Omega

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Instead of having a single lamp on either side, how about two? It would use the same thin ones as the camaros have, but stacked. When you turn the lights on they would pop up just enough to show the low beam lamps. When you hit the highbeams, they would pop up more and have those facing forward instead. I can only think of a few downsides.... I don't beleive the motor will be able to have two position settings. Doesn't it just turn on and when the assy reaches its limit it shuts off. It would be awsome if they were stepper motors but i don't think they are. An easy way around it would to just get rid of the highbeams all together. What do you think?

Azure

lol, I think it'd be interesteing to have the lights "peeking" up when they're in low...but I think the motor works basically up/down...not sops in between are possible. Then again, whatta I know?

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Tas

I think 1 camaro light and one round piaa type light would fit side by side, that way the headlights won't have to come up as high.

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Omega

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Hmm, that is a much better idea. That way, the problem of the headlights needing 2 positions.

Does anyone know how to resrict the amount they pop up?

Adams87Camaro

why don't you go with a stingray type of headlight with the 2 lights side by side i think that would look great

Omega

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My goal is to have the light only come up a fraction of what they do now.

I talked to one of my local Pontiac serice guys just now. He wasn't quite sure if they have some kind of internal device that knows when its all the way up or if its a resistance thing. As in when the assy. is all the way up the motor stops and since it is still trying to go up, the amp draw spikes up and the motor is then shut off (or something like that) He did say that when there is something prohibiting the light from opening fully, you can and will burn the motor out. He also said there are some adjustment bolts that let you adjust the position off the assy. I will have to pick up a couple from the junk yard to find out.

Does anyone know the difference between the 2 style of head light motors? I know they updated them at some point, but i don't know the difference. Finding late model cars here is next to impossible!!

silentneko

the headlights are stoped by resistance, all you have to do is secure a block on the pivot arm so it contacts the stop earlier.

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scauffiel

One of the projects on my "to do" list is to mod some 3000GT headlights into mine. The idea is a lot like yours, stop the light as soon as possible yet still have the two lights "peek" out. Of course, this is all still in the "vaporware" stage - I just think it'd look cool to have the headlights pop up only slightly, with the two smaller lamps showing...


Steve

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Omega

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Steve,

Exactly! The 3000GT idea is interesting. There is a black firebird that was floating around here awhile ago that did something similar.

I really hope silentneko is correct. Now the only dilema is to modify the cover around the actual light.

scauffiel

Uh-oh check it out... I wonder if I could email the guy to get some measurements... But that is a lot of coin for a "maybe"...

Steve

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cg...item=598844196

HrdRockA4305

"My goal is to have the light only come up a fraction of what they do now"

I've seen some Pobe guys do this, they call it "sleepy eye." I don't remember what site, but you might find it if you do some searches for Probe sites. I'm sure however they did it can be adapted to a 'bird.

AmorgetRS

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That Black Firebird w/ the simular headlight mod is mine.
Anyway, I thought about the 3000 GT headlight mod, but I decided it did not fit the lines well at all of the car. Just would look funky, I felt.
As for the partial pop up, I thought about that, too. It would look cool, just be a kinda pain because you'd have to make a new headlight bezel, also.

jobryan26

I think it's the gayest thing i've ever seen! By the way did I say it SUCKS!







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scauffiel: That looks like a neat odea. Its a good thing you are into body work, you would have to cut into the hood a bit and rework the area behind the light. That is a little pricey though.

AmorgetRS: I have seen your car before. I like the idea. It would look perfect if you swapped a 90+ nose on. That would solve the plastic needing to mount to the cap.

jobryan26: Congratulations on your opinion. I however do not share your opinion on how a headlight mod is shows any kind of homosexual connotation.

scauffiel

Well, since it's hard to tell by the typed word if there is any sarcasm or facetiousness involved - I've covered both bases.

In case you aren't kidding and seriously think it sucks:

{sigh} Always got to be one guy.
Thanks for the opinion... and thanks again for wasting your valuable time responding to this post.

However, if you are kidding, then disregard the above and err, uhhh... thanks for the pix.

Steve


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ChillPhatCat

The only problem I see is the angles... if the light only comes up part way, it will be pointing down at the road probably limiting your vision to 20-30 feet, you'll need to get the top light to pivot to point upwards more when it's giving people the "lazy eye" and to pivot back to normal [stock] position when your brights go on.

un4givin89

THats an interesting idea, but I think he could have done a better job. I personally don't like the way that looks. My idea would be to have the way it looks closed, but the light in the little gap just like the bliner there.

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scauffiel

You ever hear the quote "The one person that can do your job better is the one who's never done it"?

I think he did a fantastic job and it turned out exactly how he wanted it. It's rare to see someone do something that in-depth. If you ever give a serious project a try the last thing you want to hear is somebody saying, "Yeah, it's nice but I could do better."

Well, we'll wait.

Jeeez.

Steve

AmorgetRS

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My car is a 90, and I can't stand those 91/92 noses, and actually it wouldn't work with a 91/92 nose. Second, a half up, you still need a bezel or up they look bad. Yeah, at night, but lots of people want to see it and during the day you show it they go... oh... okay...
The way that other mod was done was horrible. It was exactly what he wanted... but if what you want doesn't look right... well, it never will look right. Simple as that. I took his idea and redid it the way I felt it looked a lot better, and I think most people agree with that.

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Omega

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Amorget: I was in no way flaming you for your headlights. I do like them, and i love the 91+ noses thats why i said that. Upon closer inspection i see that it isn't possible to do with the newer nose, the lights would be hidden. What other mod are you talking about?

ChevyKen

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A few years ago when I was real eager about getting an 80-82 Corvette, I had this idea about a headlight mod as I didn't really care for those vette lights when up.
I think the same idea would be cool on a firebird if at all possible.

The idea is to kinda turn around the flip function, so that instead of the headlight flipping up, a cover shaped like the one on top of the stock headlights would move down to a "horizontal" position, and then expose the headlights which would be "frenched" in kinda like on the Camaro.
If you have seen the headlight kits for the C3 vettes that removes the entire flip up thing and leaves the lights exposed but "frenched" - you know what look I mean.

I think that would be slick as he||, but I don't know how doable it is.


Ken


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jobryan26

Yes guys I was joking because i remebered the pics being posted before. And these which are pretty cool. https://www.thirdgen.org/messgboard/...ML/001790.html

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Amorget: Your headlights are AWSOME!! That is a VERY slick idea. Now i am torn between your idea and mine

Omega

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I bought the low beam H4351 light...did you know they are $30 a pop!!! Plans have changed with using original bulbs though. I searched around for the sealed beam conversion kits that are available. I finally found a site that sells them for that size. Instead of installing just the low beam 9004 (?) bulb, i am going to install the H4 version. That will give me high AND low beam from the same little housing. The price is pretty good for the housing, only $50 for the pair, compared to $60 for the replacements. Next step is to buy a headlight assy. so i can mock everything up without destroying my original parts.

92Transam

http://store.racinglab.com/pihecophehea.html
This company sells on of the boxes the imports use to get that sleepy eye look but I dunno if it would work on our cars.