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Old 06-13-2010, 10:52 PM
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any cars that may pop in a junkyard that i could rob HID's to fit in these?
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any cars that may pop in a junkyard that i could rob HID's to fit in these?
look for hondas or any japanese car with stickers
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look for hondas or any japanese car with stickers
Or most modern BMW/Mercedes/any car/etc...HIDs aren't just a r i c e thing....Its a modern car thing. Stickers have nothing to do with OEM HIDs.
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Or most modern BMW/Mercedes/any car/etc...HIDs aren't just a r i c e thing....Its a modern car thing. Stickers have nothing to do with OEM HIDs.
yeah but the HIDs on a german cars wont fit our cars. they are DR1 and DR2s. they are specially built for the german/japanese cars.

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yeah but the HIDs on a german cars wont fit our cars. they are DR1 and DR2s. they are specially built for the german/japanese cars.
Why would that be a problem, other than wiring & adapting?

I already know of at least 1 3rd gen Camaro already running DS2s & 2 'birds being worked on to be fit with DS2s, which are used in applications from BMW, Mercedes, Range Rover, Lamborghini and Audi.
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My projectors are D1S & i just recently built a set for a member with the same projectors, but with D2S lamps.D1S/D2S style are the best bang for the buck.

As for the JY most, if not all late model projectors are pulled by employees or early birds.Dont hold your breath on finding TSX/Valeo/Hella or any other popular projector.Try ebay or hidplanet.
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Why would that be a problem, other than wiring & adapting?

I already know of at least 1 3rd gen Camaro already running DS2s & 2 'birds being worked on to be fit with DS2s, which are used in applications from BMW, Mercedes, Range Rover, Lamborghini and Audi.
ok this is getting off topic

thats not what the 19Chevrolet84 asked for? I asummed he meant plug and play Hids not ones needing modding of the headlight harness
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Dont think he meant plug & play.He asked what car to look for at the JY.Any car you get projectors from, whether at the junkyard or not will not be P&P.

The cars to look at are BMW, Mercedes,Jag,Audi,Infinity,Lexus,Acura.Also vettes,cadillac STS/escalade.There's more, all late model.Like 04-up, but again good luck finding them at the JY.

Try to keep them under 3inch dia lense.
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ok this is getting off topic

thats not what the 19Chevrolet84 asked for? I asummed he meant plug and play Hids not ones needing modding of the headlight harness
I mean modding, as in a PLUG & PLAY wiring adapters.

EVERY HID retrofit will require "modding" whether it is a plug & play mod...Or a cut & splice mod. The only 100% plug in "HIDs" are just that.....FAKE HIDs.

If anyone wants to retrofit a TRUE HID into a sealed beam vehicle? It requires some sort of "mod". No way around that.
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I got my fleabay housing in today and already cut them open. The 3" projector fits, but I had to grind off a small bit of the metal lip of the projector lens housing. No biggie though.
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I mean modding, as in a PLUG & PLAY wiring adapters.

EVERY HID retrofit will require "modding" whether it is a plug & play mod...Or a cut & splice mod. The only 100% plug in "HIDs" are just that.....FAKE HIDs.

If anyone wants to retrofit a TRUE HID into a sealed beam vehicle? It requires some sort of "mod". No way around that.
now this is really getting off topic the guy was asking about what cars to get hids off of in a junkyard not what is the right to install HIDS

lets continue this in pm

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84 1LE thank you for that helpful information, hopefully i can rob a set pretty cheap and do the retrofit like you did.
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Your welcome.

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How much & what all is there? Just the housing & the E55?
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Its a Valeo projector, e55 is bi-xenon & too big.Compltete kit is $285 or just the housings/projectors is $195 (buy your own HIDs)

The HID kit i have is ddm 35w Raptor ballast,D2S 4500k or 5000k lamps,harness & D2S adapters.

Plus shipping or pick up if local.You will need to enlarge the hole in the bucket as i did, but no other cutting required

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So this is a Lo-Beam only setup? Not like the Hi/Low E55 you were working on for 'birds?

I live too far out of town to give up my High Beam headlights.
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FBs have hi/lo in one headlight, seperate on camaros.I dont see the point in rearranging the stock set-up.So FBs get bi-xenon, camaros dont.No need to give up hi beams either, still fully functional.

If someone wants HID hi beams.Then another HID kit is required for camaros.Siverstars work well in the hi beam, thats what i have.

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FBs have hi/lo in one headlight, seperate on camaros.I dont see the point in rearranging the stock set-up.So FBs get bi-xenon, camaros dont.Not need to give up hi beams either, still fully functional.

If someone wants HID hi beams.Then another HID kit is required for camaros, not my taste.Siverstars work well in the hi beam, thats what i have.
So these for Camaros? What size? We both know the82-90 Firebirds have a different size than t 91/92 'birds. I thought you had E55s in your Camaro, even though you still have 4 headlights.

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"So these? what size?" not understanding! Did you edit a pic or something?

Never tried E55 since they are bi-xenon.I have a set of Valeos that are too big at 3in(Vs 2.5 on my car).So i knew the E55 would be too big also.
My hi-beams function as original, just have a Osram(silverstar) lamp inplace.Never use them anymore though.

