I need some help. Id like to know what theese came off of.

 

oh god i have seen them before but where :/

 

Lol well if you figure out or anyone else that would be super. I like the wheels i just want to see if i can get some in better shape... but im having a hard time finding the vechile they belong to.

 

What is on the center caps?

 

maybe 70s firebirds ? im 95 % sure there pontiac rims off something

http://i4.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/b4/cb/1321_1.JPG

 

Nothing center caps are just spheres or rounded or what ever.

 

looks kinda like they came off a pontiac le mans check a 1973

 

They look like Pontiac "Rally II" wheels to me! They came on almost everything from the late 60's up through the 70's From GTOs to Bonnevilles. IIRC they also had a variation that came stock on our Thirdgens. I seem to remember seeing a Pontiac brochure picture from '85 or so with those wheels. They are nice looking wheels when reconditioned!

-Paul

Edit: This is what Rally II's look like in their original (GTO/Early Firebird vintage) form:

 

Rally wheel was the first thing I thought of.

 

May also be a late second gen camaro.

 

Know a place to get them new like that one??

 

As Quadgoat noted those are Pontiac Rallye ll wheels used from '67 up on every Pontiac produced(even the T1000 had a version I believe).And I've seen pictures of 3rd Gens with them in brochures but haven't found one to post yet.Pontiac was phasing out the Rally 1 wheel that was being used on the GTO and Tempest among others.Also they came in both 14" & 15".And either with the PMD center cap or with the Pontiac arrow in a polished and brushed finish.And some years trim rings were standard and some years they were not(depending on the model).

Online170 the wheel you have pictured was a Z28 only item that used a thinner outer trim ring than the Rally ll.That wheel was used from '70-1/2 on the Camaro(and it had a similar version used on the Chevelle).

Coker Tire,Classic IndustriesYear One among others sell the reproduction wheels,trim rings and center caps.You should be able to find them in a J-yard as stated they were optional on every RWD Pontiac.Just check the back for the size(15X7 was the largest factory made -but you can buy larger aftermarket I believe).As you can tell the Cragar SS was the inspiration for the wheel style.

 

My neighbor (big 2nd gen TA enthusiast) told me the casting number on the rim would tell what they were off of but I couldn't find any info with it...but they all seem to be the same rim as someone already said

Did you get the 307 running right?

 

Well when i got it home i rolled it off the trailer. So it sat in the yard.. Then i worked on it and got it running long enough to go from my yard to the garage. Pulled the engine and tranny and cleaned everything from inside and sold it to a guy in the thumb who plans on building i belive a drag car out of it.

 

I'm almost positive they are from a mid 80's base firebirds .I've seen them on them before.

 

..or maybe from a '74 formula or

 

yes !
im sure those were the base wheels too !

 

For sure not a `73 Pontiac Le Mans or Tempest, I had both new and that wheel was not around then, both models had a transaxle.
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Sorry to double post, I was 10 years off. I meant to say 1963, not 1973.

 

My friend had them on his 86 GP. That would mean they should be a direct fit without adapters.

They are called Rally II wheels.

Pics:
http://www.pontiacserver.com/gph3_9.html

 

I found a set of those on a early '82 - '84 Firebird during a junkyard raid, but I dunno if they were stock. My '83 Grand Prix LJ had a set of those Rallye II's, the 15" versions, & they had a Pontiac Arrowhead on the center cap. I'm positive they came stock on that car. I bought it off an older gentleman for $800 who bought it new. He was having a hard time seeing & side-swiped the pass-side door against something. It was an awesome car, but she had a serious frame rail rotting issue and the typical G.P. doorskin cracking problem. I parted her out 8 months later, but I kept the Factory tachometer & guage cluster.