Camaros4Life

Im not sure where the best place to post this would be but here it goes.

I brought the h4 conversion kit from prostreetlighting.com

Heres the direct link
http://www.prostreetlighting.com/pro...RSION-KIT.html

I installed the kit last week and haven't really had time to check and drive the car at night to see how much brighter they really are. So i went out with my bro and our 2 other friends on a cruise last night and i can barely see the road. the kit says it should increase the light by 50% but now that i installed them its worst then the stock bulbs from sylvainia.

they appear brighter but they are not projecting any light onto the street. Im not sure what i should do, if i should go with a brighter bulb or how i should adjust the bulb housings.

It also seems like they are dimmer a some points, im assuming a bad ground. Can anyone help me here, its a real disappointment that i downgraded instead of upgraded after spending close to $100 bucks

Thanks

SolarGoldRaptor

You have to switch two terminals for the H4 bulbs :

Al Hasse

That diagram is incorrect. All three wires need to be re-pinned, or rotated one spot over - clockwise looking at the back of the light.

Like this from the tech articles on the Home Page...



This is how I've done mine and they work perfect.

Al Hasse

Aside from re-pinning the connector, it would be a real good idea to upgrade your harness with a couple of relays like in this tech article. The H4 lights draw more current than the circuit breaker in your light switch can handle and your lights will intermittently turn off, especially on high beam.

https://www.thirdgen.org/headlightupgrade

Camaros4Life

i just got done repinning the wire harness and will be checking it tonight. i cant notice a difference in the daytime.

Camaros4Life

i have not noticed a difference. So im assuming the relay is the best way to go. Where would i purchase those relays? or is there another option

henryd3

iTrader: (128)

In the Technical articles section there is a writeup that outlines doing the wiring yourself and all that entails. Or I've seen a harness advertised on Summit Racing's site for a Matrix 01-133 h4 upgrade harness for $25.99. Or you can get a better harness through danielsternlighting.com if that's what you want. No personal experience with either, but just examples of what's out there. Have fun!

Camaros4Life

so basically by installing this kit i should get more constant power to each bulb and they will appear/project brighter and further?

henryd3

iTrader: (128)

Yep, might also keep from frying your headlight switch. Refer to the info in Al Hasse's post above, and click on the link to the headlight upgrade article we've been talking about That best explains the whole system . You have to supply the lights with enough power if you expect them to work, and these should help if you're not into building your own harness

Camaros4Life

Yeah because i allready burned out the headlight switch even before i upgraded the lights so i am worried that i will continue to happen. ill read through that link before i purchase anything.

thanks guys

riceburner247

Stupid question, but are your conversion housing installed correctly and not upside down?

Camaros4Life

No i am 100% sure they are right side up. The word "top" is embedded into the glass at one end so im sure that end goes up towards the hood.

I ordered the Harness and if worse comes to worse, im gonna switch over to the HID kits from ddmtuning.com

hopefully this harness with the relays work well

box_chevy

One quick thing, you may have to re-align the beams to the proper height. This can make a difference in how far you see.

Pillsbry10

iTrader: (1)

sounds like its just another set of crappy housings....doesnt matter what you do or adjust, they suck dont waste your money, i went back to stock so i could drive at night

Stephen

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Until you put real projectors in those housings, they are gonna be worse than even a stock headlight, much less the Silverstars (which I currently have).

Those housings & little lenses inside them are for show only, not for any actual functionality.

itsMikey

mine work fine...but im not driving on back country roads with no lighting i guess so mine do just dandy

gonna get some projectors soon just for the hell of it though.

mine are from DDM Tuning...

Jim85IROC

iTrader: (2)

Yup. I swapped to Autopal "euro" style low beam H4 housings and H1 high beams. The high beams are outstandign, but the low beams are horrendous.

henryd3

iTrader: (128)

Yeah, I've seen those Autopal lights and wondered about them. Are the housings any good or are they just cheaply made and that makes the lens quality so poor that they don't function well? Or light weight housings that are too prone to breaking or melting? What was it that was good about the high beams, and bad about the regular ones?