I know of a 2.5 bi-xenon projector that should work in both types of FB lamps, but its $150+ for the little buggers.Dont think many would buy my FB retrofit if i used them.Thats about double what i pay for the Valeos.

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"So these? what size?" not understanding! Did you edit a pic or something?.......
I meant the ones you advertised for sale here in this thread. They are for Camaros?
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Yeah, those are for camaros, still working on the FB set-up.Even if those would fit the later FBs.They are still single xenon, not bi xenon.
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I probably read over it... I'm notorious for doing so...but is that 275$ a ready to go set of lights?
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Yes, ready to go, plus shipping if you cant pick up.You will need to enlarge the hole in the bucket as i did, but no other cutting required.

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Yes, ready to go, plus shipping if you cant pick up.You will need to enlarge the hole in the bucket as i did, but no other cutting required.

Did a little upgrade on mine.So they stand out a bit from the rest.Sorry, halos & shrounds are not included with the retrofit.Gonna do the hi-beams too.
once again you did some radical work
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https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/sout...check-out.html heres some pics of the retro fit 841le did for me. How easy was it to install the halos? I was thinking of adding city lights to make the buckets glow
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Halos were easy, but i had to trim the shroud alot.Almost half the size now.You dont have the little hole for the city lights anymore.It was cut away for the projectors.

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What kind of bulb do these take?
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The retrofits i make use D2S, but my car has D1S lamps.

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Just bought his projectors. cant wait to get them!
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Shipped them this morning via fedex, enjoy.
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Very interested in a complete set. (the 4 headlights). Id love a price with and without halos. spikeiroc@hotmail.com. Thanks, and again, very cool craftmanship.
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There is no 4 headlight set.Only 2 (lo beams) for the complete kit.No plans for shrouds or halos either at the present time.My current set up is pushing $400 just for parts.

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Have you thought about using the Morimoto for Bi-xenon, and putting it as close to the glass as possible maybe quarter inch away from it? I would be really interested if you could make a set for me like that, as they would be going on a talon that I have.
Morimoto's only cost 135 for the set and use an H1 bulb. You probably already know all this but here's all it's specs.
Max Depth: 136mm (5.35" inches) Max Height: 70mm (2.75 inches) Max Width: 80mm (3.14 inches) Lens Diameter: 2.5 inches

If not who is the seller of the "projector" housings you're buying from? Ebay seller?

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Not for the camaros, but thats the exact same projector i wanna try retrofitting on the firebirds.The way i mount the Valeo, puts lenses at about 1/16 apart from one another.

I dont know what kind of headlamp talons use.So i cant say if i can make you a set.Plus unless the talon uses a single headlamp for both hi/lo beam.I dont really see the point in retrofitting a bi-xenon as opposed to a single xenon, but thats your choice.

At $135 plus though.Its not something Im gonna be doing anytime soon to see if they'll work for your talon.However if your willing to buy whatever headlamps you need for the talon.Plus those miromoto units.Ill be more than willing to give it a shot.You'll still have to pay for labor, of course.

I buy my "projectors" from ebay seller cyber-speed2008.Sorry i could'nt be of more help to you.
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Not for the camaros, but thats the exact same projector i wanna try retrofitting on the firebirds.The way i mount the Valeo, puts lenses at about 1/16 apart from one another.

I dont know what kind of headlamp talons use.So i cant say if i can make you a set.Plus unless the talon uses a single headlamp for both hi/lo beam.I dont really see the point in retrofitting a bi-xenon as opposed to a single xenon, but thats your choice.

At $135 plus though.Its not something Im gonna be doing anytime soon to see if they'll work for your talon.However if your willing to buy whatever headlamps you need for the talon.Plus those miromoto units.Ill be more than willing to give it a shot.You'll still have to pay for labor, of course.

I buy my "projectors" from ebay seller cyber-speed2008.Sorry i could'nt be of more help to you.
The generation of the Talon I'm talking about getting it done for are the 90-91. It uses the dual filament sealed from factory but a lot of people switch over to H4 housings. The Talons, Eclipse, and Lazers for those years use the same 4x6 housings.
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Well if your willling to make the investment in parts.Ill do the work.Should find out how much room you have before buying those projectors.
Almost done with my little upgrade.

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Well if your willling to make the investment in parts.Ill do the work.Should find out how much room you have before buying those projectors.
Alomost done with my little upgrade.
Just looked behind them. I should have enough clearance, if not I could cut away at it back there since it's not structural there. It'll be a couple of weeks to come up with the funding since I have some stuff to fix on the car, but I will be willing to. How much would you charge for the labor?
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Heres some pics so far
Almost completely installed
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Not a bad cutoff.How far from the wall?What HID kit/harness you using?
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The cut off is one light with the car parked maybe 15 20 feet back with ebay hid kit. i forgot what site i got my harness though
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Sorry to be a thread necro, but do you have any shots of how you got the halos in?
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No, i dont, sorry.
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No, i dont, sorry.
No worries. Would you mind explaining how you did? I'd like to copy your set-up for my Camaro, I like how it looks, and the increase in visibility is awesome.
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They're held on with double sided tape.
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Ah, so just stick the tape to the back of the halo, and stick it around the projector. Thanks a lot!
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Yep, thats it.
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Thanks for cleaning it up man.


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