Jay87Z

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I first saw this hood here a few years ago. I've been searching the board for more into on it lately. I found some posts that said Kandied91Z was working on the hood, and even something that looked like ASCD was.

Did anything ever come of this?

85maroz28

Would also like to know!

92RS(real slow)

Kandied91z

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yes we just finished it.... just have to get it shipped out to the company for reproduction so hopefully it will be for sale by the end of summer. mine should be in paint in the next month or as soon as i have time. i was a bit skeptical working on it but it looks amazing on the car.

Stevo

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cool, fiberglass or carbon fiber molds? Any idea on pricing yet?

92RS(real slow)

sweet kanided91z more info please

BADNBLK

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That is really cool to know that it will be made here!! Sign me up for one in fiberglass... Really Jeff, PM when you have stuff ready to go!!

Jay87Z

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Thats awesome man. Really good to hear. I'll definately be buying one!

InfernalVortex

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Sweeet! I hope they make a version that has a little more hood clearance, though, but I guess that's a lot to ask.

I wish there was an easier to way to raise the area behind the center vent...

Something like this



Maybe more like the C5R hood...




Actually, now that I look at hte original picture again... looks like they DID raise the hood a little bit in the center... interesting.

5678TA

no love for the birds?????

HPE

Jeff, I am definatrely interested in buying one also. I am holding off painting the car till I find something I like or if another 6 months goes by I am just getting a fiberglass completely stock flat hood if nothing else by then.Dean

swisscheese

this will be one of the nicest hoods on the market!

fenton06

lets hope they dont f*ck up the hood in transit...

Jay87Z

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And you gotta give us some pics man

noahTHEpurdy

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I wouldn't want that on my 'Bird.

85maroz28

Jeff is it just like the one pictured above? Does it have the side vents? Would love to see a prototype pic!

Ozz1967

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Put a T.A. Power Bulge in the middle of the hood instead of the main vent...now that would be an interesting design for the birds. You would still have the cowl induction but also the heat extraction. Hmm...

5678TA

not that exact hood but anything other then a plain cowl, ram air hood or power bulge.. the aftermarket is mainly camaros and they have a huge selection.. so just wondering if they make something for birds..

and trust me, i know.. i wouldnt want that hood on my bird..



Ozz1967, a cowl is a heat extractor.. air will come out the openning on the back and extract heat..

Ozz1967

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A true cowl hood "pulls" air into the intake of the car...it does not let air out.

Some of the after market hoods or a cowl system that's not hooked up properly might act as a "heat extractor".

5678TA

i see said the blind man.. barely see any true cowls i guess..

Ozz1967

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/shrug

Whatever floats your boat. Not worth arguing about or hijacking this thread anymore than we have.

VenomX-87

Not if it is sealed to the air cleaner, 70% of them aint tho that is why when i get a cowl im getting it fitted to my 85 hood and cut a hole for the aircleaner that way i still got the 2 stock heat extractors on either side of the cowl.

Ozz1967

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Bingo...

5678TA

ok i get it..

most of the cowls i see are just the hood.. no filter sealing stuff.. no one really cares here on maui.. its mostly used for filter clearance..

Blue1989RS

Pics of that car can be found at http://www.grace-co.co.jp/index.html

I'd like to have one also.

HPE

For those of you who do not understand what you are looking at, the whole purpoe of that hood 'vent' is to maintain a low pressure zone under the car. It is not a heat extractor even though it does flow the radiator heat up and out, it does not affect engine heat extraction (header heat,etc).
The air flow into our radiators is from up undetr he front of these cars- NOT THROUGH THE GRILLE- this is why GM designed the plastic deflector air dam up underneath these cars so any air coming under the nose is what is directed up into the front of the radiator- However, on a stock hood vcar, once that air passes through the radiator, it then flows back down out of the front engine bay and under the vehicle causing a high pressure zone and thus lifts the vehicle aerodynamically. Hood vents of this nature route air coming in under the nose up into the radiator and allows it to pass freely out the hood top thus creating downforce and less air drag under the car as well as sucking the car down better at speed with a lower pressure zone than the high pressure zone without it.
Its not all about looks, its about function.

BADNBLK

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I found a couple more pics of the hood, that I had not seen before!

noahTHEpurdy

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Friends don't let friends r i c e their third-gen.

InfernalVortex

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Race car inspired styling is always cool as long as the car is as quick as it looks.

Jay87Z

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You must have some shady friends then... seeing as you have a cowl induction hood on a near stock V6 Firebird.. Just messing with ya man Please don't crap on my thread, I don't want it locked as I really want information about this hood.

This hood is more functional than 90% of the hoods you see on this site. All of those cowl induction, SS, "ram air", etc hoods are nothing but looking cool. The only one decent for performacne is the ram air hoods that have the appropriate airbox. The rest are merely ornaments.

