks, did not mean to hi-jack this thread - good luck to all this months nominee's,
all nice cars once again
Old 01-23-2019 | 03:41 PM
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z28cop, did you help build your car that day or did you take the day off to walk it down the assembly line?
Old 01-23-2019 | 04:37 PM
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Some images of Grudgehog - maybe it will sway some votes?
FWIW, I was able to get a hold of Grudgehog’s user account, so the notification was sent.
Old 01-23-2019 | 04:45 PM
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I stand corrected and now I know the real story. The Car and Driver article in March 1990 refers to the 5.0L TPI/ 5 speed with the LE2 suspension package. Thanks for clarifying the numbers. I am a little disappointed that there are 1126, but it is still fun to drive!!
Old 01-23-2019 | 05:30 PM
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Re: February 2019 COTM **Voting Thread**

Originally Posted by live4formula
I stand corrected and now I know the real story. The Car and Driver article in March 1990 refers to the 5.0L TPI/ 5 speed with the LE2 suspension package. Thanks for clarifying the numbers. I am a little disappointed that there are 1126, but it is still fun to drive!!
Look at it this way - if you could break it down further, your color combo with the 5 speed and LB9 is probably around 1 of 350 or so......just a guess based on the other colors offered.
Old 01-23-2019 | 09:00 PM
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Re: February 2019 COTM **Voting Thread**

Originally Posted by live4formula


I saw both of these cars at Trans Am Nationals, the Formula at the show and the white GTA, though with stock wheels, at the TIpp City Cruise, several years ago. Both cars are awesome and great examples of 3rd Gens. Bravo gentlemen, well done!
Old 01-23-2019 | 09:08 PM
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Re: February 2019 COTM **Voting Thread**

All of the cars are super awesome this month! This was the hardest COTM vote I've ever done.
Old 01-24-2019 | 05:42 AM
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Re: February 2019 COTM **Voting Thread**

Originally Posted by 86TA355SR
I saw both of these cars at Trans Am Nationals, the Formula at the show and the white GTA, though with stock wheels, at the TIpp City Cruise, several years ago. Both cars are awesome and great examples of 3rd Gens. Bravo gentlemen, well done!
Thank You!
Old 01-24-2019 | 07:59 AM
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Re: February 2019 COTM **Voting Thread**

These are all beautiful cars. Good luck guys.
Old 01-25-2019 | 12:06 AM
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Re: February 2019 COTM **Voting Thread**

Originally Posted by Richardman1992
z28cop, did you help build your car that day or did you take the day off to walk it down the assembly line?
I was not working, just walking along side.


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