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Old 11-26-2001, 06:31 AM
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Take a look at this Z28

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Someone tell me how he made that front extension on his front ground effects. I would like to do that!
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Pretty sweet car.

I would imagine he hand-built that piece. You can't tell from the picture, though. If it were me, I'd add onto the existing valence with fiberglass, then take a mold from it, and scratch-build the entire piece from fiberglass or carbon-fibre.
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I wish there were fuctional spoilers for or cars. That one on the front looks custom.
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That car was in Popular Hot Rodding a couple years ago...pretty neat. Full tube-frame deal, venturi tunnels under the car, 250mph TESTED top speed...not too shabby.
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I would change the rear gears, how often are you going to be going 250 mph, now that 11.5 sec. 1/4 would be like 9's.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Mark A Shields:
I would change the rear gears, how often are you going to be going 250 mph, now that 11.5 sec. 1/4 would be like 9's.

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Its not made for the 1/4 mile. And how many times is he gonna take it out on the road? Prolly about as many times as he goes 250mph.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Mark A Shields:
I would change the rear gears, how often are you going to be going 250 mph, now that 11.5 sec. 1/4 would be like 9's.

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That is a purpose built race car , he probably sees those speeds more often than you think. Hello Bonneville ...Silver State

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Ward, the car is almost 100% custom. Im sure he has next to nothing inside it.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Ward:
Can someone tell me how he got it that light? 2643 lbs? Yeah right! The whole thing must be aluminium!

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It's not that hard. Alumium intake, water pump, driveshaft, would save a some weight. Plus JC Whitney sells complete Fiberglass front ends for our Camaros.

Oh, and I know the car isn't set up for the 1/4, I was just saying that's what I would be interested in more.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Mark A Shields:


Oh, and I know the car isn't set up for the 1/4, I was just saying that's what I would be interested in more.

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Why? If you think the 1/4 mile is better than road racing then you got something wrong with you. Take your car on a good mountain drive or to the next Auto-X and then when you are done I would love to see how long it would take you to get that huge grin off your face.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Can someone tell me how he got it that light? 2643 lbs? Yeah right! The whole thing must be aluminium!</font>
I already said it in my previous post--the car's a full custom tube-frame deal...basically just like a stock car with a Camaro body.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Monkie:
Why? If you think the 1/4 mile is better than road racing then you got something wrong with you. Take your car on a good mountain drive or to the next Auto-X and then when you are done I would love to see how long it would take you to get that huge grin off your face.

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Because people have likes and dislikes, I was just expressing an opinion.
And as far as driving up a mountain, well I go to college up in the moutnains and have made several trips. There's nothing special to me, I like acceleration probably the same way you like going fast.

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Does anybody know what kind of rims he has on that car?
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I'm more of a straight line person as well. Though going around turns and such can be somewhat fun at times, the risk involved and the wear on your car are much worse than going down a drag strip, or just getting on it for fun. Turns and such just don't do it for me... some people like it. I've heard AutoX is alot of fun, but too expensive and too much wear for me. Maybe one day.

Right now, 1/4 is all I need... well that and a fast car.

Doing 250 would be fun too though

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Monkie:
Ward, the car is almost 100% custom. Im sure he has next to nothing inside it.</font>
Actually, it has the stock dash, door panels, and console. All of the power accessories are still functional! He has a police scanner in place of the radio 'cause he races that beast on the street! I had the article from Popular Hotrodding (I bought the mag because of the picture of that Camaro on it with the caption; "Insane! 200MPH on the street!") As my luck usually goes, that mag was in the back of my '85 Z28 which had a huge leak in the rear hatch thus soaking it.
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Those are Fiske FM5s. I have wanted them ever since seeing that article. They are MEGA BUCK$$$! There is a guy with an '84 Z that used to post here that had them. Fiske custom made them to fit his Camaro.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Ions91Z28:
I've heard AutoX is alot of fun, but too expensive and too much wear for me. </font>
You obviously haven't done any. AutoX wears out your tires fast and that's it. Of course you aren't doing burnouts either. It's a lot easier on everything else, because you aren't power shifting, launching and making the car bite hard sending a shock through the car. I haven't heard of anyone blowing up a rear end at an autoX. You spend most of the time between 20-40 mph. It's harder on the brakes also but not too bad. As far as price, it costs the same or less thn drag racing. Most entry fees are comparable to drag racing, but you can be competiitive with a bone stock car as long as you race in the right class. You should try it. Since I first autocrossed, drag racing hasn't held the same appeal to me.
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I was about to point that out. How much more wear does a good turn do to a tire than a burnout in drag racing? And any kind of racing is going to have some kind of wear put on parts of the car.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by mcconahay37:
You obviously haven't done any. AutoX wears out your tires fast and that's it. Of course you aren't doing burnouts either. It's a lot easier on everything else, because you aren't power shifting, launching and making the car bite hard sending a shock through the car. I haven't heard of anyone blowing up a rear end at an autoX. You spend most of the time between 20-40 mph. It's harder on the brakes also but not too bad. As far as price, it costs the same or less thn drag racing. Most entry fees are comparable to drag racing, but you can be competiitive with a bone stock car as long as you race in the right class. You should try it. Since I first autocrossed, drag racing hasn't held the same appeal to me.</font>
different stroke for different folks!

I've road raced before and It's a heck of a lot of fun, but for me the most interesting part of those races was the straight-away, if I happened to get out of a turn beside another racer, it was the biggest rush when we dragged to the next turn. turning is fun, but kinda boring when you have to slow waaay down, ease into the gas then finally get a straight to open 'er up again.


to me straight line contests of acceleration is what I like the most.