Like HPE described, this hood is very functional. Most people use their F-bodies for drag racing, so no they wouldn't need a hood like this. I'm setting mine up for road racing (time trials), so this hood will be great for me. I'd love to have the spoiler on the car I posted. If you notice, its not the stock wing... it has a profile that creates downforce. Its all about functional parts, not looking cool.

Just curious, whats rice about this hood? The Ford GT, Ultima GTR, Corvette C5R and C6R, and countless other bad *** cars, all have a hood of this design. Surely you don't think those cars are rice.

5678TA

AMEN.. if you got a HUGE wing, you better damn well need that huge thing..

soultron

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I've wanted one of these for my firebird too, but no dice... and no money.
Lighter weight, cooler under hood temps, aerodynamics and neat looks. Hopefully though at least 2 can be accomplished with this - - -


Seriously, you camaro guys get all the cool stuff.

AmorgetRS

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Nobody asked for opinions, so please don't get this thread locked with yours.

mike_c

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Maybe someone could just photochop one onto a bird? Now that's something I'd like to see.

Kandied91z

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as far as i know fiberglass is what it will be at this point if cost is to be relative. carbon fiber for mine cost me just over $1000 without shipping. CF has gone up alot in pricing in the last year alone.

Kandied91z

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demand isn't there... there aren't enough people modifying birds let alone willing to spend the money to have a more limited style piece on their car. these hoods are 1/2 the price that some are starting out with their cars alone so it just isn't feasible. you could have a one off built but your looking around 1200 plus without paint to find a shop that will do it for you.

Kandied91z

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well my part is pretty much done.. when i have more info i will post it up. i pretty much replied to this thread just to let people know that things are well underway but i don't have much i can share at this moment but as soon as we do it will all be up.


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pretty much identical.

92RS(real slow)

I cant wait I've always loved this hood, and fibergalss would be just fine

Jay87Z

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Thanks for the update Kandied. I appreciate your efforts and look forward to seeing the hood!

Stevo

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ditto. thanks kandied.

Ive been holding out for a hood, i want fiberglass but i just love the styling of the 91-92 z28 hood to get rid of it for weight savings only.

This is a great looking hood with plenty of benefits.

fbodyguy86

how would this work with TPI on a camaro with the air intake right there
thanks

Jay87Z

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Heres a pic of the intake setup on that blue Camaro in my original post. I'd say a stock TPI intake should fit just fine. I don't quite get this setup, maybe if I saw the underside of the hood it would make more sense.

http://www.grace-co.co.jp/imgview/005.jpg

My main concern with this hood is if it will dump water all over my optispark in the rain..hmmm.

InfernalVortex

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That IS odd... but Iw as messing with the numbers of the pictures... and I found these.








For some reason I guess he's trying to isolate air from each of his radiators.... ?

VenomX-87

Hell that looks like a **** load of work!

Blue1989RS

I really like that car. They did some interesting stuff to it. I've got all those pictures saved to my computer. The NACA ducts on the bottom feed air into the calipers/rotors.

Also look into the supports from the rad supports. Its reinforced and tied back into the k-member and a-arms. Thats my favorite part of it. Plus it has extended king pins to lower it and maintain a better roll center.

Rain on the opti-spark, that would suck. What do they typically do to prevent the engine from getting soaked? I figure it wouldn't really matter, but some components may not like it.

5678TA

i hear you.. when i first got my TA just a mere 4 years ago, i couldnt find coilovers or tubular a-arms for 3rd gens.. hell, they still made the factory ground effects for 82-84 back then and now they dont because of the low demand.. the market is only now starting to open up on these cars.. its only a matter of time before they start making ____ ____ ____'s.. nevermind, i'll keep that one to myself so i can be the first.. lol

Jay87Z

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I think he is mainly trying to control the flow of air under the car. It looks like he is either directing it to the radiator (and then out of the hood) or to the brake ducts. Like HPE said, this will maintain a low pressure zone under the hood, increasing downforce on the front wheels. Any air not used to cool the radiator or brakes will just continue right on under the car. The intake is still a bit of a mystery.

There is alot of pictures of that car on that site. Its a slick piece of work. Alot of guys want to call that car a ***** Camaro, but everything done to it serves a purpose on a road course.

InfernalVortex

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But why does he have what appears to be 3 radiators?

fbodyguy86

but how will it extract heat on a TPI car cause it would have to come down behind the radiator and the air intake for the TPI runs right axcross the top of where the extractor would have to go to be functional

Blue1989RS

I don't understand the confusion.

On the Grace car, the radiator fresh air draw comes from under the nose like stock, it just has ducting. The radiator exhaust air goes out the top of the hood instead of under the car. The engine air draw is the dual snorkle but instead of drawing from in front of the radiator it draws through the foglight holes on either side of the license plate mount. See my previous post for a link to the pics.