Jim85IROC

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The build quality of the autopal housings seems pretty nice. The glass lenses are nice and clear, the plastic backside isn't too bad, and the reflector doesn't look bad either. The only real complaint from a build perspective is the cheap rubber weather protectors they have.

As for light output, I don't know why the low beams are so bad. When I point the car at my garage door, the light pattern seems to be fairly good, but out on the road I can't see anything. On the other hand, the high beams seem to light up the road very, very well. Whether it's the high beam circuit from the H4s, or the H1 high beams, or both, I can't really say.

One thing that I did quickly discover though, is that the bulbs that come with the lights are trash. The H1s are 100 watt bulbs which resulted in damaging my light switch due to excessive current draw... the lights would start flashing on and off, and unfortunately it now STILL happens after swapping in a set of conventional 55 watt name brand H1s. One of those 100 watt jobs was deformed and cloudy when I removed it. The H4s were a more normal 55 watt bulb, but I replaced them hoping that it would cure the poor visibility issues, but it didn't seem to help.

Timmie

about the conversion kit.
I did mine ( inner + outer headlights )
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/post...04-post34.html




anyway, mine are switched by relays that I hung near the firewall.
the original wires where used the make the relays go. and I use new 2.5mm2 wires for the lights. 0 voltage drop on my headlights.
a lost thing I bould in was since I dont have foglights but I do have a switch.
when I put on the switch. I have 4 lowbeams or 4 highbeams. depending wich on is on.


but if you would place an extra switch on your dash somewhere. you could probably do the same.

take note I do noticed ( when I installed it all ) that when you put on highbeams, your foglights go out. and the 4 highbeams didnt work. I needed to rewire the relays for that. and didnt update this plan.
but if you would do it with a normal switch on your dash, this plan would work.



p.s. you can also see on the schematic that if your standing infront of the car, the ground wire of every lamp should be on the left. the higheam wire shoul be in the middle and the lowbeam wire shoul be on the right.
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/memb...s-belgium.html

by pressing an extra switch 4 lowbeams instead of 2 ( hella housings used ).


and if your headlights are alligned right, nobody of the oncoming traffic will notice it.

greatz from belgique

Stephen

iTrader: (12)

Easy to work around. I'm sure the Camaro wiring is virtually the same as my GTAs was. Just a relay to "fix".
Fog Lights regardless of Hi/Lo

Timmie

boh, you just had to rewire relay 2 and 3, but didnt want to make it any more difficult for the starter since it even looks he already has trouble wiring .
+ my problem is not that my fog lights go out ( since i dont have them )
but when you put on the highbeams, the power to from the foglight switch goes out.

now if you follow the diagrams you will see that when I put the extra lights on with the foglight switch. current wil go trough relay2, and trough relay 3 to the inner lowbeams.
if I put on the highbeams. it should only switch relay 3 so that the power goes to the highbeams.
but since the highbeam switch justs down the foglight power. relay 2 goes back to its first status,
and no power wil go to relay3.

anyway, I did a quick rewiring ( right wiring ) how it should be done with an extra switch installed on the dash.

Stephen

iTrader: (12)

Sorry...Wrong link!

Fog Lights regardless of Hi/Low

The Firebirds only use 1 relay. Takes 5 min & 1 ring terminal.

Timmie

with my schematic I can put the extra lights on and off whenever I want, AND it will pass inspections over here I know you can bypass that hassle easy, but when inspections over here check your lights and they see that you can put your fogs and highbeans on at the same time they got another reason to take your car of the road.

btw, if you look at my scheme I made it works like this.


lowbeams on = outer lights lowbeams are on ( others out )
highbeams switch on = inner hihbeams on ( others inclusive outer lowbeams out )
lowbeams + extra switch on = inner + outer lowbeams on
highbeam + extra switch on = inner + outer highbeams on
extra switch on = inner lowbeams on. ( depending how you wired it, only if your parklights are on )