It's the 1on1 matchup, to see the 2 cars lined up, ready to tear a strip, when they finaly go, it's the squeelin of your tires as your pushed back into your seat, being able to (most of the time) stomp the gas as hard as possible, hearing your V8 roar to life with fury. feeling the front of your car lift with the weight transfer, then a hard kick in the back as you bang into 2nd gear with excitement, It's watchin your opponent's car in slow motion beside you, as he shifts, either losing ground or gaining it..
It's glancing down at your speedo as it passes 100mph and your opponent is still beside you seemingly not moving at all, both V8's barking out the exhaust, trying to scare one another into giving up...

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what tranny does this guy run ?
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Damn!.....hearing you talk about dragging makes me want to run right out and race. I am only 23 and I still like the straight line. My car runs good in the twisties but since I threw and axle when I was driving, it has lots some of it's appeal. All I can picture now is sitting in the ditch with the wrong side facing up!

Cars are a big testosterone thing! I like pulling up beside some guy on the local runway. When the flagman drops his arms and you are feathering the gas off the line...you spin a bit and then the car hooks up. It is like a swift boot in the back and then when you bang second at it and your tires bark and you start to pull hard.

It is even better when you have a loud mouth punk with his $30,000 Integra GSR, which is loaded and modded to the nuts, pull up beside you. Then you take your almost stock boat anchor 305 and whoop him good!!! HEHEHE

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by purpleworm:

I like pulling up beside some guy on the local runway. When the flagman drops his arms and you are feathering the gas off the line...you spin a bit and then the car hooks up. It is like a swift boot in the back and then when you bang second at it and your tires bark and you start to pull hard.

It is even better when you have a loud mouth punk with his $30,000 Integra GSR, which is loaded and modded to the nuts, pull up beside you. Then you take your almost stock boat anchor 305 and whoop him good!!! HEHEHE

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Hey.......I think they made a move like that once!!! anyone know the name of it? Hmmmm honda's on runways...Where have I seen this before?!


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Too bad the wheels have been super imposed off of another car. The offsets to fit a third gen are completely wrong in the picture. I know I went through the process having the wheels custom made for my 1984 Z28. The wheels in the picture have no dish to the the spokes are almost flush. The wheels on mine have a very deep dish to them. Just take a closer look at the wheels in the picture you will see what I am talking about.


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I like both Auto-X and Drag racing. Drag racing is more my passion, but this is due to ignorance to auto-x. I didn't know you mainly just wear out the tires and brakes. We don't have a lot of twisties around here as far as normal roads. That is why drag racing appeals more to me. Where I am its hard to pull up next to someone and try and race around corners.......because we have so few. If i get the chance I might just try auto-x, if they have that around here. Thanks for the education.



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Some of you guys need to start taking your pills again I have that magazine article if anyone wants a scan of it. The car started life as a '92 Z28. It has a Porsche rear suspension setup and a ZR-1 front suspension. It has a ZF 6 speed for a tranny. Those wheels are Fikse FM-5's, and yes they are real. They fit because this thing doesn't have any wheel wells. This is basically a race car with a '92 Camaro body. I still love it though.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Z28HO:
Nice Pics!
Too bad the wheels have been super imposed off of another car. The offsets to fit a third gen are completely wrong in the picture. I know I went through the process having the wheels custom made for my 1984 Z28. The wheels in the picture have no dish to the the spokes are almost flush. The wheels on mine have a very deep dish to them. Just take a closer look at the wheels in the picture you will see what I am talking about.


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Is your Z28 the one in the book that has Mr. Blakeley's 1LE? If so that is one sweet car. You got the look just right. It's very subtle.



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Yes that is my car in the book with Greg Blakley's 91 1lE. And thanks for the compliment.

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I would also like to see a scan of that article you were talking about. And what magazine was it in?
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Z28HO:
Nice Pics!
Too bad the wheels have been super imposed off of another car. The offsets to fit a third gen are completely wrong in the picture. I know I went through the process having the wheels custom made for my 1984 Z28. The wheels in the picture have no dish to the the spokes are almost flush. The wheels on mine have a very deep dish to them. Just take a closer look at the wheels in the picture you will see what I am talking about.


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Mark, remember when I emailed you regarding your Fiskes after seeing your car in that Camaro book? Well, if you do, that is the 3rdgen Camaro from Popular Hot Rodding that I was refering to that also had FM5s. Those are Fiske FM5s on the car (according to the article at least.)

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I have the mag that did the article on this car, and its really an incredible car.

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oooo oooo oooo can i have a scan?
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Oh me too!
400 km/h?
Is that for REAL?

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Old 11-29-2001, 09:04 AM
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I wonder if he has the 85mph speedo in there?
Hahahaha

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by johnsjj2:
I like both Auto-X and Drag racing. Drag racing is more my passion, but this is due to ignorance to auto-x. I didn't know you mainly just wear out the tires and brakes. We don't have a lot of twisties around here as far as normal roads. That is why drag racing appeals more to me. Where I am its hard to pull up next to someone and try and race around corners.......because we have so few. If i get the chance I might just try auto-x, if they have that around here. Thanks for the education.
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Personally, I wouldn't race someone around corners on the street. There are way too many people that THINK they know how to drive, but if you've ever been to an autocross and watched these same people spin out and whack cones all day, you'd never race someone in anything but a straight line on the street.
Contact the SCCA and find out if they have an event in your area. It's worth it to drive a few hours to get to it in my opinion. I'm warnign you that it is realy ddictive though. I used to think drag racing was king, and then I autocrossed. After whipping through some turns, drag racing couldn't hold me anymore. I still like drag racing, but autocross is what I love most. One day I'll be able to build a car to road race and get in the 200 mph club.
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